Guild Wars 2

I don’t get it.

We’ve always had this CC and NOW is the time they cry about?

All of my what..

must be necro’s…

It is because they are not very intelligent. The Warrior is in the same exact spot as it was before the patch for sPvP. Nothing has changed but the fact more Warriors are going to sPvP because they think the Warrior is getting good at it.

The fact remains: The Warrior still has a cheap stun locking build, yes (not as cheap as a blind spam, stealth, instant gib, or condition bomb from 1500 range spec, but still cheap). They are still out done by every class because they have multiple avenues by which to negate damage while the Warrior has very few. Others can get access to damage negation for free (their weapon skills).

You can compare their skills to the Warriors Mace 2 skill if you want, but their skill is a evade with a similar cool down instead of a single block.

They complains about a gimmick build bc they don’t even know to keep distance everytime a warrior switch to mace/shield. Just a bunch of ppl that used to think they r a pro, but in fact carried by class. It the same story as frenzy lol bullrush hb combo. Many of them don’t wear a single stunbreak so i won’t be surprised when someone will take that combo back with evi when they start to stand up.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/It-s-already-happening-nerf-warrior-CC/first

While i don’t like the way this build work its actually does it job – punishing for being in melee range of warrior. Thats how it should be

actually the mace’s stun was increased by 1 second for a stage 3 burst meaning 4 second stuns are commonplace.

which is fine Mace burst is single target. ANd hammer is AOE but very obvious. Warrior CC is fine. At least they have something to run in tourneys now and isn’t as cheap as the Condi sword/shield longbow build.

Good post Vanthian and Scoobaniec. I would love to have a extra for great justice, frenzy or anything in my tool bar but I can’t because I must have a stability or something to survive extreme damage spike when dodge roll isn’t available…

spvpers crying?

About something that has no reason to be cried at?

Wow, that’s something i’d never expect…

/sarcasm

To be fair, the sPvPers crying are the ones who aren’t / haven’t played at a high level.

I would go as far as to say they don’t fully understand the counters and the important of positioning / situational awareness.

Turbo Whale.1738:

actually the mace’s stun was increased by 1 second for a stage 3 burst meaning 4 second stuns are commonplace.

That change was multiple patches ago…not this patch. Only things that changed this patch were Sig of Might, Rampage, and Healing buffs.

Really its more like a person that plays warrior made a pre-emptive thread because he is some people mention warrior cc but from reading it most people aren’t saying its OP. Thats at least what the OP seems to be saying of that thread in the first page. Then of course people chime in and argue over a problem that isn’t really a problem just some people don’t like it.

Defektive.7283:

To be fair, the sPvPers crying are the ones who aren’t / haven’t played at a high level.

I would go as far as to say they don’t fully understand the counters and the important of positioning / situational awareness.

Those are the same people who cried over Eviscerate damage and Bulls, Frenzy, 100b….and look what happened there. lol

Velron.3729:

Defektive.7283:

To be fair, the sPvPers crying are the ones who aren’t / haven’t played at a high level.

I would go as far as to say they don’t fully understand the counters and the important of positioning / situational awareness.

Those are the same people who cried over Eviscerate damage and Bulls, Frenzy, 100b….and look what happened there. lol

Exactly this. The people who are whining are the people who don’t see a massive shockwave (tremor) coming towards them and dodge. Or see your Warr drop the shoulder and go in for the shield bash.

These are the same people that didn’t see bull’s charge coming. Once they stopped watching their keyboards or skill buttons and started watching the game they realised “oh wait, warriors have really telegraphed abilities, I’ll just dodge/move”

Really liking mace/shield + GS build atm. The amount of people who sit through skull crack coz they popped a stunbreaker too soon or simply think it be over soon is amazing. Can easily get a lot of Hundred Blades in. That said, I DO NOT FEEL OP. Not at all. We just have a viable/decent option now.

IDarko.4709:

Really liking mace/shield + GS build atm. The amount of people who sit through skull crack coz they popped a stunbreaker too soon or simply think it be over soon is amazing. Can easily get a lot of Hundred Blades in. That said, I DO NOT FEEL OP. Not at all. We just have a viable/decent option now.

Well, you can apply the stun more often than the stunbreakers. However, I think this build is solid, not OP. You still can’t take down good bunkers alone without some luck or an AWFUL amount of time. And you are still a single target fighter and vulnerable to AoE spam.

I only cry when three warriors and a guardian gang up on me and CC me to death in sPvP. When 1v1?…No. But they’re always interesting fights.

The warrior epitomizes L2P by example in this game. If everyone sucked terribly, as was the case for almost everyone during BWEs, the warrior would dominate (and he did….and people cried). Once people gain knowledge of the game (learn how to play), he’s easily beat.

If you’re crying about the warrior, and you’re not playing a warrior, you should try building your character with abilities that work together. Chances are, you’ve picked things because they sound or look ‘cool’ or you’ve spent an amount of trait points down a line that isn’t divisible by 5.

Warrior is also the ultimate learning class. If you don’t know what to dodge, how to deal with blind, how to position, you’ll get stomped into the ground. Being melee you gotta learn to play on a much granular level then any other class out there.

peter.9024:

Warrior is also the ultimate learning class. If you don’t know what to dodge, how to deal with blind, how to position, you’ll get stomped into the ground. Being melee you gotta learn to play on a much granular level then any other class out there.

He’s not just mostly melee. He’s also the class that has the lowest amount of access to endurance outside of the base 2 dodges. You have only limited weapon skills to avoid damage (ex: 1 block on a longer cooldown than your dodge from 0 endurance). No stealth, no teleport, no body-blocking illusions, extremely limited access (down the precision line) to vigor, and now, no more access to cripple while retreating.

You’ve got to know your fight on a warrior more than any other class if you expect to play more often than run back from spawn.

I do have to say, a good experienced warrior using the stun build alongside the now buffed healing signet is EXTREMELY hard to kill in 1v1. The combination of healing signet/adrenal health/mango pie allows a burst warrior to heal for 700 hps. It is really, really hard to deal 700 dps while avoiding their stuns. You can block/blind/dodge their stuns all day but eventually u run out of dodges and stunbreakers and will take skull crack/100b to the face.

Your tears are delicious!
The age of Guild Warriors 2 has arrived!
I’d laugh if I wasn’t too busy stunlocking your main, all 3 alts, and your entire guild non-stop with a single button!

It’s going to be sorta funny in 2 weeks when everyone remembers what “Breaks Stun” actually means on their utility skills. Like the sound of a thousand facepalms, all slapping at once.

Dand.8231:

Your tears are delicious!
The age of Guild Warriors 2 has arrived!
I’d laugh if I wasn’t too busy stunlocking your main, all 3 alts, and your entire guild non-stop with a single button!

It’s going to be sorta funny in 2 weeks when everyone remembers what “Breaks Stun” actually means on their utility skills. Like the sound of a thousand facepalms, all slapping at once.

hehe

I don’t mind it(as someone who plays against War CC all the time). Just l2p; not that hard to avoid the telegraphs.

Chap just posted this in the sPvP forums

JonathanSharp.7094:

Bear in mind I’m not saying it’s ideal, but for getting a sense of what the PERCEPTION is, the forums are a good place to hear the VOCAL minority and their thoughts (but how many times are there huge opinion threads on a patch even before you guys have played the changes in question….theorycrafting isn’t very accurate…).

We have many other places where we get data, but when it comes to interfacing with a ton of people at once, we often go to the forums to get a quick “pulse check” on what people are thinking. It’s often hyperbole, but it still gives us a sense. We can make up our own minds, we don’t just go to the forums and start making every change we read…

Then the “sifting” process starts, and we separate fact from fiction, fact from opinion, etc.

Players are funny….they don’t want us listening to the forums….but then they can be mad when we don’t listen to their feedback.

WE CAN’T WIN!

I think this shows they have a pretty good grasp on the forums as a whole.

I don’t get it.
None of this is new to warriors.

Don’t warriors have a signet that improves endurance recovery rate by 50%?

It’s like 5 points in Wilderness Survival for Rangers, but you can put points into other things AND it acts as a full condition cleanse on use.

Keyce.8137:

Don’t warriors have a signet that improves endurance recovery rate by 50%?

It’s like 5 points in Wilderness Survival for Rangers, but you can put points into other things AND it acts as a full condition cleanse on use.

The downside of that is it takes up a utility slot and if you use it as a cleanse say bye to your endurance regen until it refreshes. Personally, I would rather put a mere 5 points into a line for the regen alone.

Ashanor.5319:

Keyce.8137:

Don’t warriors have a signet that improves endurance recovery rate by 50%?

It’s like 5 points in Wilderness Survival for Rangers, but you can put points into other things AND it acts as a full condition cleanse on use.

The downside of that is it takes up a utility slot and if you use it as a cleanse say bye to your endurance regen until it refreshes. Personally, I would rather put a mere 5 points into a line for the regen alone.

If all warriors think like you about the active effects of signets, then its no wonder that I destroy them.

The active effect is strong and most very useful in the right situations.

Black Teagan.9215:

Ashanor.5319:

Keyce.8137:

Don’t warriors have a signet that improves endurance recovery rate by 50%?

It’s like 5 points in Wilderness Survival for Rangers, but you can put points into other things AND it acts as a full condition cleanse on use.

The downside of that is it takes up a utility slot and if you use it as a cleanse say bye to your endurance regen until it refreshes. Personally, I would rather put a mere 5 points into a line for the regen alone.

If all warriors think like you about the active effects of signets, then its no wonder that I destroy them.

The active effect is strong and most very useful in the right situations.

To quote your last post:

I hope the nerf it, thiefs have rly no chance against this and they are already weak.

In regards to cc warrior builds. So, what is it then? You own warriors or they own you? You should probably get your story straight.

Now, what are you talking about? I never said it is never to be used, I just said it has a downside as well. I don’t know why I even bother responding, you are obviously just looking to start trouble.