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Posted by: Rentapest.6503

Rentapest.6503

I’m sick to death of these OP Warrior’s in WvW!

They’re immune to CC because of an OP trait that grants them instant stability every time you use a CC on them. Then on top of that they have two, yes TWO, instant-cast utility skills that are stun-breakers AND grant stability.

On top of all this, they have the largest health pool in the game, heavy armor and insane damage output.

So I’m trying to shoot a Warrior with my Ranger, I lose 40% my HP just from his OP retalliation that has 100% up-time, then he just walks over and 1hits me with ANY one of his melee skills. IF I somehow miraculously get out of their 1million stun skills with a stun breaker, because none of mine are instant-cast stability (like OP warrior), I’m stunned again by their next stun.

Why don’t I just stand there are bend over? That’s basically what the game wants me to do!

You need to BALANCE this stuff.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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Lol, are you serious? That auto stability is on a 90s cooldown and the only other insta-cast stun breaker doesn’t grant stability, procs when damage drops below 25% (not on cc) and is on a 60s cooldown.

Also, if you managed to get a full rapid fire off, not only did you do way more damage to him than his retal, you should have more than closed the gap in health pool. Also, that retal isn’t 100% up either, it’s 33.3%

If you’re staying in melee on your lb with a hammer(?) warrior, you’re doing something very wrong

Also, are you sure he didn’t just reflect your rapid fire? I do that to pew pew rangers all the time and it would account for the damage better than retal. It’s amazing how many just stand there and eat it instead of cancelling the skill.

I almost wish the traited block came with a “Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!” audio.

In all seriousness though, you have a lot of tools to deal with what you’ve described. Feel free to pm me in game and I’ll show you a few of them.

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Posted by: RJMazz.6798

RJMazz.6798

If instead of learning how to play you’re just gonna cry for nurfs might as well actually bend over. It goes in easier that way and ends faster.

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Posted by: darkaheart.4265

darkaheart.4265

dude what they need to do is balance that ridiculous rapid fire. every pew pew ranger just wants to be 1200 units away, press that skill 2 key on their longbow and have a automatic win. try playing warrior vs a experience ranger, come back and tells us how that went because it sounds like you havent played this class yet

and make sure they use rapid fire on you lmao

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Posted by: Hoaxintelligence.4628

Hoaxintelligence.4628

They’re immune to CC
retalliation that has 100% up-time
1million stun skills

Elite specialisation confirmed :O ?

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

His post history suggests he’s just distraught about not being able to do what he thinks he ought to with his ranger. A number of people in the ranger subforum have already suggested he’s got a l2p issue.

My offer still stands to show him how to fight warriors in wvw though. He should at least recognize the enormous advantage he has in an open field fight. But, yeah, if he’s a poor player and a competent melee warrior closes the gap, he’s gonna need his pet to help him retrieve his longbow from his rectum.

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Posted by: Hoaxintelligence.4628

Hoaxintelligence.4628

@ Rentapest
I would take the offer If I was you.
knowledge is the key

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Posted by: darkaheart.4265

darkaheart.4265

full background check by Choppy lol

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Lol, it was just one of those posts that walked the line of “genuinely frustrated player” and “classic troll baiting out the class defenders”. Enquiring minds had to know!

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Posted by: Dand.8231

Dand.8231

Whoa, lotsa misinformation in this post, let me try and break it down for you:

They’re immune to CC because of an OP trait that grants them instant stability every time you use a CC on them.

I assume you mean Last Stand. It does in fact give you 10s of stability on CC, with a 90s cooldown. This works out to a 11% uptime.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Stand

Then on top of that they have two, yes TWO, instant-cast utility skills that are stun-breakers AND grant stability.

I assume you mean Doly sig, and Balanced stance. Yes, they are powerful skills, providing strong sources of stability. However without them, Warriors tend to get CC’d to death, due to the fact that they are a melee reliant class.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Balanced_Stance
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dolyak_Signet

Ranger is ranged, but still has a few decent stability options as well. In fact, Signet of the Wild is extremely similar to Dolyak. It provides the same stability as Dolyak, but it also grants a 25% damage boost, and a 50% movement speed boost. On the same 60s cooldown as Dolyak. The Wild healing is probably slightly more potent than the Dolyak Toughness too, but thats likely too negligible to be calculated in. And while Wild is lacking the insta cast and stun break function, the dps/move boost are powerful in their own right. I’d say signet of Dolyak vs Wild is actually pretty darn balanced.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_the_Wild

Rangers also get Strength of the Pack (formerly rampage as one) which is 10s of stability (pulsing stab no less) on a 60 second cd. That gives it a 17% stability uptime.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Strength_of_the_pack!%22

On top of all this, they have the largest health pool in the game, heavy armor and insane damage output.

It’s true, Warriors do have a high healthpool. This is related to being a melee class with low active damage mitigation (literally 0 access to protection).

Heavy vs Medium armor is not as big a deal as you think. The difference between a Warrior wearing Soldiers gear and a Ranger wearing Soldiers gear is only roughly a 5% difference in damage reduction. I’ve mathed this out before but im too lazy to link ATM.

So I’m trying to shoot a Warrior with my Ranger, I lose 40% my HP just from his OP retalliation that has 100% up-time, then he just walks over and 1hits me with ANY one of his melee skills. IF I somehow miraculously get out of their 1million stun skills with a stun breaker, because none of mine are instant-cast stability (like OP warrior), I’m stunned again by their next stun.

Whoa whoa, now you’re just going crazy with the wild claims here. If you want anyone to take you serious, keep to the realism.

Warriors do not have 100% uptime on retal. Assuming they’re in defense, and assuming it procs perfectly for them every single time, they have at best 33% uptime. In a WvW Zerg, it is possible for ANY class to get 100% uptime in ANY boon, however, this is not Warrior related. Thats blob/boon stacking.

If a Warrior 1hit you with ANY melee skill, you were at very low health. A PURE BERSERKER warrior would look like this: ~2400 power, ~50% crit with a 210% crit bonus. We’ll assume he crit you with a Greatsword autoattack. We’ll also assume you’re a zerker ranger with 2118 armor.

(2400 Power * 1047 exo greatsword * 0.7 GS AA Coeff * 2.1 Ferocity Multi) / 2118 Ranger Armor = 1744 damage for an autoattack crit.

And thats assuming BOTH you and the war were zerker. Explain to me how you were 1shot by an Autoattack hat hit for 1744 damage please?

As for stun skills… you already claimed the War was running Doly and Balanced stance. Thats 2 utility skills. Almost every WvW warrior uses Greatsword. That leaves 1 utility skill, and 1 weapon. Lets assume Bullscharge, and Hammer.

Bullscharge is a 2s knockdown on a 40s cooldown. It’s also telegraphed enough that an alert and experienced player can reliably dodge it.

Hammer has Knockback on a 20s cooldown that’s difficult to dodge.
It also has a single target knockdown with a 30s CD and a HUGE telegraph making it VERY easy to dodge.
Finally, Earthshaker is a 2s AOE stun at full adrenaline, again with a HUGE telegraph making it VERY easy to dodge.

Also, Ranger has 4 stunbreak options. They’re all on a 40-60s cooldown, the same as Warriors Balanced Stance 40s, Endure Pain 60s, and Doly Sig 60s.

Why don’t I just stand there are bend over? That’s basically what the game wants me to do!

You need to BALANCE this stuff.

You need to get your facts straight before you randomly ask for nerfs. I hate to say it, but I feel this is largely a l2p issue.

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edit: I made a mess of the open/close quotes ; ;

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

Is this for real… ?

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Posted by: Dand.8231

Dand.8231

His post history suggests he’s just distraught about not being able to do what he thinks he ought to with his ranger. A number of people in the ranger subforum have already suggested he’s got a l2p issue.

Oh wow, you weren’t kidding. This is the most severe case of l2p I’ve ever seen!

Fed up with the state of rangers

Ranged Dead

ranger suck now

Complaint Ranger Trait Nerf

PvE Are rangers in a worse spot

ranger suck now

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

What thou need to do is probably play the warrior for a bit

Last night I finally decided just to make a ranger again for the first time in a long time, although I’m pretty familiar with most of their skills/utilities/traits, as for actually playing one live, I’m a nub. But with just knowing warrior and somewhat familiar with ranger, Warriors were not a problem at all.

You can even look in my post history , I just make mostly troll comments that aren’t over the top and I have never suggested anyone to l2p, but this post, you need to l2p

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Posted by: phokus.8934

phokus.8934

Don’t expect a response from the OP. We should ignore this post and move on.

I post from a phone so please excuse any references to ducks or any other auto corrections.