Guild Wars 2

Caedmon.6798:

I dont know what tier youre fighting in.But i roam with 2 – 3 people mostly only fighting outmanned where about everyone is condi and otherwise being chased by a condi blob.Where doing these fights without condi cleanse it being a massive pain in the ass if resists are on cd.Even with cleansin ire,theres just so kitten much condi in wvw currently its hardly any fun either imo.Im hoping the xpack will switch things up,but i doubt.

Tiers don’t really mean anything in wvw anymore. Condi is everywhere, and I roam solo, harass blobs, and regularly 1vx.

Our other tools include buckets of resistance, other clears (traits and/or skills), blocks, evades (LS helps with that), mobility, gear (sigils, runes), food, and positioning. Being able to kill your enemy quickly helps a lot too.

That isnt really the issue Choppy.The issue is Everyone and his mother running condi spec thus it being a struggle uphill to fight vs “Proper” condi players without cleanse and not the random baddie here and there.

Caedmon.6798:

That isnt really the issue Choppy.The issue is Everyone and his mother running condi spec thus it being a struggle uphill to fight vs “Proper” condi players without cleanse and not the random baddie here and there.

His claim was that Cleansing Ire is used more than Fast Hands in pvp and that just isn’t the case. The rest of what you and I have been discussing is evidence about just how important CI is. It seems to me that, if I can regularly succeed while outnumbered in a high condi environment like wvw without the trait, then it can’t be that important.

Powerful and useful, absolutely, but not mandatory.