I wanted to know why they had the time to answer softball questions but couldn’t be bothered to address the 100+ thieves who wanted to know why they were killing S/D instead of just “fixing” it.
Tl;Dr: For the most part devs do what they want to, your opinion as a player doesn’t really matter. If you ask them why, they’ll tell you to kitten off in a forum friendly manner.
This.
Also.
They nerf us, so we’re angry.
We’re angry, so they nerf us.
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
I’ve posted a topic with nearly every patch. I’ve posted them in the thief forums and the bug report forums; other individuals have posted them in the PvP forums (which were quickly removed for some reason, even though this ‘bug’ highly impacts PvP)
It’s not a complicated topic, it doesn’t take much time or attention; it’s all laid out right in the title. Withdraw is still missing the 10% base healing increase it supposedly “got” in the June 23rd patch.
Please, fix it.
If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
I’ll also be sure to bump this as well. It’s ridiculous, it’s not like we want a 30% increase, all we want is a heal to heal for the 10% they said they would make it do.
Oh cool, moderators merged my topics…for some reason.
Perhaps I was unclear. This post is asking why Withdraw was still missing 10% a few weeks ago.
The post you closed down to merge into this one was asking why Withdraw was still missing 10% after yet another patch – 2 patches in fact, since I originally created this topic.
If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
The devs wanted to just nerf the withdrawl CD without adding anything to it. They purposefully added the heal increased by 10% part so that people won’t think the nerf is so bad, but they are never going to give that 10%.
The devs wanted to just nerf the withdrawl CD without adding anything to it. They purposefully added the heal increased by 10% part so that people won’t think the nerf is so bad, but they are never going to give that 10%.
We deserve to be slapped in the face hard since we’re still playing this kitteng game afterall
Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
Yeah, things like this are completely indefensible. Karl should have long ago addressed this either by saying “it’s happening here’s an ETA” or “it’s not happening here’s why”.
Professionalism.
This thread needs to stay alive until it’s addressed one way or another.
KEEP IT ALIVE! Repost this in two days to keep it alive!
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Plot Twist: Elder Dragons are massive robots created by the Black Lion Trading Company.
Think of the money they make off weapons and armor…
This will never gonna happen. It is clear from the start that the intention was to nerf Withdraw with no compensation.
Besides, nobody uses it anymore ever since Channeled Vigor, right? They really have no reason to care. (sarc)
Just looking at the previous patch and comparing the amounts of bug fixes to all professions, you can really tell where they have their attention to. It’s really hard to believe that the Thief only had 2 lingering bugs since release.
I’m sure that making Disabling Shot to “always move you directly away from your target” requires more development time than simply fixing the healing numbers on Withdraw.
This is one of those sandwiches, making Withdraw look bad so that Channeled Vigor looks good. Which is happening to me and switched to CV because Withdraw is just a bad pick that when both are traited, there’s only 1s difference on CD but CV heals for way more. If they fix Withdraw, I’m definitely switching back to it.
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Maybe they promised Withdraw 10% buff so they could say they’d do it eventually, but really it was just a way to nerf Thief without Thief knowing? Nerfception >.>
Maybe they promised Withdraw 10% buff so they could say they’d do it eventually, but really it was just a way to nerf Thief without Thief knowing? Nerfception >.>
What if they nerfed Withdraw 10% and then buffed it 10%? Like how Walmart raises their prices only to put them on “sale”.
It is called “rolled back” for that reason. It’s just a rolled back to the original price.
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So I can’t login to check, but it’s not in the patch notes: Can anyone verify for me that withdraw is still missing 10% so I can go make yet another post in the bug forums?
If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
So I can’t login to check, but it’s not in the patch notes: Can anyone verify for me that withdraw is still missing 10% so I can go make yet another post in the bug forums?
Because that Steal which has been working fine for 3 years REALLY needed a stealth nerf.
^This.
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I’m noticing ANet has an issue with keeping up with their patch notes.
-Patch notes outlined a 10% increase to Withdraw at the expense of an increased cooldown. The cooldown went up, but the healing did not.
-Activating Steal without a target is no longer a thing as of the most recent patch, but is not outlined in the patch notes.
“Withdraw: This ability is now a trick. Increased the recharge of this ability from 15 to 18. Healing (both base and healing power) coefficients have been increased by 10%.”
- Patch notes: 6/23/2015
I’m currently not impressed with this practice, ANet. Either don’t increase the Healing and let the community know you’ve changed your mind, or hurry up and implement something that was supposed to be implemented 4+ months ago.
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
I would actually. it’s a free 1.5 dodge return if you’re low on endurance, or a 7-8k heal if you’re not.
It’s no doubt it’s a great source of heal, but I can’t dodge out of immob unless I also spec Dash or lucky enough to trigger EA.
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Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.
I would actually. it’s a free 1.5 dodge return if you’re low on endurance, or a 7-8k heal if you’re not.
It’s no doubt it’s a great source of heal, but I can’t dodge out of immob unless I also spec Dash or lucky enough to trigger EA.
This mostly.
I agree that its an outstanding heal, but it can be interrupted and put on full cooldown which, paired with the thief’s innately low health pool, is pretty catastrophic in some situations.
If withdraw healed any more I’d run it.
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
I was just thinking recently how cool it’d be if Withdraw was stronger. It’s the least they could do when it doesn’t even function the way dodge does, yet revolves around being a dodge. 10% would be pretty neat if nothing else.
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http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.
http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.
