Guild Wars 2

Sagat.3285:

Sigh it will/should be like a rifle spear, a bayonet not a freaking sniper.

Wtf is a rifle spear?

Don’t say “it should be X thing” without mentioning your reasons why.

Ephemiel.5694:

Sagat.3285:

Sigh it will/should be like a rifle spear, a bayonet not a freaking sniper.

Wtf is a rifle spear?

Don’t say “it should be X thing” without mentioning your reasons why.

As far as anyone’s concerned, he might say absolutely anything, it’s not likely to change the currents of time. And besides, even if it carried a reason, it would be his reason. The same way it would be your reason:

Ephemiel.5694:

It’s likely to be the rifle and the spec have something to do with assassination.

You want to be a sniper that kills things, alright, but it’s definitely not worth trampling over the serious and less serious suggestions left by other people that are against your wishes, even if they’re just as cringe-worthy.

Tuebor.3864:

What about axe? Either offhand or mainhand…

Everyone forgot that axe existed.

Ephemiel.5694:

Sagat.3285:

Sigh it will/should be like a rifle spear, a bayonet not a freaking sniper.

Wtf is a rifle spear?

Don’t say “it should be X thing” without mentioning your reasons why.

While more than one class can fill a similar role they are not similar in action a sniper is somewhat a mix of war rifle with ranger Hunter’s Shot that’s not innovative enough. A rifle spear is just like it sounds or that minus shield you could call it a gunlance like in Monster Hunter but it’s just a more lighter spear like version of a bayonet either would be fine.

Sagat.3285:

Ephemiel.5694:

Sagat.3285:

Sigh it will/should be like a rifle spear, a bayonet not a freaking sniper.

Wtf is a rifle spear?

Don’t say “it should be X thing” without mentioning your reasons why.

While more than one class can fill a similar role they are not similar in action a sniper is somewhat a mix of war rifle with ranger Hunter’s Shot that’s not innovative enough. A rifle spear is just like it sounds or that minus shield you could call it a gunlance like in Monster Hunter but it’s just a more lighter spear like version of a bayonet either would be fine.

The playstyle rifle will bring judging by the way the OP designed those rifle skills will most likely be a slow-paced calculated plinking vs the fast-paced in-your-face combat. The bayonet will not do much.

yolo swaggins.2570:

The playstyle rifle will bring judging by the way the OP designed those rifle skills will most likely be a slow-paced calculated plinking vs the fast-paced in-your-face combat. The bayonet will not do much.

This was pretty much my thought too. I first liked the idea of a melee/skirmisher rifle, but it doesn’t really bring another play style to thief. It’s not stopping melee rifle from possibly happening. Just look at chronomancer. However, I’d like to see this sniper play style make it. Only non-magic ranged class I ever enjoyed was a sniper on SWtoR.

One reason I prefer a single hand weapon to Rifle is that it would change all exisiting one hand weapon types due to Dual wield.

If the weapon added a two hand weapon we got 5 new attack slots.

If it just a main or off hand we get that same 5 but three of them new dual wields.

If it both a main and off hand then 6 new dual wields and 4 others. I kind of like those dual wields and I lean towards another melee weapon rather then ranged as a personal choice. Like others I play the thief because I be loving the mobility and movement in combat and that just does not jibe with the sniper at range. Unless they do something magical with it, a rifle at range just does not fit well with the bulk of our utility skills. Outside venoms or using Signets in a passive manner what good would the rest be?

I think the thieves are getting rifle but if you think about it, how would Anet change the stealing mechanic? Like other proffessions they tweak their class mechanics so it will change their playstyle. I say the elite spec for the thief will be “doppleganger”. It doesn’t just steal a skill but will copy the target’s skill bar for a period of time. What do you guys think?

@Akimoto: Would be a bit awkward copying the skill bar of everything in pve. Also skills could be wrong for the thief’s build (not that it’s really a reason against it). My biggest reason for thinking the mechanic would change differently is due to there being an option that matches a ranged thief much better. Turning steal into a ground targeted shadow step would be perfect if attacking at range, be it sniping or skirmishing, is the class focus.

On the other hand if thief got a focus or scepter instead of rifle, doppelgänger skill mechanic makes a lot of sense. Magic thief steals opponent’s essence.

Wow! Magic steal thief sounds right with either a focus or a scepter. I like your idea

Akimoto.6172:

Wow! Magic steal thief sounds right with either a focus or a scepter. I like your idea

That was the point. Thieves manipulate shadows to their advantage for deceptive results, why not strengten that aspect with a focus? No compatibility problems with most of traits, playstyles and core mechanics and it remains interesting as a specialization nonetheless. Much better than a plea to anet to take down targets at 1200 range or to face Warriors toe to toe.

The only actual reason Thief is most likely getting Rifle is cuz they may of decided that and put it in the trailer. You’re overcomplicating it. o.O Any weapon works with any class to make new playstyles and could be added eventually depending on how fast they work.