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Our 2-Team Tournaments have been growing in popularity since they were introduced, however very few players are queuing up for the 8-Team Tournament format anymore, due to that. This often means that players can queue up for hours, without an 8-Team Tournament ever kicking off. This is not a good experience, so we’ve decided to disable them. While we may bring back multi-round PvP tournaments in the future, for now we will be discontinuing the 8-Team, 3-Round Tournament format.

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Posted by: Dalgar.6721

Dalgar.6721

At this point isn’t it a little silly to keep calling them Tournaments?

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Posted by: Panda.1793

Panda.1793

O man

15 chars.

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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536

I do appreciate the change, the only downside is that even more pre-mades will be in the single round. The solo experience is already a bit of an uphill climb facing pre-mades half the time. Anytime you add more pre-mades to the mix, the solo queuer is negatively affected.

Not complaining about the change, just the temporary side-effects.

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

So how the heck I’m going to get my free paid tokens??? Come on man

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Posted by: EoNxBoNx.9213

EoNxBoNx.9213

Okay.

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Posted by: MarkPhilips.5169

MarkPhilips.5169

I created a topic about the conversion of 3 round tournament in 1 round tournament and you deleted the 3 round format.

yeah, well done, if a format doesn’t work it’s useless, i agree with that

BUT

Why don’t give the access only to premade team in 1 tournament and only the access for solo queue/duo in the other tournament?

3-4 people what they do? Easy, they complete party in the Mists (better tools “looking for group” to make a party would be appreciate) and go for premade queue.

You solve A LOT of issues doing this.

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Posted by: guza.6170

guza.6170

Our 2-Team Tournaments have been growing in popularity

I needed a good laugh, tnx man.

aka Subl

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Posted by: Frellin.6318

Frellin.6318

If you are looking for ways to bring back 3-round tournaments have you ever thought about a limited window? For example:

- 3 round tournaments happen once every 3 weeks.
- It occurs over a 2 day period: Friday and Saturday. I picked Friday over Sunday to help people who play during the week.
- For those 2 days 2 team tournaments are disabled.
- A new rankings list is created for those who participate in the 3-round tournament.
- After the 2-days the rankings continue to exist till the next 3-round tournament (rinse and repeat). Though keeping records of old tournaments would be nice. See how things and players change over time.
- Offer some unique rewards specific to the 3-round tournaments: skins, titles, whatever.

You could always do a trial period. Give a month notice and pick one day, one Saturday, to have 3-round tournaments. Make GW2 players aware of this day and what the rewards are. Make it clear it is a trial tournament/day to see how it works out.

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Posted by: Dalgar.6721

Dalgar.6721

If you are looking for ways to bring back 3-round tournaments have you ever thought about a limited window? For example:

- 3 round tournaments happen once every 3 weeks.
- It occurs over a 2 day period: Friday and Saturday. I picked Friday over Sunday to help people who play during the week.
- For those 2 days 2 team tournaments are disabled.
- A new rankings list is created for those who participate in the 3-round tournament.
- After the 2-days the rankings continue to exist till the next 3-round tournament (rinse and repeat). Though keeping records of old tournaments would be nice. See how things and players change over time.
- Offer some unique rewards specific to the 3-round tournaments: skins, titles, whatever.

You could always do a trial period. Give a month notice and pick one day, one Saturday, to have 3-round tournaments. Make GW2 players aware of this day and what the rewards are. Make it clear it is a trial tournament/day to see how it works out.

Something like this is what i think of when I see the word “tournament”, its also why I think what we have currently needs a better description. Right now we have SPvP “matches”, save the word “tournament” for something that matters. Be it monthly, quarterly, whatever.

There’s a little competition going on in college basketball right now, you know why its a big deal? Because the teams spent months playing games and working on their rating just for the shot at an invite, and winning it is a pretty big deal.

For this to work rated SPvP matches need to become a thing, but the ratings need to be visible to everyone, not just Anet internally. Let the solo/duo people play in unrated matches, but if people want to play with a full group outside of hot join make them do a rated match.

I don’t even play much SPvP, but its painful to see a game-mode with so much potential for competition just dissolve away less than a year after release. Making the tournaments more meaningful and getting the SPvP community back on track helps the game in the long run, and that’s what I care about. So please Anet, don’t drop the ball here, get things where they need to be asap.

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Posted by: Valkyriez.6578

Valkyriez.6578

Limit the other tournament to 1 round and team que only and limit the current to solo/duo only and bobs ya uncle, you got a legitimate solo/duo and team matchmaking.

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Posted by: Authority.4386

Authority.4386

Okay but pls now separate premades from solo queues. Not fun to paly vs voice-chat premade. Basically it means you are always outnumbered.

Not fun to lose vs ppl who are lame as individuals and only profit from voice-chat advantage.

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Posted by: Kultas Sunstrider.9218

Kultas Sunstrider.9218

Okay but pls now separate premades from solo queues. Not fun to paly vs voice-chat premade. Basically it means you are always outnumbered.

Not fun to lose vs ppl who are lame as individuals and only profit from voice-chat advantage.

totally agree

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Posted by: Rerroll.9083

Rerroll.9083

They already had a separated MMR. Is it so hard to make them 1 round tourneys and disable join as group?

Up Rerroll

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

Good decision! Even when I liked 3-round tournaments where you had different maps each round instead the same one.

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Posted by: Kandi.3701

Kandi.3701

This is Fail, U just kill SPVS now

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Posted by: manveruppd.7601

manveruppd.7601

Good change, but now that there’s only 1 kind of tournament why not reintroduce some map rotation in it? Otherwise serious players who don’t play hotjoin will only be playing 1 map for a whole week, and that’s just boring!!

For those complaining about premades steamrolling you: the hotjoin format was deliberately created with t he solo queuer in mind, so why not practice more in that?

A bad necromancer always blames the corpse.

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

Just call them “quick match” rather than tournaments. Or go on Wikipedia and look for the definition of the word “tournament”.

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Posted by: Quintal.6594

Quintal.6594

Good change, but now that there’s only 1 kind of tournament why not reintroduce some map rotation in it? Otherwise serious players who don’t play hotjoin will only be playing 1 map for a whole week, and that’s just boring!!

For those complaining about premades steamrolling you: the hotjoin format was deliberately created with t he solo queuer in mind, so why not practice more in that?

Hot join doesn’t cap teams at 5, yet the maps are clearly designed for 5v5. When you get more than that it becomes very zergy and much less fun.

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Posted by: JPB.2476

JPB.2476

Just implement solo queue/team queue and I might go back to playing PvP again. It was all I played from launch, got to rank 30 in the first few months (since that time I have gone up 2 ranks..) but as everyone got bored and left due to the lack of support I no longer have a team or a consistent group of friends online to play with. There is no point playing against a pre-made team who are in voice chat, the advantage is so significant.

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Posted by: Velkyn.5168

Velkyn.5168

Nooo, I really liked those!
Have to admit I haven’t played any in the past 3 or 4 weeks, because my new team and me stuck to “practising” in the 2team ones for now, but this was the goal we were working towards to… oh well.

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Posted by: Nilvio.7941

Nilvio.7941

Thanks Arenanet for finally noticing that spvp is dead

English is not my native language :)
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Posted by: guza.6170

guza.6170

Thanks Arenanet for finally noticing that spvp is dead

What, didnt u notice they said 1 rounds are growing in popularity, the game is booming.

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Posted by: cippalippa.6483

cippalippa.6483

This is Fail, U just kill SPVS now

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Posted by: The Rover.1206

The Rover.1206

Our 2-Team Tournaments have been growing in popularity since they were introduced, however very few players are queuing up for the 8-Team Tournament format anymore, due to that. This often means that players can queue up for hours, without an 8-Team Tournament ever kicking off. This is not a good experience, so we’ve decided to disable them. While we may bring back multi-round PvP tournaments in the future, for now we will be discontinuing the 8-Team, 3-Round Tournament format.

The only reason 8-team isn’t popular is because it’s bugged to Abaddon and back.

Ever tried queuing for it? You can’t. It doesn’t work. Unless you build your 5-men team beforehand, you’ll never get in.

I’m sorry ANET, but some times I have to wonder if you’re just making excuses or if you actually play your own game…

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

I just want the free paid tournaments chests back because I still need to get armor from that chest.

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Posted by: Sojo.1405

Sojo.1405

If you could have fixed the queues earlier and added a few features to PvP then this wouldn’t have happened. 8-team is fun for some, but the time commitment to 3 matches plus the hour long queue with the chance to be kicked if the team leader (even in solo-queue) leaves is a mode breaker.

It’s time to focus on PvP ANet or you midaswell start deleting more options….

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Posted by: Tyler Bearce

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I just want the free paid tournaments chests back because I still need to get armor from that chest.

The items from the 8-Team tournament chest were added to the 2-Team tournament chests. So they should all still be obtainable.

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Posted by: NeHoMaR.9812

NeHoMaR.9812

I don’t think a 2 teams match is a “tournament”. The minimum is 4 teams, elimination (2 matches) and a 3rd match with winners. Cross server, by the way, and ranked.

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Posted by: Tolfast.6289

Tolfast.6289

So does this mean you will now put a better rotation in the 2 team tournament? One map for several days isn’t all that great!

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Posted by: Tyler Bearce

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I don’t think a 2 teams match is a “tournament”. The minimum is 4 teams, elimination (2 matches) and a 3rd match with winners. Cross server, by the way, and ranked.

Agreed, we’ll eventually rebrand these as Rated Matches, rather than 2-Team Tournaments. It’s just something that requires changing text in a number of different areas, and a new build. So for now we are still calling them tournaments.

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Posted by: Shar.3402

Shar.3402

how about fixing the matchmaking so I can stop getting premade ALL THE TIME when I queue solo, while you’re at it?
thank you.

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Posted by: guza.6170

guza.6170

That would take more than just a text change so definetly not.

aka Subl

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Posted by: Apollo.7389

Apollo.7389

Love the quick que times…for the most part. But hate playing the same map day after day. Make the maps change EVERY MATCH randomly or make it in order than have it repeat. i.e. Foefire, Temple, Nifihel…repeat.

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Posted by: prozon.3561

prozon.3561

Anet plz be sensible…. give us back the 3 round tournaments…. team que only and solo que only at the 2team tournament….


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Posted by: chrisk.4320

chrisk.4320

Anet plz be sensible…. give us back the 3 round tournaments…. team que only and solo que only at the 2team tournament…

3 round tournaments were pointless. They only served to split queues for no good reason. They were a negative influence to the evolution of sPvP.

With 1-round rated matches ArenaNet needs to:

1. Split Team Queue and Solo Queue. MUST BE DONE.
2. Re-enable map rotation.

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Posted by: drmanos.1207

drmanos.1207

I hate the fact that 3-round (real) tournaments were discontinued. Tournaments now are just the same with the game browser matches with the difference they have a reward and that they happen only in one map, which is terrible.
So, give 3-round tournaments back to people in the form described below:
1. Solo Queue for 2-team Matches (not Tournaments). WITH map rotation.
2. Team Queue for 3-round Tournaments. With way better rewards and maybe, as said before, a ranking system.
3. Once a month, probably at the end of it, have a 6-round Finals Tournament, including the best, based on the ranking system described above, 16 teams (registered teams maybe…just an idea). Include the winning team in a list, something like Hall of Champions (cool name huh?) for example.

Please, give us back the real Tournaments.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

Why they don’t have just 1 option for tournament and you keep going till your team loses (LIKE IN GW1) is beyond me.

Also how they don’t have super tournaments is beyond me, that offer titles like Legendary Gladiator.