Guild Wars 2

Recently, I’ve been dabbling into GS/LB builds. While playing I came to the conclusion that their mobility and decent AoE damage makes them a decent candidate to replace a S/D teef on a team. This will be even more true if the teleport changes ever actually work properly.

There’s many ways to run this spec, most variations are minor. When it comes to runes I find Pack to be good but Ogre is also solid. For Elite you can go Rampage for DPS or Banner for support. Some sigil’s can be swapped if you prefer such as Energy for Leeching or Hydromancy. Here’s what I’ve used thus far:

Balanced Sustain and Damage

Recently Bull’s Charge has been working a bit better for me. I took off melee assist which means you’ll often pass through your target then hit, but I find I hit more often to the point where it’s worth taking. You can take the points in Strength and put it into Tactics for leg Specialist to use Bladetrail as a way to better ensure Bull’s Charge hits.

More Damage, Less Sustain

You lose all of your “training wheels” in the form of Defy Pain but gain much more might stacking and GS skill reduction. I would recommend Rampage on this version because it gives you damage reduction that can be useful if focused.

More Sustain, Less Damage

This gives you double Endure Pain which helps increase your survival under pressure. I add in Leg Specialist because without it your only way to get any use out of 100b is with Pin Down or to cleave downed enemies. Stand close and use Bladetrail and follow up with 100b and you’ll get a good number of hits in. You can also use Bladetrail at range to ensure you hit Rush. You could also just go for 2 in Strength.

There’s plenty of other variants, but these are the 3 I’ve found to be the most useful. I really like option 2 but it does mean you got to be more on your toes. I find though that all 3 of these builds can beat the other team’s teef, if for no other reason that standing on point and taking the constant Combustion shot hits normally forces them to use their heal, which normally makes them roll off point at which point you use Pin Down and laugh as you steal the cap. Don’t forget to use Combustion Shot for combos. On the DPS version save Bull’s Charge for a Leap Finisher so even if the attack misses you at least got a fire shield out of it, which is more might for you. Try to not chain Pin Down and +Bull’s Charge if you don’t have to. Using them separately means you get 2 chances to hit with 100b. Also, when Pin Down lands, try to move behind them so they can’t hit you back with melee.

Gl; HF.

Link 2 and 3 are identical.

Larynx.2453:

Link 2 and 3 are identical.

Fixed, idk why but sometimes the build maker spits out the same link even after changes.

Questions:

1. Why Bull’s Charge over Bola?
2. Why Heightened Focus over Burst Mastery?
3. If you take Heightened Focus, wouldn’t 6 in Arms be better instead? 10% constant damage from minor + Major trait (Furious for example) vs 0-15% damage from Heightened Focus.

Larynx.2453:

Questions:

1. Why Bull’s Charge over Bola?
2. Why Heightened Focus over Burst Mastery?
3. If you take Heightened Focus, wouldn’t 6 in Arms be better instead? 10% constant damage from minor + Major trait (Furious for example) vs 0-15% damage from Heightened Focus.

1. Bull’s Charge is a gap closer and also knocks down your target which forces them to either stun break or eat the damage. With Bolas, it’s a skill that still loves to miss, and the target can still cleanse the immob very easy (lack of cover conditions) AND hit you back.

2. It WAS supposed to be Burst Mastery, fixed. The editor must have been tripping, or I was.

In my opinion the Greatbow build is much better than those. Or Tarcis’ Longbow/GS build. Or w/e you want to call that one.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd0FaVImhwJagfgC7t3C2CA1zRuXGA-TpBHwAMLDQ4IAU4CAA4BA0a/hBHCAA

It offers a lot of armor and good burst with AA into GS swap+dodge+Arcing Slice. Great Fury uptime allows you to deal good damage outside of Sigil of Intelligence swaps. You can replace Valk Amulet with Soldier’s, but the damage drops considerably. It uses triple Stances, because you don’t really need to land 100b to kill people, it’s just there to cleave or punish people who think they can tank you.

Now, I love this build to bits. You need skill to play it, landing your skills is crucial and extremely rewarding, it’s good in team fights and solo. The problem is total lack of support for your team, which is why it’s worse than shoutbow, but I think it’s one of the best fighting builds in the Warrior’s kitten nal right now. < really? ?rsenal is a curse word now?

BurrTheKing.8571:

Recently, I’ve been dabbling into GS/LB builds. While playing I came to the conclusion that their mobility and decent AoE damage makes them a decent candidate to replace a S/D teef on a team.

Gl; HF.

Only on Foefire and maybe Nifhel, You are too slow on other maps due to inability to abuse z axis teleports.

YuiRS.8129:

In my opinion the Greatbow build is much better than those. Or Tarcis’ Longbow/GS build. Or w/e you want to call that one.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd0FaVImhwJagfgC7t3C2CA1zRuXGA-TpBHwAMLDQ4IAU4CAA4BA0a/hBHCAA

It offers a lot of armor and good burst with AA into GS swap+dodge+Arcing Slice. Great Fury uptime allows you to deal good damage outside of Sigil of Intelligence swaps. You can replace Valk Amulet with Soldier’s, but the damage drops considerably. It uses triple Stances, because you don’t really need to land 100b to kill people, it’s just there to cleave or punish people who think they can tank you.

Now, I love this build to bits. You need skill to play it, landing your skills is crucial and extremely rewarding, it’s good in team fights and solo. The problem is total lack of support for your team, which is why it’s worse than shoutbow, but I think it’s one of the best fighting builds in the Warrior’s kitten nal right now. < really? ?rsenal is a curse word now?

I don’t see why you would want building momentum, with the “fix” it barely gives any endurance back now.

YuiRS.8129:

In my opinion the Greatbow build is much better than those. Or Tarcis’ Longbow/GS build. Or w/e you want to call that one.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd0FaVImhwJagfgC7t3C2CA1zRuXGA-TpBHwAMLDQ4IAU4CAA4BA0a/hBHCAA

It offers a lot of armor and good burst with AA into GS swap+dodge+Arcing Slice. Great Fury uptime allows you to deal good damage outside of Sigil of Intelligence swaps. You can replace Valk Amulet with Soldier’s, but the damage drops considerably. It uses triple Stances, because you don’t really need to land 100b to kill people, it’s just there to cleave or punish people who think they can tank you.

Now, I love this build to bits. You need skill to play it, landing your skills is crucial and extremely rewarding, it’s good in team fights and solo. The problem is total lack of support for your team, which is why it’s worse than shoutbow, but I think it’s one of the best fighting builds in the Warrior’s kitten nal right now. < really? ?rsenal is a curse word now?

I really don’t see how that 1 point in Strength is better then one extra point in defense to get Defy Pain, or even Last stand. That gets you additional vigor which would already neutralize the burst skill endurance regen, and then you have the extra EP/stability…

Replace an S/D Thief though? Keep dreaming. You don’t offer boon theft and you don’t really cleave better. No vertical range back caps either. What are you trying to do, beat S/D Thief in their own game? That isn’t the correct mentality really.

What you should be doing is ask yourself, how do you become strong in your own unique way?

And before you make a big statement such as “I think Greatbow can replace s/d thief” why don’t you make it to the competitive scene first? You will NOT affect the meta like what you’re kinda trying to do right now if all you do is hang out in WvW and never fight top players with it.