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How Warriors work in this game
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Sure, run with greatsword, spam 1, 2, 3, endure pain, shouts and V key (dodge).
I’m NOT b*tthurt because they nerfed consumable. I AM b*tthurt because they are not doing a proper balance & fixes to warriors to make more builds useful.
no need to run GS,
axe/mace build is very viable, even with the pie balance.
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/75020-my-final-axemace-dps-dungeon-build/
for pvp you still can use the mace/mace +hammer control build.
rifle (killshot…) build still viable
plenty builds are still viable…
actually warriors have more viable builds than other classes…
you can have two types of support warrior, shouts or banners
that can have tanking variation with mace/shield or DPS variation like sonic boon build.
you can have good ranged build with rifle,
you can have several DPS builds, GS, axe/mace, etc
you can have control build with mace/mace or hammer…
the elementalists that people on these forums like to compare warrior to, have only two viable builds, the bunker/cantrip build and the auramancer build, that’s it…
to say that they have more builds is to say that warrior can go condition build with sword/warhorn and be good …
what i am trying to say, is that every class has its problems, if you think that some class is terribly OP, just play it and see that it has its own weaknesses…
Just take a look at the patch notes: Elementalists got a buff to their auras. Warriors got cleave on their Banners. Who in their right mind would smack something with a Banner?!?
The Dev(s) in charge of the Warrior Profession has no idea what they’re doing.
I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.
Do you even lift, bro?
Do you even lift, bro?
What you want 1on1? I would rather that!
Now ontopic, you guys need to visit youtube, and see what melee warriors are capable of with proper player skill. Soloing lupi, going solo to lupi, soloing AC path 1, in which I may add MANY pugs FAIL. Player skill can bring you quite far c:
Ooooh, although you’re quite ignorant about warrior I’m very intrigued about your “viable bunkerwarrior”. I’ll 1v1 you, mind if I grab my necro?
What you want 1on1? I would rather that!
Now ontopic, you guys need to visit youtube, and see what melee warriors are capable of with proper player skill. Soloing lupi, going solo to lupi, soloing AC path 1, in which I may add MANY pugs FAIL. Player skill can bring you quite far c:
Ooooh, although you’re quite ignorant about warrior I’m very intrigued about your “viable bunkerwarrior”. I’ll 1v1 you, mind if I grab my necro?
Man, don’t waste time on him. ALl he does is bullsh talk, nothing else, even if i would have said yes for 1v1 he wont show, just like with tanking in arah or frac 30+. Completely waste of time
You guys do realize that tanky warrior is actually more tanky than a guardian right?
Hahahahahahahahaha
He is telling the truth.
Facepalm yourself for facepalming to him. You seem to suffer from a severe case of L2P issue if you still think guardians can tank better than warriors.
Warriors are the best tanks out there, though not very good at DPS while tanking. They can still dish out acceptable damage with Axe as main hand.
I NEVER used omnom pie and still never had issues to tank any fight.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
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He is telling the truth.
Facepalm yourself for facepalming to him. You seem to suffer from a severe case of L2P issue if you still think guardians can tank better than warriors.
Warriors are the best tanks out there, though not very good at DPS while tanking. They can still dish out acceptable damage with Axe as main hand.
I NEVER used omnom pie and still never had issues to tank any fight.
This is not just o-pie threat. And guardians outpreform warriors in “tanking”, a fact. Warrios are able to create a tanky build, but is it worth it? No.
No. The fact is that it’s easier on guardian.
About the guy with the necro response to my 1on1 statement, guardians doesn’t like necromancers as well.
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A Tank Warrior, Is the same as a “Glass Cannon” guardian, pointless. Or how about them necro well support healers? just stupid…
He is telling the truth.
Facepalm yourself for facepalming to him. You seem to suffer from a severe case of L2P issue if you still think guardians can tank better than warriors.
Warriors are the best tanks out there, though not very good at DPS while tanking. They can still dish out acceptable damage with Axe as main hand.
I NEVER used omnom pie and still never had issues to tank any fight.
This is not just o-pie threat. And guardians outpreform warriors in “tanking”, a fact. Warrios are able to create a tanky build, but is it worth it? No.
Why do you say a fact just like that when its not? You have almost twice as HP than a guardian, you can have adrenal regen and shouts (yes guardians get other goodies) but you are still as good as them. Are you going to complain about protection? You really need that that bad? stop running with all zerk characters, many classes can provide you that. I don’t think it is necessary at all (I wont complain having it either lol)
Seriously, I’ve never seen a guardian outlast my warrior. They always need to back up when out of endurance or tricks… I can take that extra hit and still have 30% more HP than his full bar and never leave melee.
People here confused having high crit + overpowered food with tankiness. Yes is it totally worthit to build tank warrior. Another completely different thing is that YOU don’t like to play one.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
A Tank Warrior, Is the same as a “Glass Cannon” guardian, pointless. Or how about them necro well support healers? just stupid…
Your opinion. Try not to make it a statement when you don’t have real proof to back that up.
Warriors are equal if not superior than Guardians for tanking, pity most of them (specially on this forums) were seduced by crit and dps.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
Maybe its because they build their guardians around healing power which is fail but still is the common tactic. I gurantee a well built guardian could at least 2x outlast your warrior, since your warrior is well built, you cannot compare it to badly built guardians. You must compare it to an equally well built guardian, and id love to tank the same monster with you to see who can last longer as a little fun contest
Maybe its because they build their guardians around healing power which is fail but still is the common tactic. I gurantee a well built guardian could at least 2x outlast your warrior, since your warrior is well built, you cannot compare it to badly built guardians. You must compare it to an equally well built guardian, and id love to tank the same monster with you to see who can last longer as a little fun contest
I tried it before a couple of times, thing is when a warrior and a guardian are together I usually take aggro over guardian since warrior tank (with Axe like I do) grabs more aggro cause it has equal toughness, equal proximity but more damage. Either way, its hard to tell in party cause I buff you, you buff me. But still sounds like fun.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
I have around 1.2-1.4k hours on my warr, so stop being delusional we know our stuff. Warr lacks proper regen (lol banners)/protection and defensive boons, has badly scaling heals and high CD damage mitigation, Adrenal health without signet is useless. If you want to stand a chance in bunkering, you need to invest heavily in condition removal, which is warriors weakest side. Shoutheals? No. You’ll lose utility slots for either stability, stamina signet or banners. A fully sustainfocused warrior doesn’t even come close to the sustain guardian has. Vitality is totally useless for bunkering, a 13-14k guard will last longer than a warr without proper selfsustain and 30k hp. AH, new buffs to staff, vigor, readily available perma prot/multiple regen sources, aegis, invuln/blocks, hell even book if you want, all of that blows warrior out of the water so hard. Even engys/eles bunker better than warrior.
@ravenmoon: the difference is your warrior will fall in a matter of seconds since your condiremoval sucks, if you have stability you’re gimped from other sources for sustain and that your one stability can be broken into a long lasting fearcombo. A good guardian should never die in a 1v1 (maybe except when moad unexpectedly before using a CD), not even against a condinecro.
I have around 1.2-1.4k hours on my warr, so stop being delusional we know our stuff. Warr lacks proper regen (lol banners)/protection and defensive boons, has badly scaling heals and high CD damage mitigation, Adrenal health without signet is useless. If you want to stand a chance in bunkering, you need to invest heavily in condition removal, which is warriors weakest side. Shoutheals? No. You’ll lose utility slots for either stability, stamina signet or banners. A fully sustainfocused warrior doesn’t even come close to the sustain guardian has. Vitality is totally useless for bunkering, a 13-14k guard will last longer than a warr without proper selfsustain and 30k hp. AH, new buffs to staff, vigor, readily available perma prot/multiple regen sources, aegis, invuln/blocks, hell even book if you want, all of that blows warrior out of the water so hard. Even engys/eles bunker better than warrior.
@ravenmoon: the difference is your warrior will fall in a matter of seconds since your condiremoval sucks, if you have stability you’re gimped from other sources for sustain and that your one stability can be broken into a long lasting fearcombo. A good guardian should never die in a 1v1 (maybe except when moad unexpectedly before using a CD), not even against a condinecro.
I’m sorry you wasted so many hours on your warrior and still feel gimped.
Don’t call delusional to players just because they don’t have the problems you have. Try to work around your issues. I did it with mines and have no problems with my character to face any dungeon out there. I have a very successful dungeon group though I pug most of the time, and don’t need your criticism to the class to realize something it’s not true.
If your problem is with tPvP then perhaps your complain is about other classes having OP mechanics but you can’t call out warriors bad just because you got beat.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
But, due to chilled/crippled lowering leap range by a lot, if the necro notices it’s going to die, it will quickly run away and because of OP guardian range weps, you can’t do much. Although I must agree, staff received a good buff last night which really buffs the bunker guardians who prefer staff as secondary wep
Nerfing an obviously overpowered food is not a warrior nerf. It is a nerf to anyone using it. I personally think that all the foods should be removed from WvW as they are removed in sPvP. They do break balance and make certain people cry over it. Of course WvW is not balanced pvp not by a long shot, but a zerg with food buffs against one that is without is a huge difference because of the numbers, but using food does not mean you have better player skill, which is vital in this game.
I don’t see why would you use any type of food in PvE beside the magic find one if you are running MF build with all of its pros and cons
It was a Warrior nerf because it removed a much needed band-aid to fix the glaring sustain issue the class suffers from.
I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.
Do you even lift, bro?
Do you even lift, bro?
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Let’s move away from your warrior. Tell me Mesket. Are you truly happy with the current state of warriors and changes they have made since launch?
Read Arenanet’s description of warrior and apply it to average warrior in game. Does it match? I’m happy that you don’t have problems, but many of us do. So are we delusional?
I didn’t summon the delusional word here…
Yes, I’m happy with my warrior. Of course there is room for improvement but I think warriors are a very successful at DPS and Tanking.
The site describes us very well, I rely on armor and health +regens (no, not banners lol) and have my set of utilities to back that up.
If I have to cast my opinion on where do warriors have more room for improvement, I’ll say stances… they are weak and have long cooldowns for short durations. Frenzy for example… why do we have to receive double damage to get the same buff others get freely? This is the kind of things I would say warriors can do better. Balanced Stance? I know is very popular, but why use it while you have Dolyak Signet? its almost the same stability duration with almost the same cooldown but the signet provides me a constant +100 toughness while unused. That sounds like a rushed skill without second look.
Overall I think the warrior are in a very good shape. Many were hit by the omnom nerf but other classes were hit as well. Do you think thiefs are not crying over this?
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
I have around 1.2-1.4k hours on my warr, so stop being delusional we know our stuff. Warr lacks proper regen (lol banners)/protection and defensive boons, has badly scaling heals and high CD damage mitigation, Adrenal health without signet is useless. If you want to stand a chance in bunkering, you need to invest heavily in condition removal, which is warriors weakest side. Shoutheals? No. You’ll lose utility slots for either stability, stamina signet or banners. A fully sustainfocused warrior doesn’t even come close to the sustain guardian has. Vitality is totally useless for bunkering, a 13-14k guard will last longer than a warr without proper selfsustain and 30k hp. AH, new buffs to staff, vigor, readily available perma prot/multiple regen sources, aegis, invuln/blocks, hell even book if you want, all of that blows warrior out of the water so hard. Even engys/eles bunker better than warrior.
@ravenmoon: the difference is your warrior will fall in a matter of seconds since your condiremoval sucks, if you have stability you’re gimped from other sources for sustain and that your one stability can be broken into a long lasting fearcombo. A good guardian should never die in a 1v1 (maybe except when moad unexpectedly before using a CD), not even against a condinecro.
I’m sorry you wasted so many hours on your warrior and still feel gimped.
Don’t call delusional to players just because they don’t have the problems you have. Try to work around your issues. I did it with mines and have no problems with my character to face any dungeon out there. I have a very successful dungeon group though I pug most of the time, and don’t need your criticism to the class to realize something it’s not true.
If your problem is with tPvP then perhaps your complain is about other classes having OP mechanics but you can’t call out warriors bad just because you got beat.
I’m not criticizing the profession, I’m criticizing the viability of a bunker warrior. Warrior is my main and my baby, but he is definitely not a viable bunker.
Don’t get me wrong, warrior isn’t gimped by far in PvE and he is actually okish in tpvp with one build (100b glass ofc) and with the proper team composition. In most cases other professions just have better mechanics, don’t need babysitting and do their job easier. Due to massive cripple/chill/conditionbursts in tpvp, he is certainly the underdog though. Faulty gapclosers, bad sustain and bad ability to reset are one of the biggest issues. Since, you don’t need those in PvE he can excel there.
For PvE I run full glass in dungeons and I have no problems with him there. Mobs follow patterns and are predictable and thus easily avoidable. I have my DM title from old Simin and never felt gimped in any dungeon. Damage is where he shines and where he is the absolute best at. A tanky warrior is a useless warrior honestly in all places other than wubwub zerg. There he is viable as a meleetrain (still needs heavy babysitting from guards and eles). By playing tanky you’re doing something that others do much-much better and gimping your damage at the same time and the idea that a warrior being a viable bunker in pvp due to his hp is just unreal. We can only kill before we get killed there.
How easier is the new Simin? Did they nerf her to the level of CoF p1 Effigy? I failed this boss like 4-5 times and eventually did it and once I figured it out, the feel of accomplishment was amazing. And now I kind of want to do her again, but I need the challenge :U
Im running on 1,7k toughness with forge runes on 20k hp, i need to get more?
My friend that plays guardian running in full zerk gear, has maybe 12k hp at best and can survive far longer than i do, i understand everything is ok?
I dunno. Are you dying? If you are, then you need to practice.
I hardly dying, i just moves to rifle when things goes bad for me, but i wants to stay in melee entire time like guardians does. IT IS HARD TO GET?
Hang on a tick….
Is this Skwisgaar Skwigelf? lmao
I seriously hope they didn’t nerf her too hard, I might check it out today or tomorrow.
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Let’s move away from your warrior. Tell me Mesket. Are you truly happy with the current state of warriors and changes they have made since launch?
Read Arenanet’s description of warrior and apply it to average warrior in game. Does it match? I’m happy that you don’t have problems, but many of us do. So are we delusional?
I didn’t summon the delusional word here…
Yes, I’m happy with my warrior. Of course there is room for improvement but I think warriors are a very successful at DPS and Tanking.
The site describes us very well, I rely on armor and health +regens (no, not banners lol) and have my set of utilities to back that up.
If I have to cast my opinion on where do warriors have more room for improvement, I’ll say stances… they are weak and have long cooldowns for short durations. Frenzy for example… why do we have to receive double damage to get the same buff others get freely? This is the kind of things I would say warriors can do better. Balanced Stance? I know is very popular, but why use it while you have Dolyak Signet? its almost the same stability duration with almost the same cooldown but the signet provides me a constant +100 toughness while unused. That sounds like a rushed skill without second look.
Overall I think the warrior are in a very good shape. Many were hit by the omnom nerf but other classes were hit as well. Do you think thiefs are not crying over this?
You’re wrong.
I would explain why but you would just report my post again.
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Let’s move away from your warrior. Tell me Mesket. Are you truly happy with the current state of warriors and changes they have made since launch?
Read Arenanet’s description of warrior and apply it to average warrior in game. Does it match? I’m happy that you don’t have problems, but many of us do. So are we delusional?
I didn’t summon the delusional word here…
Yes, I’m happy with my warrior. Of course there is room for improvement but I think warriors are a very successful at DPS and Tanking.
The site describes us very well, I rely on armor and health +regens (no, not banners lol) and have my set of utilities to back that up.
If I have to cast my opinion on where do warriors have more room for improvement, I’ll say stances… they are weak and have long cooldowns for short durations. Frenzy for example… why do we have to receive double damage to get the same buff others get freely? This is the kind of things I would say warriors can do better. Balanced Stance? I know is very popular, but why use it while you have Dolyak Signet? its almost the same stability duration with almost the same cooldown but the signet provides me a constant +100 toughness while unused. That sounds like a rushed skill without second look.
Overall I think the warrior are in a very good shape. Many were hit by the omnom nerf but other classes were hit as well. Do you think thiefs are not crying over this?
You’re wrong.
I would explain why but you would just report my post again.
Enlighten us with your wisdom, without being personal or insulting and you won’t be reported. Though your complains doesn’t make you look like a very successful warrior to begin with (you might prove us wrong) and probably will not really take into account. But go ahead, the internet is willing to learn from you.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
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Let’s move away from your warrior. Tell me Mesket. Are you truly happy with the current state of warriors and changes they have made since launch?
Read Arenanet’s description of warrior and apply it to average warrior in game. Does it match? I’m happy that you don’t have problems, but many of us do. So are we delusional?
I didn’t summon the delusional word here…
Yes, I’m happy with my warrior. Of course there is room for improvement but I think warriors are a very successful at DPS and Tanking.
The site describes us very well, I rely on armor and health +regens (no, not banners lol) and have my set of utilities to back that up.
If I have to cast my opinion on where do warriors have more room for improvement, I’ll say stances… they are weak and have long cooldowns for short durations. Frenzy for example… why do we have to receive double damage to get the same buff others get freely? This is the kind of things I would say warriors can do better. Balanced Stance? I know is very popular, but why use it while you have Dolyak Signet? its almost the same stability duration with almost the same cooldown but the signet provides me a constant +100 toughness while unused. That sounds like a rushed skill without second look.
Overall I think the warrior are in a very good shape. Many were hit by the omnom nerf but other classes were hit as well. Do you think thiefs are not crying over this?
You’re wrong.
I would explain why but you would just report my post again.
Enlighten us with your wisdom, without being personal or insulting and you won’t be reported. Though your complains doesn’t make you look like a very successful warrior to begin with (you might prove us wrong) and probably will not really take into account. But go ahead, the internet is willing to learn from you.
I’d rather not get reported by you again so I’m just going to say you’re wrong, again, and leave it at that.
Good day.
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Let’s move away from your warrior. Tell me Mesket. Are you truly happy with the current state of warriors and changes they have made since launch?
Read Arenanet’s description of warrior and apply it to average warrior in game. Does it match? I’m happy that you don’t have problems, but many of us do. So are we delusional?
I didn’t summon the delusional word here…
Yes, I’m happy with my warrior. Of course there is room for improvement but I think warriors are a very successful at DPS and Tanking.
The site describes us very well, I rely on armor and health +regens (no, not banners lol) and have my set of utilities to back that up.
If I have to cast my opinion on where do warriors have more room for improvement, I’ll say stances… they are weak and have long cooldowns for short durations. Frenzy for example… why do we have to receive double damage to get the same buff others get freely? This is the kind of things I would say warriors can do better. Balanced Stance? I know is very popular, but why use it while you have Dolyak Signet? its almost the same stability duration with almost the same cooldown but the signet provides me a constant +100 toughness while unused. That sounds like a rushed skill without second look.
Overall I think the warrior are in a very good shape. Many were hit by the omnom nerf but other classes were hit as well. Do you think thiefs are not crying over this?
You’re wrong.
I would explain why but you would just report my post again.
Enlighten us with your wisdom, without being personal or insulting and you won’t be reported. Though your complains doesn’t make you look like a very successful warrior to begin with (you might prove us wrong) and probably will not really take into account. But go ahead, the internet is willing to learn from you.
I’d rather not get reported by you again so I’m just going to say you’re wrong, again, and leave it at that.
Good day.
Ok, seems that you have the power to set right and wrong over the internet but not to play a warrior without the feeling the come here and complain or give valid arguments rich on evidence. Fair enough.
Back to topic
I still think Warriors are fine and if any, what makes warrior complain at the end is that other classes have OP mechanics. Thousands of Warriors are out there completing the game content without problem. If tPVP bugs you, make sure you address the issue properly instead of saying we are “broken” cause honestly we are not.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
This has been nothing but a troll thread.
You’re telling this to a warrior (700h) that spent about (150h) running axe/mace. I made “perfect” axe/mace build, they nerfed it a bit. It’s ok, but my POINT is that we are not getting right balancing! There are constant changes happening to elementalist, thiefs, guardians and so on. They are not OP nor they are perfect, I agree with you. But they are getting somewhere and we are not.
Just wanted to comment that I didn’t stop replying because I gave up or because your point is strong. I’m just stepping back to absorb the whole.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. This being about dungeon content, Warrior is far more popular in that content than Ranger and yet Ranger is “not getting the right balancing” either. What about Engineers and Necromancers? Thieves just took a big hit in PvE dungeons too.
How about we be understanding adults here? There is a LOT of work the devs need to put into this game, including to warriors. Why would you expect to be special and have your special profession be the focus of all the dev’s attention until you’re satisfied? Yeah there’s a lot that needs to be done, from patching exploits, adjusting dungeon content, fixing bugs and building content to make keep the game interesting.
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Let’s move away from your warrior. Tell me Mesket. Are you truly happy with the current state of warriors and changes they have made since launch?
Read Arenanet’s description of warrior and apply it to average warrior in game. Does it match? I’m happy that you don’t have problems, but many of us do. So are we delusional?
I didn’t summon the delusional word here…
Yes, I’m happy with my warrior. Of course there is room for improvement but I think warriors are a very successful at DPS and Tanking.
The site describes us very well, I rely on armor and health +regens (no, not banners lol) and have my set of utilities to back that up.
If I have to cast my opinion on where do warriors have more room for improvement, I’ll say stances… they are weak and have long cooldowns for short durations. Frenzy for example… why do we have to receive double damage to get the same buff others get freely? This is the kind of things I would say warriors can do better. Balanced Stance? I know is very popular, but why use it while you have Dolyak Signet? its almost the same stability duration with almost the same cooldown but the signet provides me a constant +100 toughness while unused. That sounds like a rushed skill without second look.
Overall I think the warrior are in a very good shape. Many were hit by the omnom nerf but other classes were hit as well. Do you think thiefs are not crying over this?
You’re wrong.
I would explain why but you would just report my post again.
Enlighten us with your wisdom, without being personal or insulting and you won’t be reported. Though your complains doesn’t make you look like a very successful warrior to begin with (you might prove us wrong) and probably will not really take into account. But go ahead, the internet is willing to learn from you.
I’d rather not get reported by you again so I’m just going to say you’re wrong, again, and leave it at that.
Good day.
Ok, seems that you have the power to set right and wrong over the internet but not to play a warrior without the feeling the come here and complain or give valid arguments rich on evidence. Fair enough.
Back to topic
I still think Warriors are fine and if any, what makes warrior complain at the end is that other classes have OP mechanics. Thousands of Warriors are out there completing the game content without problem. If tPVP bugs you, make sure you address the issue properly instead of saying we are “broken” cause honestly we are not.
No. You’re wrong, again.
Please remain civil and friendly when posting.
You guys do realize that tanky warrior is actually more tanky than a guardian right?
Hahahahahahahahaha
I suppose you haven’t seen a good bunker warrior. A good bunker warrior, wouldn’t just stay in one place and take a beating. But yeah, go ahead facepalm and laugh all you want.
Stop talking about things that don’t exist. Make a video or stop spouting nonsense. Warrior doesn’t have a bunker build. It has a decent damage mitigation build. Bunker builds are self sustaining walls that take multiple people to bring down. A warrior can not indefinitely sustain even in a 1v1 fight.
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Please remain civil and friendly when posting.
I doubt that would be possible with all these ragers and trolls taking advantage of this situation.
“i think it’s an underserved nerf. now we have to slot a stun breaker??”
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
-Excalibur.9748
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
-Excalibur.9748
How easier is the new Simin? Did they nerf her to the level of CoF p1 Effigy? I failed this boss like 4-5 times and eventually did it and once I figured it out, the feel of accomplishment was amazing. And now I kind of want to do her again, but I need the challenge :U
Did her today, she is nothing special now, they’ve reduced her stealth regen a lot. I can imagine it’s totally doable with any party now without any major problems. 4-1 spark thingie seems to be fixed I think.
How easier is the new Simin? Did they nerf her to the level of CoF p1 Effigy? I failed this boss like 4-5 times and eventually did it and once I figured it out, the feel of accomplishment was amazing. And now I kind of want to do her again, but I need the challenge :U
Did her today, she is nothing special now, they’ve reduced her stealth regen a lot. I can imagine it’s totally doable with any party now without any major problems. 4-1 spark thingie seems to be fixed I think.
Its was dps race anyway.
You guys do realize that tanky warrior is actually more tanky than a guardian right?
Hahahahahahahahaha
I suppose you haven’t seen a good bunker warrior. A good bunker warrior, wouldn’t just stay in one place and take a beating. But yeah, go ahead facepalm and laugh all you want.
Stop talking about things that don’t exist. Make a video or stop spouting nonsense. Warrior doesn’t have a bunker build. It has a decent damage mitigation build. Bunker builds are self sustaining walls that take multiple people to bring down. A warrior can not indefinitely sustain even in a 1v1 fight.
Neither a guardian can, what is your point
The whole thread I’m explaining how you shouldn’t let being hit in the first place and here mister genius comes and says “but a guardian takes more beating face to face :U”
Seriously? So, if you are right, then let all bunker eles, with their light armor stand in 1 place infront of a 100b zerker warrior, see how bunker they are. It’s basically what all of you are saying
You really need to take a serious look over your playstyles if you rely on a food to keep you alive
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Or you could, you know, accept the fact that Warrior has some garbage sustain options where as it’s Guardian counterpart requires you to practically try to be able to die.
“. Warrior doesn’t have a bunker build. It has a decent damage mitigation build. Bunker builds are self sustaining walls that take multiple people to bring down. A warrior can not indefinitely sustain even in a 1v1 fight.”
You are wrong, i have been able to beat 3players at a time with my “tanky” build in www, they were 80 and that wastn one of those"shii i just bursted them down in couple sec". I know that is not big deal many can do that. But back to that sustaining part, i didnt rlly roll pvp much but for week i had this spark to do it. I was able to easily whitstand ANY player that came across me, there were some high level players with top stats at the end of the game but still they absolutely was not able to kill me alone even though their incredible damages. And i do not play like run and run and hide behind wall and then to otherside of the wall, im talking about clean area actually fighting them, ofc wasnt able to kill the good players but neither was they able to kill me. Sometimes i could even whitstand 2 farely good players whitout dying at all.
I did both baid and free ones and got the first prices pretty oftenly. Had to hear a lot bullshi from other partymember about my ridicilously looking gear and build system as much as they saw it, but at the end of the game they had completely nothing ignorant to say.
I freaking hate this kind of threats that makes everyone think guardian is something you MUST have in fractals for example, ofc they are good and can be played good but ANY other professional is cabale of filling the same role just with different playstyle that many of you might not see.
What was the build you were using to survive like that? How was your damage?
All this arguing over PvE…
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Warriors are fine in PvE. Period
It’s in PvP, you know combat against unscripted opponents that actually dodge and burst you back, where warriors are a pile of kitten poo.
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“Period.” is always such a compelling argument. The fact remains that classes are not entirely balanced in PvE and that Warriors have received very little attention since launch; now they’ve lost one of their only effective sustains.
Honestly, guardians also have more ways to stack dmg with survivability.
Great example: Symbol Guardians.
Symbols do Dmg and Heal and grant boons(Protection/Retaliation/Swiftness) that we don’t have easy or any access to.
They also get a passive that burns their foe every x attack.
Those two with weapon dps all at once, without wasting a utility for heals yet. But wait, it gets better. Now you also have the option to trait into healing yourself every time you grant a boon to allies(which counts yourself). So in group fights, they’re OP.
Other classes like elementalist are also OP. But I’m just giving examples.
When it comes down to warriors, unless you’re offensive (Burst DPS) you’re not doing anything another class can’t do better.
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