Where now for my warrior?
Right now, the pure damage spec (axe/shield + GS) is pretty much gone. The main options are adding CC (hammer , mace) or adding range/condi (longbow, sword).
If you want to solo and be tanky you need to gear to have conditions fall off you so you can keep that beautiful knights gear.
Here’s what I have, and I have been WvW’ing effectively as a solo type with an occasional buddy.
All knights gear. The new meta, as you might have read on other posts, is Greatsword, Mace/Shield.
The key here are three pieces for conditions; Dogged March in defense, Lemongrass food (-40% condition duration), and either Melandru Runes or Hoelbrak Runes. I prefer Hoelbrak because it knocks down condition duration 20% AND gives might stack duration increase that goes very well with the Greatsword 20 trait in Arms. 20% + 33% +40% = 93% condition duration reduction on immobilizes. That is simply huge. The other stuff bounces off as well; 60% is nothing to laugh about.
You have some choices to make; in order to gain adrenaline the best way as I see it is to pick up cleansing ire anyways. You might ask why would you do that when you have conditions bounce off; well, it’s not for that really; it’s for the adrenaline gain. And, you get burst mastery to make it so you can switch every 5 seconds and land that skullcrack immediately and not be pressed for adrenaline. You COULD go with missile reflection, which I personally have used. Hilarious when you make a warrior with a rifle shoot themselves for 14k (yes I did that) or have a mesmer render phantasms on themselves.
You get 3k armor even with Hoelbrak instead of Melandru.
The 20 mark in Discipline is up for debate as well. I personally run with Destruction of the Empowered since I just go with Balanced Stance instead of Dolyak since I don’t have signet mastery. It’s debatable honestly. I sometimes switch it so SoR is up faster but with Unsuspecting Foe (10 in arms) you crit like crazy when the opponent is stunned.
You also need Berserker’s Stance against thieves and necros. You might say conditions bounce off you; however, the smart necros eat food that increases condition duration by 40% so it will be challenging without it. Berserker’s stance eats through the thief’s blind and the necro’s conditions. It’s great to pop when you want to win. Oh, and engineer’s that use the pistol suffer as well.
The spec and gear.
FYI – THIS IS NOT MY SPEC. This has been crafted by many smart and competent warriors on previous posts (like BurrKing). I’ve just added my two cents to it to fit my personal playstyle.
(edited by Tyrion.4259)
If you want to solo and be tanky you need to gear to have conditions fall off you so you can keep that beautiful knights gear.
Here’s what I have, and I have been WvW’ing effectively as a solo type with an occasional buddy.
All knights gear. The new meta, as you might have read on other posts, is Greatsword, Mace/Shield.
The key here are three pieces for conditions; Dogged March in defense, Lemongrass food (-40% condition duration), and either Melandru Runes or Hoelbrak Runes. I prefer Hoelbrak because it knocks down condition duration 20% AND gives might stack duration increase that goes very well with the Greatsword 20 trait in Arms. 20% + 33% +40% = 93% condition duration reduction on immobilizes. That is simply huge. The other stuff bounces off as well; 60% is nothing to laugh about.
You have some choices to make; in order to gain adrenaline the best way as I see it is to pick up cleansing ire anyways. You might ask why would you do that when you have conditions bounce off; well, it’s not for that really; it’s for the adrenaline gain. And, you get burst mastery to make it so you can switch every 5 seconds and land that skullcrack immediately and not be pressed for adrenaline. You COULD go with missile reflection, which I personally have used. Hilarious when you make a warrior with a rifle shoot themselves for 14k (yes I did that) or have a mesmer render phantasms on themselves.
You get 3k armor even with Hoelbrak instead of Melandru.
The 20 mark in Discipline is up for debate as well. I personally run with Destruction of the Empowered since I just go with Balanced Stance instead of Dolyak since I don’t have signet mastery. It’s debatable honestly. I sometimes switch it so SoR is up faster but with Unsuspecting Foe (10 in arms) you crit like crazy when the opponent is stunned.
You also need Berserker’s Stance against thieves and necros. You might say conditions bounce off you; however, the smart necros eat food that increases condition duration by 40% so it will be challenging without it. Berserker’s stance eats through the thief’s blind and the necro’s conditions. It’s great to pop when you want to win. Oh, and engineer’s that use the pistol suffer as well.
The spec and gear.
FYI – THIS IS NOT MY SPEC. This has been crafted by many smart and competent warriors on previous posts (like BurrKing). I’ve just added my two cents to it to fit my personal playstyle.
Wouls this build als be suitable in endgame pve? Roght now my warrior has abeserkee trait build 30/0/0/30/10
And im goong to seg up with knights armor instead of berserkers but should i switch to the build you posted instead? Like op im also looking for an evenly balanced build for survival thanks for help
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
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I really don’t like that 0/20/20/0/30 build. I don’t use my burst skills, I prefer to build around regen with max adrenaline. It also lacks the 10% damage increase for greatsword.
I really don’t like that 0/20/20/0/30 build. I don’t use my burst skills, I prefer to build around regen with max adrenaline. It also lacks the 10% damage increase for greatsword.
I thought so too initially, but the Max adrenaline traits got shuffled so that you can only take 2/3. Also berserker power and heightened focus currently are bugged and do not provide the 15% they are supposed to. So overall sitting on adrenaline builds got nerfed hard from last patch and I would reconsider a burst build for this patch.
I really don’t like that 0/20/20/0/30 build. I don’t use my burst skills, I prefer to build around regen with max adrenaline. It also lacks the 10% damage increase for greatsword.
I thought so too initially, but the Max adrenaline traits got shuffled so that you can only take 2/3. Also berserker power and heightened focus currently are bugged and do not provide the 15% they are supposed to. So overall sitting on adrenaline builds got nerfed hard from last patch and I would reconsider a burst build for this patch.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
Well best of luck in your other game. I hope you can adapt there.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I have a feeling no matter what class you play, you would not be happy.
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
How is this build compared to berserkerz 30/0/0/30/10 in terms of damage? Still decent? Or way too low? I would
appreciate an answer thanks!
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I have a feeling no matter what class you play, you would not be happy.
Not in this game, no. In every other MMO I’ve played, class balance was better than this. Each of my 80s has had its build destroyed by unjustified, pointless nerfs… but go ahead and defend that.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
Well best of luck in your other game. I hope you can adapt there.
Adapt? I play these games for fun. When it stops being fun because I’m being funnelled into doing something I don’t want to do, why should I continue to play? Adapting is something you HAVE to do in order to survive. MMOs are supposed to be an escape from reality, not an extension of it.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I have a feeling no matter what class you play, you would not be happy.
Not in this game, no. In every other MMO I’ve played, class balance was better than this. Each of my 80s has had its build destroyed by unjustified, pointless nerfs… but go ahead and defend that.
I hope you realize they they pretty much nerfed classes across the board (except for necros and maybe thiefs). Warrior is one of the tougher classes to play and I initially felt the same that you did. I loved running axe/shield + GS on a 20/0/20/0/30 and after the patch I felt pretty kitten with that build getting completely destroyed. However after trying to find new builds I ran mace (which I have never before IMHO) and the synergy clicked. In fact I feel stronger now then ever before because mace cc pressure I seen greater then my axe evis pressure ever used to be. Now I can reliably beat regen rangers, guardians and even necros that was never really possible before. So before you ditch your warrior, try some of the new builds and maybe you find something you like as well.
Can you guys answer
my question please?
I cind fhe builds provided here very helpful but im not clear about some things that were posed as questions in my post above would anyone kindly answer them for me?
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I have a feeling no matter what class you play, you would not be happy.
Not in this game, no. In every other MMO I’ve played, class balance was better than this. Each of my 80s has had its build destroyed by unjustified, pointless nerfs… but go ahead and defend that.
Yeah, sure. Most MMOs have been crap when it comes to pvp. It took DAOC 4+ years before they even came close and that is considered one of the best pvp games of all time. I would like to see how bad peopel cry when they get hit with 2 minute mezzes and 26 second stuns.
SWG never was, WoW never was, Warhammer never was, SWTOR just sucked, and Rift never was because I played them. They had crazy classes that instant killed others. 10 times worse than thieves. Also, gear made the most different in those games.
In the last few patches, warriors have gotten some very significant buffs.
Dogged march – buff
Warrior sprint – buff
cleansing ire – awesome buff
desperate power – buff
berserker power – semi-buff (overall damage increased but just requires more traits)
sword – buff. Not having final strike on auto chain makes it faster. Final strike now can hurt and used at the right time
berserker stance – huge buff. Not only does it now help vs conditions, they doubled the duration. You can use it and not get conditions, then when you do, you pop a burst skill and cleanse them.
Like I said, you can play any class and you won’t be happy. I for one, love my warrior and can go toe to toe with any class. If I die, it isn’t because the class I died to was better, it was because I made a mistake or the player was better than me, or I simply got zerged. I can live with that considering I die maybe 1-2 in a three hour wvw session.
Why am i being ignored? I have just started a warrior and genuinely need some help…. And i most definately do not find it necessary to create a new thread when my question relates directly to something someone posted here!
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
How is this build compared to berserkerz 30/0/0/30/10 in terms of damage? Still decent? Or way too low? I would
appreciate an answer thanks!
Why am i being ignored? I have just started a warrior and genuinely need some help…. And i most definately do not find it necessary to create a new thread when my question relates directly to something someone posted here!
It would be noticeably lower.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I have a feeling no matter what class you play, you would not be happy.
Not in this game, no. In every other MMO I’ve played, class balance was better than this. Each of my 80s has had its build destroyed by unjustified, pointless nerfs… but go ahead and defend that.
Yeah, sure. Most MMOs have been crap when it comes to pvp. It took DAOC 4+ years before they even came close and that is considered one of the best pvp games of all time. I would like to see how bad peopel cry when they get hit with 2 minute mezzes and 26 second stuns.
SWG never was, WoW never was, Warhammer never was, SWTOR just sucked, and Rift never was because I played them. They had crazy classes that instant killed others. 10 times worse than thieves. Also, gear made the most different in those games.
In the last few patches, warriors have gotten some very significant buffs.
Dogged march – buff
Warrior sprint – buff
cleansing ire – awesome buff
desperate power – buff
berserker power – semi-buff (overall damage increased but just requires more traits)
sword – buff. Not having final strike on auto chain makes it faster. Final strike now can hurt and used at the right time
berserker stance – huge buff. Not only does it now help vs conditions, they doubled the duration. You can use it and not get conditions, then when you do, you pop a burst skill and cleanse them.Like I said, you can play any class and you won’t be happy. I for one, love my warrior and can go toe to toe with any class. If I die, it isn’t because the class I died to was better, it was because I made a mistake or the player was better than me, or I simply got zerged. I can live with that considering I die maybe 1-2 in a three hour wvw session.
Are you actually suggesting Guild Wars 2 has better PvP than DAOC and Warhammer Online? That’s hilarious. Seriously? Sorry, still laughing here.
I play this game because it’s active, but there have been far superior games in terms of mass-scale PvP. And I played DAOC from the start… the game had over thirty different classes by the end, and they were still balanced better than the classes in this game.
You’re happy because your berserker build got buffed, so everyone should be happy? This game has had problems from the start with favouring offence over defence. It really baffles me that they continue to buff all-out-damage and nerf balanced builds, on most of the classes.
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
How is this build compared to berserkerz 30/0/0/30/10 in terms of damage? Still decent? Or way too low? I would
appreciate an answer thanks!Why am i being ignored? I have just started a warrior and genuinely need some help…. And i most definately do not find it necessary to create a new thread when my question relates directly to something someone posted here!
It would be noticeably lower.
Okay thanks =)
Then is it possible to run a beserker build with survivalists gear? Basically i want to keep high dps while maintaininh a good defence (toughness+vitality) and i dont want to rely on dodging^^
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
How is this build compared to berserkerz 30/0/0/30/10 in terms of damage? Still decent? Or way too low? I would
appreciate an answer thanks!Why am i being ignored? I have just started a warrior and genuinely need some help…. And i most definately do not find it necessary to create a new thread when my question relates directly to something someone posted here!
It would be noticeably lower.
Okay thanks =)
Then is it possible to run a beserker build with survivalists gear? Basically i want to keep high dps while maintaininh a good defence (toughness+vitality) and i dont want to rely on dodging^^
You kinda have to dodge..
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
How is this build compared to berserkerz 30/0/0/30/10 in terms of damage? Still decent? Or way too low? I would
appreciate an answer thanks!Why am i being ignored? I have just started a warrior and genuinely need some help…. And i most definately do not find it necessary to create a new thread when my question relates directly to something someone posted here!
It would be noticeably lower.
Okay thanks =)
Then is it possible to run a beserker build with survivalists gear? Basically i want to keep high dps while maintaininh a good defence (toughness+vitality) and i dont want to rely on dodging^^You kinda have to dodge..
Hmm okay does that imply that beserkers are generally squishy and makea them have to dodge every second?
Hmm okay does that imply that beserkers are generally squishy and makea them have to dodge every second?
You have to dodge because the game is built around dodging as your primary damage mitigation tool. If you build tanky or balanced you’ll still get one or two shot by more difficult enemies if you don’t dodge. So maximizing your damage is the best option, dead enemies deal no damage to you or your allies.
Could be something to shoot for.
Sigil of Paralyzation on mace, whatever you want on shield, and either an on crit proc for GS like Fire or Strength or you can get a flat bonus on stunned/disabled targets by 10%.
How is this build compared to berserkerz 30/0/0/30/10 in terms of damage? Still decent? Or way too low? I would
appreciate an answer thanks!Why am i being ignored? I have just started a warrior and genuinely need some help…. And i most definately do not find it necessary to create a new thread when my question relates directly to something someone posted here!
It would be noticeably lower.
Okay thanks =)
Then is it possible to run a beserker build with survivalists gear? Basically i want to keep high dps while maintaininh a good defence (toughness+vitality) and i dont want to rely on dodging^^You kinda have to dodge..
Hmm okay does that imply that beserkers are generally squishy and makea them have to dodge every second?
No, in this game every class with every armour has to learn to dodge. It’s especially important for PvP and WvW, also some high lvl PvE events.
If you dont want to use burst skills you should make a guardian.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
I have a feeling no matter what class you play, you would not be happy.
Not in this game, no. In every other MMO I’ve played, class balance was better than this. Each of my 80s has had its build destroyed by unjustified, pointless nerfs… but go ahead and defend that.
Yeah, sure. Most MMOs have been crap when it comes to pvp. It took DAOC 4+ years before they even came close and that is considered one of the best pvp games of all time. I would like to see how bad peopel cry when they get hit with 2 minute mezzes and 26 second stuns.
SWG never was, WoW never was, Warhammer never was, SWTOR just sucked, and Rift never was because I played them. They had crazy classes that instant killed others. 10 times worse than thieves. Also, gear made the most different in those games.
In the last few patches, warriors have gotten some very significant buffs.
Dogged march – buff
Warrior sprint – buff
cleansing ire – awesome buff
desperate power – buff
berserker power – semi-buff (overall damage increased but just requires more traits)
sword – buff. Not having final strike on auto chain makes it faster. Final strike now can hurt and used at the right time
berserker stance – huge buff. Not only does it now help vs conditions, they doubled the duration. You can use it and not get conditions, then when you do, you pop a burst skill and cleanse them.Like I said, you can play any class and you won’t be happy. I for one, love my warrior and can go toe to toe with any class. If I die, it isn’t because the class I died to was better, it was because I made a mistake or the player was better than me, or I simply got zerged. I can live with that considering I die maybe 1-2 in a three hour wvw session.
Are you actually suggesting Guild Wars 2 has better PvP than DAOC and Warhammer Online? That’s hilarious. Seriously? Sorry, still laughing here.
I play this game because it’s active, but there have been far superior games in terms of mass-scale PvP. And I played DAOC from the start… the game had over thirty different classes by the end, and they were still balanced better than the classes in this game.
You’re happy because your berserker build got buffed, so everyone should be happy? This game has had problems from the start with favouring offence over defence. It really baffles me that they continue to buff all-out-damage and nerf balanced builds, on most of the classes.
DAOC was a joke. Why do you think 90% of their subscribers left when SWG came out? I promised I would never play a Mythic product. Then Warhammer came out. I said to myself, surely they learned something over the past 10 years. Boy was I wrong, Warhammer pvp was a joke. They made the same classic mistakes. Their idea of RvR was a awful. Zones, AI on NPCs was programed by a 2 year old, and city battles sucked hard (even after the revamp). Marc and that other dude told flat out lies. Why do you think he got fired?
This game is leaps and bounds above them and it is free to play. Those games you paid to get your butt raked over coals.
ps…my build is a defensive build. Probably more defensive than yours. Those zerker builds don’t bother me because they are free kills.
I’d rather not play my warrior at all than play a burst build. I much, much prefer health regen to active heals and the like, and as I said before I don’t want to max dps. I really have no idea why they would NERF people trying to play more balanced builds, instead of the much-complained about full berserker builds. Especially since warriors have never been amazing in WvW.
Hmmm, I think there is a slight misunderstanding in the use of my terms. When I say burst, I mean our F1 skill, but not the overall gameplay style (I.e no bulls rush frenzy 100b). The new patch made our builds focus more on using our F1 skill, while they have still have very balanced stats and even decent sustain (a lot of people argue against that in this forum).
However reading from what you want to achieve, you are looking for passive regen etc. I think the closest to it might be a regen banner build – but most likely your damage is not going to be nearly as good as your balanced build before. In that area, you might be looking at rerolling to a guardian.
No, I understand what burst skills are, I just have no desire to use them.
Likewise with banners. Really, my build was fine before the patch. I had decent health regen and did good damage. Now it’s ruined, for no reason.
And no, I’m not going to play a guardian, I’ll probably find a better game. All three of my 80s have been nerfed badly, and I’m just about through with this.
Well best of luck in your other game. I hope you can adapt there.
Adapt? I play these games for fun. When it stops being fun because I’m being funnelled into doing something I don’t want to do, why should I continue to play? Adapting is something you HAVE to do in order to survive. MMOs are supposed to be an escape from reality, not an extension of it.
All players adapt to all situations where the game changes or classes are balanced for x reason decided. Sure you can quit and go to another game that doesn’t funnel you in one direction how to play but the warrior doesn’t have one direction to play. Anet simply wanted to make burst abilities a key part of the class. You can still play the way you want, though it may not be effective but no one will tell you that you can’t play the way you want. We’ve offered our advice on how to maintain your desired playstyle and gear. You can still make the choice to play and adapt your playstyle to the new and future changes or you can go play a different game.
Honestly, if you wanted to keep your berserker’s power and heightened focus, get them. That will leave you 10 trait points to do what you like. Everyone has a choice.
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DAOC was a joke. Why do you think 90% of their subscribers left when SWG came out? I promised I would never play a Mythic product. Then Warhammer came out. I said to myself, surely they learned something over the past 10 years. Boy was I wrong, Warhammer pvp was a joke. They made the same classic mistakes. Their idea of RvR was a awful. Zones, AI on NPCs was programed by a 2 year old, and city battles sucked hard (even after the revamp). Marc and that other dude told flat out lies. Why do you think he got fired?
This game is leaps and bounds above them and it is free to play. Those games you paid to get your butt raked over coals.
ps…my build is a defensive build. Probably more defensive than yours. Those zerker builds don’t bother me because they are free kills.
Yep, delusional. Most people will agree that DAOC’s PvP was pretty much the best open-world PvP in any MMO, ever. As for the rest of the game: richer and much larger world than any of the new MMOs. The game had a level of complexity that modern MMOs have completely forsaken.
WAR was the second best MMO I’ve played. The only reason that game failed is that EA bought Mythic out. If it had been allowed to be developed properly, the game would have destroyed WoW completely.
Then, we have Guild Wars… things I like about the game: combat feels more fluid than most MMOs, the dodge mechanic is good and it’s often pretty. Things I dislike about it: almost everything else. Like I said, I (and many others) play this game because it’s heavily populated and has no subscription fee. WvW is such a pale shadow of RvR.
Yep, delusional. Most people will agree that DAOC’s PvP was pretty much the best open-world PvP in any MMO, ever. As for the rest of the game: richer and much larger world than any of the new MMOs. The game had a level of complexity that modern MMOs have completely forsaken.
WAR was the second best MMO I’ve played. The only reason that game failed is that EA bought Mythic out. If it had been allowed to be developed properly, the game would have destroyed WoW completely.
Then, we have Guild Wars… things I like about the game: combat feels more fluid than most MMOs, the dodge mechanic is good and it’s often pretty. Things I dislike about it: almost everything else. Like I said, I (and many others) play this game because it’s heavily populated and has no subscription fee. WvW is such a pale shadow of RvR.
Then stop playing? You obviously don’t like the game. Quit griping about it and move on. If you literally like almost nothing about a game, its probably not for you.
Yep, delusional. Most people will agree that DAOC’s PvP was pretty much the best open-world PvP in any MMO, ever. As for the rest of the game: richer and much larger world than any of the new MMOs. The game had a level of complexity that modern MMOs have completely forsaken.
WAR was the second best MMO I’ve played. The only reason that game failed is that EA bought Mythic out. If it had been allowed to be developed properly, the game would have destroyed WoW completely.
Then, we have Guild Wars… things I like about the game: combat feels more fluid than most MMOs, the dodge mechanic is good and it’s often pretty. Things I dislike about it: almost everything else. Like I said, I (and many others) play this game because it’s heavily populated and has no subscription fee. WvW is such a pale shadow of RvR.
Then stop playing? You obviously don’t like the game. Quit griping about it and move on. If you literally like almost nothing about a game, its probably not for you.
Wasting your time. He is like one of those people that claims the good ole days were better.
“We didn’t have as much child abuse back in my day, sunny!”
“No grandpa, you had more, it just didn’t get reported. Now go to your room and change your diaper.”
Well, aside from all the negativity I play GW2 to fit my playstyle of a solo WvW’er and sPvP’er that likes to just control the flow of combat and win when I can.
That requires:
1. Mobility. Mobility. Mobility. That is are #1 form of sustain.
2. CC. CC. CC.
3. Runes, Food, and Dogged March. Condition damage goes to the waste side.
4. Blocking mechanism.
5. High Toughness.
It NOW can be argued that berserker’s stance is our third form of mitigation. It’s fantastic to burst down a blinding thief or a heavy blasting condition necro.
With all that said the build I proposed above grants you that. Some other poster between all the negativity posts asked if this is pve viable. I don’t know; I do very little of it. High end fractal stuff and the like where there are min maxers involved can and will drop you if you aren’t wielding greatsword and axe/mace with the 30/0/0/10/30 build. Otherwise to be straight I believe the player makes it and can manage with the above build I posted.
Also, someone posted not having 25 in arms hurts. Sure but you put sigil of impact on your greatsword and you’ll compensate after a skullcrack full 100blades swing.
I don’t know why anyone would not spec this way unless they insist on using a ranged weapon. It simply dominates. Can’t see the skullcrack coming. You get two forms of a block, you use melandru or holebrak runes with dogged march and lemongrass food. There’s no better spec in my opinion to take any class down.
My kill/death ratio has sky rocketed. Sure I have TONS of hours of play time now so yea that certainly helps when you can mash keys perfectly.
In sPvP (yes I’m serious) I run with Hammer, Mace/Shield and literally stun lock foes to death. The reason I do this is because I don’t have to rely on greatsword to be mobile like in WvW. It’s super fun.
Hammer 5, Hammer 4, F1, Hammer 2, switch to mace/shield, daze swing, shield stun, skull crack. Pretty much over. If you want, start with berserker’s stance.
Pick up endure pain and balanced stance – no need for charge in sPvP really – no gap closing is really that necessary in small areas like most maps.