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Posted by: Rell.8395

Rell.8395

How long does it take to fix such a game breaking bug? It’s been here since fricken release and it still hasn’t been fixed. They block up to 10 seconds. It’s completely ridiculous and there are people that can do it regularly.

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Posted by: Blazer Hellsing.9184

Blazer Hellsing.9184

lol, there is no bug. They are using abilities, learn the other profession before calling bug. Guardians are fine.

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Posted by: Payneful.7934

Payneful.7934

Blazer obviously doesn’t do much pvp. This bug will go soon, I’m sure of it.

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Posted by: ilJumperMT.4871

ilJumperMT.4871

aegis is suppose to block only ONE attack

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Posted by: Payneful.7934

Payneful.7934

Blazer obviously doesn’t do much pvp. This bug will go soon, I’m sure of it.

What unlimited block are you talking about? Aegis and block on heal are working as intented, stop crying, learn what your opponent’s ability do.

I don’t know how you don’t know about the block bug. A guardian will use mace 3 and immediately attack something and will then block everything for the next 5 seconds.

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Posted by: Ottigan.2571

Ottigan.2571

actually its mace 3

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Posted by: Blazer Hellsing.9184

Blazer Hellsing.9184

Blazer obviously doesn’t do much pvp. This bug will go soon, I’m sure of it.

What unlimited block are you talking about? Aegis and block on heal are working as intented, stop crying, learn what your opponent’s ability do.

I don’t know how you don’t know about the block bug. A guardian will use mace 2 and immediately attack something and will then block everything for the next 5 seconds.

So? the ability says: block attacks and it does. Oh ma gawd, instead of not attacking the guardian and waiting it it out, lets drop our killer damage on it and waste it, then run to the forums and ask for Guardian nerfs just because we are bad.

No thanks, not my style brah.

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Posted by: Ottigan.2571

Ottigan.2571

christ…. Blazer, mace 3 is supposed to 1 attack but IF after pressing 3 and before it getting triggered you spam 1 it`ll bug and block for 3-4s straight.

And it`s not about some noobie throwing 100b in a block. It’s about that guardian has 3-4s block on mace 3 instead of “blocks the next attack”.

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Posted by: Karl McLain

Karl McLain

Game Designer

Next

Look for a fix for this in the very near future.

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

I’d never heard of this bug before. What info is there on this?

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Posted by: Blazer Hellsing.9184

Blazer Hellsing.9184

christ…. Blazer, mace 3 is supposed to 1 attack but IF after pressing 3 and before it getting triggered you spam 1 it`ll bug and block for 3-4s straight.

And it`s not about some noobie throwing 100b in a block. It’s about that guardian has 3-4s block on mace 3 instead of “blocks the next attack”.

I see, good that you explained it.

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Posted by: Ottigan.2571

Ottigan.2571

Proof? Simple make a guardian finish 1st quest go to hearts or stay in pve get 3rd skill read it’s description use once by letting the mob to trigger it and after that use it but immediately spam 1 and you’ll see block,block,block

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

It’s ok Ottigan, now that an official response has stated they will fix it, Blazer can no longer act like there is no bug and you should L2P.

The official response showed how valuable Blazer’s response here was.
He sort of made a fool of himself on this one, especially by reacting so high and mighty as a pro pvp’er.
He shouldn’t have insulted you before actually learning how it works.

Note how he only ‘stands corrected’ after the official response, before that he was even looking down on whoever explained it to him.

@Blazer: don’t be so aggressive towards people saying something is wrong in pvp. You seem much more reasonable in posts where you talk normal and not as a pro pvp’er putting everybody else down with L2P remarks.

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Posted by: Ottigan.2571

Ottigan.2571

Well i don’t really blame Blazer, because we all know that these forums can get pretty frustrating

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Posted by: Amityel.5324

Amityel.5324

pro pvper yeah……….

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

I don’t blame him either, even though it sounds like that when reading my post again

But I don’t like how he came out agressive and insulting before actually understanding how the bug worked.
And actually: I think he misunderstood how Aegis worked. Apparantly he considered it some kind of ongoing blocking of attacks.

That’s all fine and good, he likely knows morze about pvp mechanics than I do.
But that doesn’t warrant insulting others at the slightest hint of them critising his beloved game.

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Posted by: Schwahrheit.4203

Schwahrheit.4203

While you’re at it, fix fast hands and unsuspecting foe’s tool tip.

Since people are negative about nerfs, how about we buff to balance then?

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Posted by: BishopX.6453

BishopX.6453

no wonder people keep complaining guardians are OP and cant be killed, I play a guardian and I get facerolled by thieves and mezmers all day .. so THATs how people are surviving so long.
guess when we fix this we can all continue on with the nerf thief and mezmer crusade

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Posted by: rickshaw.5279

rickshaw.5279

So? the ability says: block attacks and it does. Oh ma gawd, instead of not attacking the guardian and waiting it it out, lets drop our killer damage on it and waste it, then run to the forums and ask for Guardian nerfs just because we are bad.

No thanks, not my style brah.

I do believe this post is the literal definition of “ignorance”.

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Posted by: Pray.9751

Pray.9751

if you’re bored: warrior’s frenzy untraited gives 6sec quickness not 4

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

if you’re bored: warrior’s frenzy untraited gives 6sec quickness not 4

wiki says 5 actually

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

lol, there is no bug. They are using abilities, learn the other profession before calling bug. Guardians are fine.

^ I enjoyed how he now has no argument after A-net came into play.

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Posted by: Eduardo.4675

Eduardo.4675

I also enjoyed it a lot, shows the intire world is “proness”, and mostly, how attentive and the level of awareness he possesses: none.

Adapt or die. I never die.

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Posted by: MajorMelchett.6042

MajorMelchett.6042

lol, there is no bug. They are using abilities, learn the other profession before calling bug. Guardians are fine.

^ I enjoyed how he now has no argument after A-net came into play.

Yeah i enjoyed how he basically admited after the Anet response and after someone actully explained (which would have helped in the opening post) what the issue was in a bit clearer detail, that he was wrong.

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Posted by: Med.6150

Med.6150

While you’re at it, fix fast hands and unsuspecting foe’s tool tip.

I am aware of Fast Hands not working for the first weapon swap, but that’s definitely a bug that appeared sometime between BWE 2 and 3, so not sure why the tooltip would have to be changed.

Same goes for Unsuspecting Foe…what’s wrong with its tooltip?

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Posted by: Balistix.2601

Balistix.2601

Near future doesn’t help when we all know it’s going to be abused to hell in paid tournaments.

Not to mention the already difficult and annoying meta building around bunker comps

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Posted by: Kaizz.7306

Kaizz.7306

Speaking as a Guardian, it is a bug, I’ve been guilty of using this on accident without even realizing it. When using a mace, the 3rd skill, as everyone knows, blocks the next attack in the area of it, but pressing 1 almost immediately afterwards allows u to attack, but the block will still be up for ~3s. It’s very easy to hit the block, but then press 1 to attack, not realizing you’d drop your block, but it doesn’t all the time. Legit needs to be fixed.

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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536


Blazer Hellsing.9184:
So? the ability says: block attacks and it does. Oh ma gawd, instead of not attacking the guardian and waiting it it out, lets drop our killer damage on it and waste it, then run to the forums and ask for Guardian nerfs just because we are bad.
No thanks, not my style brah.——
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This type of response is alarmingly common in MMO communities. You get people that genuinely care about the game and report problems / bugs, and then you have people who find any report that the game isn’t perfect as an attack on their beloved!

You found so many people in the SWTOR forums that would attack people that stated there was an ability delay issue. You had many people state “this game isn’t wow, this is how it’s designed”. Some people were genuinely angry that people would LIE about this flaw to make their game look bad. By the time the developers finally said something about them being aware of the issue it was too late. Many many people left. It was nice for some to say “in your face those of you who doubted”, but I was just sad.

Anyway, point of my reply here: don’t be so quick to attack those who try to point out flaws in a game. Chances are we love the game and play it as much as you do.

feLIVEar: Your resident forum king.

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Posted by: Apophis.8561

Apophis.8561

nice, now ill be able to kill guardians even faster when this bug is gone

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Posted by: Webley.1295

Webley.1295

lol, there is no bug. They are using abilities, learn the other profession before calling bug. Guardians are fine.

The problem is there are so many posts like this from bad players that Blazer would usually be right to say this… Unfortunatley not in this case

The thief forums is a good place

To every nerf cry in that forum every person being beaten explains the thief as a 30/30/30/30/30 build. Theifs can do everything and they can do nothing

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Posted by: Drauger.2158

Drauger.2158

aegis is suppose to block only ONE attack

Virtue’s aegis
Retreat’s aegis
Save Your Selves’ aegis
Skill 5 of Focus (its like 3 aegises)

So yea, I can in fact block at least 6 times in a fight. Maybe not consecutive but still effective. Consider if you are up against me if you realize you have been blocked excessively before blaming the bug ^^.

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Posted by: kKagari.6804

kKagari.6804

Erm, except all those skills have different animations. Save Yourself is really distinct too.

“We just don’t want players to grind in GW2” – C. Johanson
“it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun, rather than having fun”
Guild missions say otherwise.

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Posted by: Killthehealersffs.8940

Killthehealersffs.8940

Drauger might be right :P

While the Guardian channels the Mace 3 attack , he can push on top of that the 5 of the Focus (ofhand) + the F3 , for 5 blocks(they stack)
If u combine the Focus <<4>> cause 2 blinds and the 2sec block heal , might be the bug :P

Edit: In a Mace/Focus scenario the 5+ F3 protects the <<3rd Mace spell animation from ending>>
That why u think the 3rd channeling attack, blocks more than 1 hit while the animation is up

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Posted by: Yukishiro.8792

Yukishiro.8792

My unscientific study of the matter concludes about 50% of guardians wantonly abuse this bug.

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Posted by: Xaximbo.2763

Xaximbo.2763

i have seen guardians tank calmly 3 guys and even put out some decent damage (which combined with an eventual 2nd pal would result in an easy 2v3 + node conquered) bug or not this should be fixed. 2v1 is fine, 3v1 means something is broken.

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Posted by: JonPeters.5630

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Fix going in today fyi

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

Fix going in today fyi

nice, thanks.

I’m a very critical person on these forums, but I know when to say ‘thanks’ and smile

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Posted by: kKagari.6804

kKagari.6804

Any way you can pop by the necromancer forums Mr Peters and assure them what is being fixed?

“We just don’t want players to grind in GW2” – C. Johanson
“it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun, rather than having fun”
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Posted by: Siric.3589

Siric.3589

It’s not fixed FYI, you can still cancle cast it and get 5 sec of block bug.

[LR] Siric

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Posted by: valdamus.6289

valdamus.6289

So one single person makes a thread about a Guardian bug and Jon Peters comes out quick for a fix and also posts twice none the less.. .but another thread with nearly 500 replies concerning the gs change doesn’t even get 1?? Very interesting Mr Peters. We are not trying to write a novel you know.

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

So one single person makes a thread about a Guardian bug and a devs comes out quick for a fix and also posts twice none the less.. .but another thread with nearly 500 replies concerning the gs change doesn’t even get 1?? I see…

they had the fix ready, so replying here was easy and looks good.
If they don’t have a fix ready, it will be very delicate to reply directly.

It’s nice they answered this one as soon as they did, in the end it was a day before the patch or so. It happened to be on the patch notes already, that’s all.

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Posted by: Swilo.6475

Swilo.6475

Block bug still exists.

If you press 3 on mace then use 2 it will AOE block everything around you for 5 seconds. Just tested it in game after the patch.

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Posted by: Cheyenne.1085

Cheyenne.1085

Yep just got out of a game where a guardian was holding a point vs 6 people by exploiting this bug.

It’s completely game breaking and makes sPvP more of a joke than it already is.

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Posted by: Hero.9017

Hero.9017

Fix going in today fyi

um nope

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Posted by: hackks.3687

hackks.3687

Crafty-Cheating-Guardians 1 | Anet Devs 0

p.s. has anyone been past the guardian forums lately? you can hear the blubbering and crying by just rolling your mouse over the title. Don’t they know there’s no crying in Godmode?

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