mesmer vs thief after the crit damage patch

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Posted by: caveman.5840

caveman.5840

i am a s/d +sb thief
i don’t know how hard this damage nerf will hit my thief .
i mean there is all ready some wars guards else and mesmers any class but ranger that if they r played right they can put a real hurting on your thief with out u being able to do enough damage !
and i have plenty zerk gear
should i just finish lvling my 55 mesmer before the the crit damage patch?
all i can think is after this is my thief will be a joke compared to condition builds !

and i just like mesmer because it is the next closest tricky style like thief

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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

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Idk the full patch notes, let alone even a sizable fraction of them but I keep hearing rumors that Mesmer is getting some hefty nerfs. Not sure if its pvp/wvw/pve specific or if its even true but its passed my eyes enough to raise suspicion. I’d wait till the balance changes are officially released before making any long term class change.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

they are nerfing clone generation on dodge… i wouldn’t lv mes tbh

as far as thieves go, i guess we either will have to remake our gear or join the condi train…

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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

NinjaEd.3946

they are nerfing clone generation on dodge… i wouldn’t lv mes tbh

as far as thieves go, i guess we either will have to remake our gear or join the condi train…

For a patch that’s been pushed back to march, I’m sure that’s not all.

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Posted by: caveman.5840

caveman.5840

:S lol right after i finish lvling my armor weapon and huntsman crafting and got ascend in all of them .
idk but with a drop in damage some thing to help compensate to help survive would be nice . wish they would add back the stun breaker on the sword . or some other kind of survival .
because as of now damage is the only way i can survive and i am thinking a -10% decrease will really hurt

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

you know how i feel? i have full ascended armor set and bunch of ascended weps + trinkets…all will be scrapped after crit change… GG anet

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

Who knows, maybe they’ll tweak some damage here and there.

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

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Posted by: Iavra.8510

Iavra.8510

As a mesmer, i’m actually considering switching to my thief after the patch. I’d like to play S/P but i’ll first wait how the change to Pistol Whip will turn out.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

yeaaaah that hard to catch was an amazing change yo….

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

quite the contrary. we should talk and express our opinions and desires as they usually switch many things or tweek last minute due to unrest or outcries of the masses. its very common and even said so in one of their livestreams.

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Posted by: Zero Day.2594

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We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

yeaaaah that hard to catch was an amazing change yo….

;) I hear there will be more good things for the thief to come…
More improvements on hard to catch!

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

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We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

yeaaaah that hard to catch was an amazing change yo….

;) I hear there will be more good things for the thief to come…
More improvements on hard to catch!

lol. just another reason we know anet doesnt like or play thief. they really think that its usable/good now.wow. stay tuned folks.

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Posted by: Hype.8032

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Thief will be fine stop worrying…

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Posted by: style.6173

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Mesmer is the best 1v1 class. Mesmer should always beat a thief unless the thief is really good or the mesmer is really bad.

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

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We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

quite the contrary. we should talk and express our opinions and desires as they usually switch many things or tweek last minute due to unrest or outcries of the masses. its very common and even said so in one of their livestreams.

Like it changed their decisions on the last patch? If I recall correctly, the only things they changed their minds on after the preview was vigorous recovery (cause a straight up 50% nerf was huge, so they changed that to a 35%+ nerf) and not moving flanking strikes up a tier (because there was literally nothing good to switch it with except maybe bountiful theft). Our input and arguments were largely ignored and the final patch notes resembled the preview almost verbatim.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

We will have to wait to see the full extent of the upcoming changes before we break out into a QQ fest. Apparently Thieves can expect a range of QoL improvements (fix for Last Refuge).

Until then we better zip it.

quite the contrary. we should talk and express our opinions and desires as they usually switch many things or tweek last minute due to unrest or outcries of the masses. its very common and even said so in one of their livestreams.

Like it changed their decisions on the last patch? If I recall correctly, the only things they changed their minds on after the preview was vigorous recovery (cause a straight up 50% nerf was huge, so they changed that to a 35%+ nerf) and not moving flanking strikes up a tier (because there was literally nothing good to switch it with except maybe bountiful theft). Our input and arguments were largely ignored and the final patch notes resembled the preview almost verbatim.

big ones are usually set in stone. many small changes are made last minute and some due to public outcry.

“largely ignored” you said. yes they are. but something is better than nothing. trying is better than quitting. atleast until anet pushes us over.

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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

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I already feel pushed over. They just play warriors and make pve content meant for them. It’s no wonder I can walk into Arah after 8+ month break from there and never die let alone get low. Warrior is easy mode in pve, which seems to be their primary focus in updates and even then most people are unsatisfied.

They really should have a Q and A with known thief players or just general questions in a forum. They call us “dirty thieves”, maybe they feel so bad for making us dung that they don’t want to touch us. A little exaggerated but they truly don’t care about us. Since release I have seen very few attempts to rework thief and even then those things get undone because it gets too much attention from Q.Q’ers. I’m shocked we have retained our 35 second steal cool down for this long.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

get ready for another thief nerf guys and then some sort of MASSSIIIVE buff to last refuge proc chance

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Posted by: hihey.1075

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Mesmer is the best 1v1 class. Mesmer should always beat a thief unless the thief is really good or the mesmer is really bad.

Actually, unless the mesmer is running PU, a Mesmer should always lose to a Thief.

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Posted by: Iavra.8510

Iavra.8510

Shatter has a decent chance of beating a thief when running Mirror Images and traiting Blade Training, but it’s still one of the hardest matchups.

/edit: That is, if the thief is power specced. P/D condi is basically impossible.