Guild Wars 2

I’d imagine buffed shout heals + healing signet would be one tanky mother kitten (unless you get poisoned ofc).

Oraith.1732:

I’d imagine buffed shout heals + healing signet would be one tanky mother kitten (unless you get poisoned ofc).

It already is tanky. I think the idea is to make the support it does for the group a bit better.

Oraith.1732:

I’d imagine buffed shout heals + healing signet would be one tanky mother kitten (unless you get poisoned ofc).

Rune of the Soldier and bye bye Poison! Let’s mass heal!!

There will be nothing we won’t be awesome at. ANet clearly play warrior and I’m just waiting for them to add a skill that grants perma stealth.

it won’t be tanky as bunker guardian but it can be a pretty good support build
only if theres other support bd of other class thats being also buffed and better.

Shout heals are still puny compared to the healing output of Guardians just with dodge heal. If a 15% healing increase makes us “awesome” heal support then we must have been pretty darn good before…but we weren’t even close.

Yaki.9563:

Shout heals are still puny compared to the healing output of Guardians just with dodge heal. If a 15% healing increase makes us “awesome” heal support then we must have been pretty darn good before…but we weren’t even close.

So your complaining. Interesting. Why don’t you send all of the Anet devs a mail, asking for a special line of code that lets everyone get the “15% buff” as you called it except your character. Because honestly, what sense does it make to compare yourself to the profession that is designed to be best at a certain aspect, then complain that if your not on that level, why bother. If you want to support like a guardian, then go play one. But do not complain that you cannot out guardian a guardian.

coglin.1867:

Yaki.9563:

Shout heals are still puny compared to the healing output of Guardians just with dodge heal. If a 15% healing increase makes us “awesome” heal support then we must have been pretty darn good before…but we weren’t even close.

So your complaining. Interesting. Why don’t you send all of the Anet devs a mail, asking for a special line of code that lets everyone get the “15% buff” as you called it except your character. Because honestly, what sense does it make to compare yourself to the profession that is designed to be best at a certain aspect, then complain that if your not on that level, why bother. If you want to support like a guardian, then go play one. But do not complain that you cannot out guardian a guardian.

I’m not complaining, I’m just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that people are making saying that all of a sudden warriors will be amazing heal support. Warriors were crap heal support before and they are still crap heal support. That’s not a complaint that’s simply a statement of opinion.

I’m kind of upset I’ll need 30 points to get empower allies and my traited warhorn =|
Unless they are moving both the shout and warhorn recharges to 10 points, which I don’t see happening.

I’m sort of surprised. I thought our shout-healing-builds were already in a good place. I wasn’t expecting them to get buffed. In truth, I don’t think it was really needed even.

Dand.8231:

I’m sort of surprised. I thought our shout-healing-builds were already in a good place. I wasn’t expecting them to get buffed. In truth, I don’t think it was really needed even.

ANet’s Reasoning is beyond comprehension. Take a quick look at every other class sub-forums and no1 understands why the Warrior was buffed for uncalled skills!

Oraith.1732:

I’d imagine buffed shout heals + healing signet would be one tanky mother kitten (unless you get poisoned ofc).

You do not play WvW. Shout heal spec was already an OP zerg spec. This will make it ridiculous in a good way. I’m excited.

Its incredible for how much you can burst heal with Shouts. Their heal scaling was already one of the best in the game and it just got better.
I’m getting about ~3200 heal per shout now in full clerics.

I think the best part of it is being able to pick up reduced Shout Recharge AND The Warhorn cond conversion trait.

Humbolio.2174:

There will be nothing we won’t be awesome at. ANet clearly play warrior and I’m just waiting for them to add a skill that grants perma stealth.

THIS is so true lol

At leas they know how to scale warriors heals the changes to Necro’s siphon is a joke.

Astos.3609:

Its incredible for how much you can burst heal with Shouts. Their heal scaling was already one of the best in the game and it just got better.
I’m getting about ~3200 heal per shout now in full clerics.

I think the best part of it is being able to pick up reduced Shout Recharge AND The Warhorn cond conversion trait.

That is just crazy. Warriors can take three shouts at 20/20/24 sec CD which like you say heal for 3200 each with cleric gear. Thats about 10k AoE heal every 24 sec. Thats more than most classes can heal themselves per 24 sec. It’s just OP and I really don’t understand how they could give an already very powerful class such insane healing support on such low CD.
There were classes like ranger and some others who really lacked support in zerg fights. Why buff one of the already most welcome classes in WvW and PvE and ignore the classes which are considered useless in these areas?

And you forgot to mention Shrug It Off! which is another healing shouts every 30 seconds! (but you need 2 condis to proc it though)

Arpheus.6918:

Astos.3609:

Its incredible for how much you can burst heal with Shouts. Their heal scaling was already one of the best in the game and it just got better.
I’m getting about ~3200 heal per shout now in full clerics.

I think the best part of it is being able to pick up reduced Shout Recharge AND The Warhorn cond conversion trait.

That is just crazy. Warriors can take three shouts at 20/20/24 sec CD which like you say heal for 3200 each with cleric gear. Thats about 10k AoE heal every 24 sec. Thats more than most classes can heal themselves per 24 sec. It’s just OP and I really don’t understand how they could give an already very powerful class such insane healing support on such low CD.
There were classes like ranger and some others who really lacked support in zerg fights. Why buff one of the already most welcome classes in WvW and PvE and ignore the classes which are considered useless in these areas?

LOL. I’ve got a ranger and a warrior. I’m overjoyed for my cleric warrior and so crushed for my ranger. Confused.

just tried, don’t think its much different, no utility, no stability, and 30 points in just for 3 of them. 2 soldier shake it off still won’t get you away with conditions. use other shouts for clean will just take away your damage. any other utility will make it even more useless

and i’ve seen way more warhorn warrior then shouts.

LHound.8964:

ANet’s Reasoning is beyond comprehension. Take a quick look at every other class sub-forums and no1 understands why the Warrior was buffed for uncalled skills!

style.6173:

Shout heal spec was already an OP zerg spec. This will make it ridiculous in a good way. I’m excited.

While I reserve the right to change my mind after I actually test them out later, on paper, shout specs look like they just became pretty OP…

This makes me quite sad. Ever since the last Major Warrior balance patch, wherein they buffed the #6 button, and reworked zerker stance, the class felt like it was right where it should be.

I’m concerned, however, that this might be a case of overtuning. On the plus side, this will actually drive people into new builds besides Skullcrack/100b.

IMO what the Warrior really needs is not a direct numerical buff, but a tweaking of some weapon skills (GS Burst, Axe 2,4,5) and some of our oddball traits. Not to mention the usual bugfixes (I’m looking at you GS #5 Rush….. I’m always looking at you)

shout warrior with hammer and axe/shield was like the best build for wvw roaming and zergfights (no axe/shield here but same traitlines so i just need to switch weapons and the shield trait) at the same time before already and now it got buffed shout heal haha

i am so immortal while using zerker gear now
no idea why anet buffed this xD

Oni Link.4621:

And you forgot to mention Shrug It Off! which is another healing shouts every 30 seconds! (but you need 2 condis to proc it though)

Can anyone confirm if Shrug It Off actually procs the heal if you have healing shouts trait? I’m not sure either way!

Humbolio.2174:

There will be nothing we won’t be awesome at. ANet clearly play warrior and I’m just waiting for them to add a skill that grants perma stealth.

Your text is so hilarious. Not so long ago it was “ANet clearly doesn’t play warrior”.

Gutts.8791:

Oni Link.4621:

And you forgot to mention Shrug It Off! which is another healing shouts every 30 seconds! (but you need 2 condis to proc it though)

Can anyone confirm if Shrug It Off actually procs the heal if you have healing shouts trait? I’m not sure either way!

Yes, it procs!

Nuorus.8415:

Humbolio.2174:

There will be nothing we won’t be awesome at. ANet clearly play warrior and I’m just waiting for them to add a skill that grants perma stealth.

Your text is so hilarious. Not so long ago it was “ANet clearly doesn’t play warrior”.

I play warrior and honestly I never had an issue in the past when we were pretty sucky in PvP – because I don’t play PvP.

As such the recent buffs and variety of useful and effective builds is all good by me, and the commentary from ANET themselves only goes to show this.

Sadly I also think there will be that day that always happens, ANET will get bored of warrior, try another class, realise how crap it is and buff it silly while needing the warriors that keep owning them.

Then in 9 month time, they will have returned to warrior and started to buff it again. So long as they don’t touch my rifle, I’m happy (there’s also the level 80 for all other class types to fall back on lol)

Astos.3609:

Its incredible for how much you can burst heal with Shouts. Their heal scaling was already one of the best in the game and it just got better.
I’m getting about ~3200 heal per shout now in full clerics.

Yet you are otherwise 100% useless. Compare to say, Guardian, which can do 2000 heal per dodge every 5s and provide lots of utility in addition to the other heal sources they give like regen, symbols, virtue of resolve, staff empower, etc.

Cleric warrior, lulz.

Arpheus.6918:

Astos.3609:

Its incredible for how much you can burst heal with Shouts. Their heal scaling was already one of the best in the game and it just got better.
I’m getting about ~3200 heal per shout now in full clerics.

I think the best part of it is being able to pick up reduced Shout Recharge AND The Warhorn cond conversion trait.

That is just crazy. Warriors can take three shouts at 20/20/24 sec CD which like you say heal for 3200 each with cleric gear. Thats about 10k AoE heal every 24 sec. Thats more than most classes can heal themselves per 24 sec.

Guardian heals for that much every 24 seconds just from dodging. And they provided lots of other heals as well. And it doesn’t use up all their utility skills, so they are actually useful.

Yaki.9563:

Astos.3609:

Its incredible for how much you can burst heal with Shouts. Their heal scaling was already one of the best in the game and it just got better.
I’m getting about ~3200 heal per shout now in full clerics.

Yet you are otherwise 100% useless. Compare to say, Guardian, which can do 2000 heal per dodge every 5s and provide lots of utility in addition to the other heal sources they give like regen, symbols, virtue of resolve, staff empower, etc.

Cleric warrior, lulz.

Yeah but you don’t need full cleric. You can go condi damage/healing power too.

Can anyone point me a link to this updated healshout warrior build? Been hearing this often and no one can share with me the build.

Thx in advance.

bump would like to see that build as well.

basics for shoutheal is ofc 30 in tactics with lung capacity, vigorous shouts and then either leg specialist, empower allies or shrug it off
depenging on the situation (1vs1/zergfights/…)

the other traits depend on which weapons you want to use