Guild Wars 2

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing

1. If you look at blind converted to fury, it only grant 3 sec since converted.
I think this is something wrong, almost no one will have any benefit with only 3 second of fury. increase it up to 9 sec just like others.

2. fear to stability, but no one can use warhorn skill while in fear unless stance. I do not think warhorn user would have stance in their build though. This should be done something different, like, warhorn skills becomes useable while in CC effect. anyway warhorn is in bunker line so there must be some kinda of “treatment” against to fear.

lol no.

So anyone who uses warhorn gets 2 aoe stun breaks on a very short cooldown?

OP. no. won’t happen. lol.

tho, the fury is a good point, they should buff the duration

Kitt.2567:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing

1. If you look at blind converted to fury, it only grant 3 sec since converted.
I think this is something wrong, almost no one will have any benefit with only 3 second of fury. increase it up to 9 sec just like others.

2. fear to stability, but no one can use warhorn skill while in fear unless stance. I do not think warhorn user would have stance in their build though. This should be done something different, like, warhorn skills becomes useable while in CC effect. anyway warhorn is in bunker line so there must be some kinda of “treatment” against to fear.

1. That’s not going to happen, considering how prevalent Blind is. Your argument about “everything else” being 9s also doesn’t apply, since Protection and Stability aren’t 9s either. This would be a particularly nasty problem against Sword Guardians and D/P Thieves, since you could pretty much cleanse blinds at a pace where the conversion would give you permanent Fury.
2. The point with Quick Breathing converting Fear to Stability is in Warhorn being an AoE weapon. You can use Quick Breathing to convert Fear on a team mate to Stability. Everything doesn’t have to be made for solo situations.

Olba.5376:

Kitt.2567:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quick_Breathing

1. If you look at blind converted to fury, it only grant 3 sec since converted.
I think this is something wrong, almost no one will have any benefit with only 3 second of fury. increase it up to 9 sec just like others.

2. fear to stability, but no one can use warhorn skill while in fear unless stance. I do not think warhorn user would have stance in their build though. This should be done something different, like, warhorn skills becomes useable while in CC effect. anyway warhorn is in bunker line so there must be some kinda of “treatment” against to fear.

1. That’s not going to happen, considering how prevalent Blind is. Your argument about “everything else” being 9s also doesn’t apply, since Protection and Stability aren’t 9s either. This would be a particularly nasty problem against Sword Guardians and D/P Thieves, since you could pretty much cleanse blinds at a pace where the conversion would give you permanent Fury.
2. The point with Quick Breathing converting Fear to Stability is in Warhorn being an AoE weapon. You can use Quick Breathing to convert Fear on a team mate to Stability. Everything doesn’t have to be made for solo situations.

I can understand your 2nd point but about 1st point, do you consider warhorn conversion is totally random conversion that we cannot select what we want to convert and those thief and guardian does not always inflict only blind at one time upon us? For guardian they spam pretty much burning and for thief probly poison not just blind. So converting fury by using warhorn ON PURPOSE is pretty much impossible, or you just stand and do nothing until get blind to convert only? Therefore longer fury duration is needed as it is hard to just sit down and wait for blind. 3sec is just too short, and warhorn skill def have cooltime.

And warhorn skills does not convert stun or daze effect into boons, they are cc but not conditions, only fear that necro would do into boons. they pretty much spam fear actually with many other conditions, including corrupt boons that convert all boons into cond. Even though fear is applied and if we could use warhorn while in fear, you dont know which cond warhorn would convert, fear shoudlnt be always first one to be converted, as it is totally random conversion that game system determine.

Warhorn is bunker line weapon, and this bunker job need stability by any chance but sadly no for warrior, yes for guardian unless you sacrifice one shout into balanced stance. Meanwhile, guardian heal a lot more than warrior’s do with their staffs and mace shield and shouts, virtue and elite healing tome skill as compared to warrior’s just 3 shouts or just regen banner, and they even have stability also, and granting a bunch of protection as well. Warrior bunker line need some kinds of buffs for this reason.

1. a longer fury duration doesn’t seem unfair but at the same time is it need. Also every class can do a burst of damage in 3 second which fury can greatly effect.

2. warrior aren’t the only class with condition to boon cleansing abilities and no warhorn shouldn’t be usable while CCed

more importantly you dont even know that fury has granted among many conds, utilizing only 3sec of fury is like that you have to know fury has been granted after conversion but sadly warhorn conversion is totally random so you mostly dont even know what is converted. Longer fury duration is in need for this reason as well.

What is wrong with you and warhorn?

Kitt.2567:

I can understand your 2nd point but about 1st point, do you consider warhorn conversion is totally random conversion that we cannot select what we want to convert and those thief and guardian does not always inflict only blind at one time upon us? For guardian they spam pretty much burning and for thief probly poison not just blind. So converting fury by using warhorn ON PURPOSE is pretty much impossible, or you just stand and do nothing until get blind to convert only? Therefore longer fury duration is needed as it is hard to just sit down and wait for blind. 3sec is just too short, and warhorn skill def have cooltime.

1. See Thief use Black Powder (very obvious, they kittenING DISAPPEAR afterwards)
2. Run into Black Powder for 2s to get Blinded.
3. Use Warhorn
4. Get Fury.

It’s very easy to do if you know anything about the skills of your opponent. A D/P Thief has two primary means of blinding you through Black Powder and Shadow Shot, both of which are easy to spot.

The same applies to Guardian, as their Blinds come from the Sword teleport, the the Focus attack and GS leap.

And warhorn skills does not convert stun or daze effect into boons, they are cc but not conditions, only fear that necro would do into boons. they pretty much spam fear actually with many other conditions, including corrupt boons that convert all boons into cond. Even though fear is applied and if we could use warhorn while in fear, you dont know which cond warhorn would convert, fear shoudlnt be always first one to be converted, as it is totally random conversion that game system determine.

The thing is, you can’t set a priority for cleansing like that. For someone, cleansing Bleeding before anything else is priority. For another, it could be Poison. In some cases, it’ll be Fear.

Warhorn is bunker line weapon, and this bunker job need stability by any chance but sadly no for warrior, yes for guardian unless you sacrifice one shout into balanced stance. Meanwhile, guardian heal a lot more than warrior’s do with their staffs and mace shield and shouts, virtue and elite healing tome skill as compared to warrior’s just 3 shouts or just regen banner, and they even have stability also, and granting a bunch of protection as well. Warrior bunker line need some kinds of buffs for this reason

You’re not looking at this from the right perspective. Guardian bunkers with boons, because that’s how they support their team. Warriors support their team with DPS and offensive boons, so their bunkering has to come from somewhere else, otherwise you end up with Warriors having every boon under the sun.

One thing for sure is that you REALLY are in love with the warhorn for some reason…

I guess sometimes you blow the warhorn, and sometimes the warhorn… well. You understand.

Olba.5376:

This would be a particularly nasty problem against Sword Guardians and D/P Thieves, since you could pretty much cleanse blinds at a pace where the conversion would give you permanent Fury.

No you couldn’t. Cooldowns exist, and the warhorn has two abilities. At most, you can get 6 seconds of fury by using both abilities.
edit: bit of a kitten on my part, you’re saying IF it gave 9sec of fury, you’d easily get 100% uptime. My bad.