Guild Wars 2

raven.9870:

warrior is good to do everything your be able to do it with it..
if you pretend to push some button and kill people, well you are wrong..if you didn’t notice the game has a different way to play, is much more action..no point target and run in is direction with a simple click..i kill 104 player just with warrrior in an afternoon..after 3 day as newgamer..(i played gw1)..you have to move,smash,dodge,bleed..but first of all..you cant just stand still in the middle of the battle like a fool and pretend to survive..you have to count on toher commarades..retreat when are more then you can andle..

So, play like a thief, but without all the cool toys which allow them to be effective?

raven.9870:

don’t complain a class just because is not epic enoug as you espected, this is not gw1, open your mind a play…whenthis game starts? septermber?..kittent we have loads of time..and arenanet will imporve change nerf bilions of times alla the classes..so just sit on your chair and play..have fun..don’t complain..support

Did you read the new class descriptions? They basically came out and said their design goal for warriors is to leave players feeling gimp.

Ansultares.1567:

Did you read the new class descriptions? They basically came out and said their design goal for warriors is to leave players feeling gimp.

No they didn’t, you’re just overly sensitive.

What is a Warrior good at?

Well, since you asked, Warriors are very good in PvE.

Bad players got to complain. I left the game for about a month now come back and see people still Q_Qing about warriors. Let me tell ya this, I PvE/PvP/WvW on my warrior I do incredibly well on all 3 with my warrior. I also own some other 80s but none of them give me the versatility and plain raw power my warrior gives me.

WvW wise I can kill anyone one on one, can destroy people in multiple enemies vs me alone. I can solo supply camps without breaking a sweat and can two man towers if they aren’t massively defended of course, this is referring to the tower npcs themselves." A well spec defensive warrior can completely go through a dungeon exploration mode without dying at all “There are some exceptions of course” he can bring additional dps boost and heals with either shouts or banners.

I never use bolas or frenzy I use an axe and a shield with a Great sword for bursting. Greatsword skill #5 seems to still be buggy while searching for target and the burst skill is still too low damage with no good effects to add to it but all other skills in the great sword are amazing if used correctly timed correctly and over all used the way a pro can use them. The over all reality is, warrior isn’t for everyone. Ask your doctor if you are 1337 enough for it. If you aren’t then go play an elementalist and convince yourself elemental dancing take skills lol.

Brienson.7319:

Braxxus.2904:

I mean have you even watched the warrior forums? People have been going round and round trying every blasted weapon set, every blasted spec idea, every gimmicky thing.

have you seen any class forum? literally every one except thief is a total pity party of people arguing that the class is the worst in the game, needs a total overhaul+buffs, and that it is outclassed by [class xyz] in every way possible.

it’s the most pathetic display of whining i have ever seen in any video game. all everyone does is kittening complain.

warrior is fine, shut the hell up and learn to play.

QFT. Warrior is fine. People need to learn to man up and learn to play their class. I have 5 lvl 80’s (warrior, guardian, mesmer, thief, and necromancer), and so far warrior is my second favorite class right after mesmer.

The amount of builds and weapon combos is nearly unparalleled. I think only mesmer outstrips the warrior in terms of build combinations, but even then has nowhere near the variety in weapon set and AOE control and condition removal. Necromancers essentially only have 3 viable builds, thieves tend to be very squishy unless they spec for stealth (like I do), and guardians have iffy mobility if they’re not specced just right, or if they’re an AH tank.

I think people forget that builds are about tradeoffs. If you build for DPS, OF COURSE you lose some toughness or vitality. If you build tanky, OF COURSE you’re going to lose some DPS. Duh.

If you build for Shouts, you lose some control (unless you grab hammer, mace, and/or shield). If you build for Physical utilities, you’ll gain control but lose condition removal and some boons (unless you build with warhorn). If you build for Signets, you’ll gain absurd crit chance and useful (but selfish) utilities but you lose a lot of stun-breakers (not much you can do in that case).

What did you guys think? That you were going to be able to cruise around with 30k health & 3.5k armor while critting for 2800 a hit, all while having stuns and shouts to remove conditions? Reality check please.

CrazyAce.3842:

QFT. Warrior is fine. People need to learn to man up and learn to play their class. I have 5 lvl 80’s (warrior, guardian, mesmer, thief, and necromancer), and so far warrior is my second favorite class right after mesmer.

Yes because being 80 actually means something when everyone is 80 in PvP.

CrazyAce.3842:

The amount of builds and weapon combos is nearly unparalleled. .

I was about to comment on this but then noticed you didn’t say the builds were effective.

Here’s your reality check: GS + x/shield or gtfo. Everything else falls shorter than our current best that isn’t even top tier ready.

PvE is not to be talked about when it comes to balance. Yes, WvW = PvE also. We’re all beastly PvE heros and WvW zerglings I’m sure.

CrazyAce.3842:

The amount of builds and weapon combos is nearly unparalleled.

Oh? Equip something that’s not a GS, and don’t use a shield. Enter tournament PvP. See what happens.

I dare you.

^ I love GS, but the fact its our best weapon makes me not want to use it =\

CoaxialMazer.9140:

^ I love GS, but the fact its our best weapon makes me not want to use it =\

The other Warrior weapons would be awesome if only their respective traits weren’t so sucky.

Warrior’s trait tree is so counter-intuitive and sloppy. "In order to get the most out of a hammer, you must totally gimp your traits and be useless! Thumbs up!!!!’

HeIIIIII no.

lmao
I agree so much, but the biggest problem is that the warriors biggest specialization for damage is weapon swap and abuse two different sets of gear to do our jobs, but the sad thing is most weapon traits in the trait tree that compliment each other are usually in different trees or not even on the same trait like on other classes. I almost feel inclined to run 30 in tactics for boon duration to get a balance of everything (might/fury/swiftness). Cause without em, i feel like we lose so much that makes a warrior, a warrior…. i still don’t get why they want warriors to be the best at weapon swapping when its mediocre at best when usually most people don’t swap often enough to prioritize the potential of it (not that i see it that amazing unless someone can prove me of its usefulness beyond that of escaping or choosing when to go offensive or defensive or ranged faster).

Perhaps the only thing more annoying than people making the same old argument about Warrior’s state in top tier tPvP when anyone brings up Warrior being good in any type of play is the only argument against these people being “learn to play”.

Personally, I think weapon swapping is overrated. It has its uses and fast hands should probably be baked into the class, but it shouldn’t be the focus.

Personally, I want Warrior to get access to the different auras.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aura

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Chaos_Armor

These by far makes being in melee much more effective/rewarding then what we have access to currently. I would rather that have been our focus. It would help the warrior with its aggressive “in yo face” playstyle.

Excluding magnetic aura, we have that with traits. Fire aura can be gain from bow, but that’s not really defensive.

I completely agree with you Akumu, Its like we were supposed to be in yo face (but with no real defense against damage besides toughness and endure pain)* and compliment that with half kitten condition removals compared to other classes. I think auras don’t really match warriors that much but its better than nothing, but i think a way to get stability and protection would be more warrior like. I still will take anything that can make a warrior more effective at getting in your face with all the terrible ways of kiting a warrior. Really don’t know why we got no way to get protection, not even through banners =\

For those who say we have stability is right, but i meant that we should have access to stability other than just utility skills.

*Endure pain is 3 sec instead of 5 and its ungodly cd of 90 sec is totally horrendous without a way to even reduce it.

What warrior is good at? Nothing…. if you are able to do nothing.

Problem is you, not warrior. Warrior is a tool, success or not is based on mostly the one who is controlling. What is the best of being a warrior? Tactics, well the tactics line for sure is very good, but what i mean is your mind, use tactics, surprise elements, read your enemy, create a blind spot for your enemy, use elemental advantage, use allies…

This is a game require teamwork, don’t expect to faceroll other player with half a brain… Warrior class mechanics is rather straight forward but with good hands and mind, warrior can be as trick as hell.

Crossaber.8934:

What warrior is good at? Nothing…. if you are able to do nothing.

Problem is you, not warrior. Warrior is a tool, success or not is based on mostly the one who is controlling. What is the best of being a warrior? Tactics, well the tactics line for sure is very good, but what i mean is your mind, use tactics, surprise elements, read your enemy, create a blind spot for your enemy, use elemental advantage, use allies…

This is a game require teamwork, don’t expect to faceroll other player with half a brain… Warrior class mechanics is rather straight forward but with good hands and mind, warrior can be as trick as hell.

I don’t want to be mean but, can you please explain how tricky can we be? We don’t got stealth/clones/second health bar/multiple attunements/massive movespeed. We got burst skills and fast weapon switching, which is why i say its funny how our specialization for weapon swap is kinda weird. I think it can be sneaky and tricky, but more often its not that amazing or dynamic. Warrior skills are far easier to read and can’t really create as many openings as you say. I agree that a players skill is the most important aspect in the game, but you can’t deny that the warrior (class) is in need of some rework or looking over.

I got to the part where Ranger and Engineer are better than Warrior.

NinjaSonic.1392:

I got to the part where Ranger and Engineer are better than Warrior.

well since the small buffs rangers are actually pretty good atm. they can be rather tanky, deal a very solid amount of condition damage, or be one of those pet switching power builds, all viable. (partially also due to the fact that their pets can almost insta rez them now lol)

unlike the warrior, who can be a high damage dealing burst spec and thats all thats viable atm.

but engineer? yeah… no lol

Kapoun.1702:

*Why have warrior support dps / cc while there are many better choices with more dps and survivability, like rifle engineer ?.

Hahahawhat? Kitten you. Engineer is near-useless right now, and their rifle DPS is reduced by design to do less than other classes. Seriously, it’s right in the most recent class design blog. “Penalty to main-hand damage.”