Guild Wars 2

One thing in this combat system that seems off to me is the ability of the condition blind to negate a point blank aoe attack.

For example. In WvW I charge into a group of enemies and use Stomp.
Except I got blinded, so all I see is a ton of ‘miss’ dispite stomping right next to 30 enemies.

I’m pretty sure that blind shouldnt be stopping point blank aoe’s I’m hitting the ground not people, the act of me hitting the ground is what launches foes.

I can see why it should affect weapon attacks or ground target aoe’s but point blank aoes that fan out in every direction seem like abilities you dont need to be able to see to use.

Its kind of annoying to charge into a group of enemies and use stomp, here I make this huge crater in the ground right next to my enemies and it doesnt affect them most of the time. (rarely am i getting directly targetted to get blinded, mostly its combofields and projectile/blast finishers that apply blind to me)

Anyway I thought I would share why I am bothered by blind in conjunction with point blank aoe’s it just doesnt seem right to me.

Draygo.9473:

One thing in this combat system that seems off to me is the ability of the condition blind to negate a point blank aoe attack.

For example. In WvW I charge into a group of enemies and use Stomp.
Except I got blinded, so all I see is a ton of ‘miss’ dispite stomping right next to 30 enemies.

I’m pretty sure that blind shouldnt be stopping point blank aoe’s I’m hitting the ground not people, the act of me hitting the ground is what launches foes.

I can see why it should affect weapon attacks or ground target aoe’s but point blank aoes that fan out in every direction seem like abilities you dont need to be able to see to use.

Its kind of annoying to charge into a group of enemies and use stomp, here I make this huge crater in the ground right next to my enemies and it doesnt affect them most of the time. (rarely am i getting directly targetted to get blinded, mostly its combofields and projectile/blast finishers that apply blind to me)

Anyway I thought I would share why I am bothered by blind in conjunction with point blank aoe’s it just doesnt seem right to me.

I know what you mean because it’s like someone threw sand in your eyes and when you throw a boulder into the crowd if they’re still there. It magically goes through them without having any effect.

What would be nice is

• The more players that’s in the aoe are likely to get in and the target you’re trying to hit has a 50% chance of being hit.

Why I say it like that is because the player didn’t dodge out of the way so the player have to take some damage. If they were out the aoe area then yeah 100% miss.

The only attacks that should be 100% misses are single target attacks when having the blind condition on applied on your character.

I’m pretty sure that’s some coding they have to do, but it can be done.

Blinds makes your next attack miss.
If you next attack is Stomp, it will miss.

Red Falcon.8257:

Blinds makes your next attack miss.
If you next attack is Stomp, it will miss.

How ironic isn’t since it misses everyone in that perimeter center. I understand that’s how they design the blind condition in the game, but aoe attacks should get some benefits from it.

w/e though it’s not my design I would allow in a game because it’s just an attack

Red Falcon.8257:

Blinds makes your next attack miss.
If you next attack is Stomp, it will miss.

I am fully aware of the mechanics of the game. They do not need to be restated.

The mechanic in this type of case does not feel right at all. I would suggest that they add a tooltip to point blank aoes that the ability ignores the blind condition. Something like “Ignores Blind”, as we have skills that “break stun”. These skills wont remove blind, as your next attack will still miss.

Right now it seems silly to do a stomp in the middle of a ball of enemies for it to play the huge animation and get nothing for it.

I can understand blind affecting targeted abilities or melee/ranged abilities because your character can no longer see its target.

Generally; whenever I have an issue with something in a game, I ask myself if it’s related to balance or a realistic vs. gameplay-issue.

If it’s ever the latter I quickly ignore my own contempt, simply because I don’t think games should be tailored around realism and rather around balance/gameplay

(I think AoE is a little too dominant in this game and making it partially ignore blind would stress this unnecessarily.)

Fourtyfives.6297:

Generally; whenever I have an issue with something in a game, I ask myself if it’s related to balance or a realistic vs. gameplay-issue.

If it’s ever the latter I quickly ignore my own contempt, simply because I don’t think games should be tailored around realism and rather around balance/gameplay

(I think AoE is a little too dominant in this game and making it partially ignore blind would stress this unnecessarily.)

I think of it as they’re holding back making sure the game is balance in my opinion. They understand the idea where we are coming from, but they don’t want to cross that line.

Fourtyfives.6297:

Generally; whenever I have an issue with something in a game, I ask myself if it’s related to balance or a realistic vs. gameplay-issue.

If it’s ever the latter I quickly ignore my own contempt, simply because I don’t think games should be tailored around realism and rather around balance/gameplay

(I think AoE is a little too dominant in this game and making it partially ignore blind would stress this unnecessarily.)

I think though, there is a difference between point blank aoe and targeted aoe, one is putting you at significant risk, the other is granting relative safety. While I see the balance/gameplay argument, I actually don’t think making stomp ignore blind to be unbalanced at all. Its a long cd skill with a aoe knockback. It has a significant wind up and an obvious animation which lends it to being interrupted as counterplay.

The problems making point blank aoe ignore blind may have balance considerations in the elementalist profession (again one major pbaoe attack has a very long channel, lending itself to interruption), but I don’t see major balance implications here.

I stomped right next to my co-worker today, she didn’t go flying in the air.

Maybe when you are blind you don’t stomp hard enough? You start to panic or something

I bet you also failed to put a hole in the floor.

Penguin.5197:

Maybe when you are blind you don’t stomp hard enough? You start to panic or something

Fear already stops stomp

Well that didn’t last long…..