Guild Wars 2

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

Because they’re BEASTS, ok. Warriors are just…worriors – short for cannon fodder.
You got your buffs, now go bk to your kennel @bannersunite.com

Haha- that’s the question!

I would like to play as a ranger’s pet, more chances to get slot in the tpvp premade than as a warrior.

wllalele.9427:

I would like to play as a ranger’s pet, more chances to get slot in the tpvp premade than as a warrior.

I dunno, I think I would take the current Ranger’s pet over a warrior. At least I could survive in melee encounters!

They’re harder to kill too. One followed me half way around the map until I got tired of it. I hit it with blade trail, 100b, whirlwind and rush on a zerker warrior, and it was still at ~60% life.

#beastmode

You clearly didn’t bring banners to whack them on the head.

And you forgot to kick it, that’ll help

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

You’re wrong…correct question is “Why pets already were stronger than warriors and now you made then even more op?”

Daecollo.9578:

- Less damage.

Raven.

warriors arent beasts

Yeah it is stupid how strong rangers pets are. They were already strong before the patch, now their power level is over 9000.

gwawer.9805:

warriors arent beasts

We don’t want warriors to be an unstoppable force.

I have 2 80’s a warrior and a ranger. Honestly. If you know the class of warrior ranger should be a challenge, everything should actually be a challenge. When I play my ranger the problem is people DON’T kill the pet, and that’s why i can beat them. I’m sorry anet made you think and use strategy while fighting something.

There is no “master class” that owns everything. Just like people adjusted to engineers getting buffed we must now find a way to beat rangers as well.

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/meme/237883/

Just allow rangers to tame warriors as pet.

Vuh.1328:

Just allow rangers to tame warriors as pet.

Well in roleplay, some warrior norns can already be tamed by cute human rangers.

Vylor.3276:

I have 2 80’s a warrior and a ranger. Honestly. If you know the class of warrior ranger should be a challenge, everything should actually be a challenge. When I play my ranger the problem is people DON’T kill the pet, and that’s why i can beat them. I’m sorry anet made you think and use strategy while fighting something.

I don’t think you play the game or the class. Killing the pet is the worst strategy ever against a ranger, by the time you almost kill it, you are already in a HUGE hp loss then they switch the pet on you and you basically sacrificed all the hp for absolutely no reason.

Minion of Vey.4398:

Vuh.1328:

Just allow rangers to tame warriors as pet.

But that would be a ranger nerf

EPIC

waka.9826:

Vylor.3276:

I have 2 80’s a warrior and a ranger. Honestly. If you know the class of warrior ranger should be a challenge, everything should actually be a challenge. When I play my ranger the problem is people DON’T kill the pet, and that’s why i can beat them. I’m sorry anet made you think and use strategy while fighting something.

I don’t think you play the game or the class. Killing the pet is the worst strategy ever against a ranger, by the time you almost kill it, you are already in a HUGE hp loss then they switch the pet on you and you basically sacrificed all the hp for absolutely no reason.

Yeah I’d have to agree.

The best strategy (imo) for killing a ranger is through conditions. In the trap build the pet tends not to be the issue and the survivability not as impressive, so I’m addressing mainly the BM build.

Rangers don’t have that many sources of active condition removal. The passive removal transfers to the pet when traited for Empathic Bond, otherwise, the person is running Bark Skin and still eating the condition damage. Other sources of removal come from Signet of Removals passive, and the active of it pull all of the conditions to the pet, and healing spring, which not everybody takes.

So here’s how this breaks down, if the ranger player isn’t being killed by the conditions, then the pet is, which will kill the pet (and therefore most of the DPS). Naturally, just as any other fight would go, a ranger will use the heal and utility accordingly, but will be forced into cooldown on those skills and probably not get to use them again in the same fight.

So now we are looking at 3 conditions being transferred and affecting the pet on a 10s ICD. Poison is going to be the most useful (reduces the passive healing while damaging), on top of whatever you can throw at them that damages. Engineers, having access to all of the damaging conditions, should be able to do well against the ranger, as well as necros.
It’s basically just a war of attrition.

Also, while it isn’t considered a competitive build, p/d condi thieves can do well against rangers since they have permanent access to stealth (CnD off of pets) and can reset the fight at anytime, while being able to keep the damaging conditions and their own healing up.

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I’ll kill any ranger’s pet easily. So no they aren’t better then us.

Can a rangers bet do this???

Yeah didn’t think so.

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I’ll kill any ranger’s pet easily. So no they aren’t better then us.

Can a ranger’s bet do this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

Yeah didn’t think so.

RamataKahn.4283:

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I’ll kill any ranger’s pet easily. So no they aren’t better then us.

Can a ranger’s bet do this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

Yeah didn’t think so.

1. They were fighting bad players.

2. This was pre-omnomberry pie nerf. (When warriors did have sustain.)

Stop trolling my threads.

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I don’t know, Why is the Ranger pet better then you as a player?

RamataKahn.4283:

Yeah didn’t think so.

You know there is something wrong with the game when ppl are seriously defending warriors in “Ranger’s pet vs Warrior” debate.

wllalele.9427:

RamataKahn.4283:

Yeah didn’t think so.

You know there is something wrong with the game when ppl are seriously defending warriors in “Ranger’s pet vs Warrior” debate.

lmfao..

Caffynated.5713:

They’re harder to kill too. One followed me half way around the map until I got tired of it. I hit it with blade trail, 100b, whirlwind and rush on a zerker warrior, and it was still at ~60% life.

#beastmode

Pure pile of crap. Jaguars now have 15k hp and about 1700 toughness. Ditto for ravens.

So don’t pull that tune about pet survival when last match an engineer just spammed grenades at me and in 7 seconds my pet was downed.

Warriors are fine: links a video from beta

Guess what, grenades at me and in 7 seconds my warrior was ALSO downed.

Daecollo.9578:

Warriors are fine: links a video from beta

Guess what, grenades at me and in 7 seconds my warrior was ALSO downed.

At least 17k hp, endure pain, heal removes conditions. You last more than the pet stop trolling.

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I’ll kill any ranger’s pet easily. So no they aren’t better then us.

Can a rangers bet do this???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0
Yeah didn’t think so.

Ahahahahaha….

“Published on Sep 27, 2012” lol this was great patch (judging by the video from saved on beta weeked, published mid 2012.)

Ty you r really competent.

Zenith.7301:

Daecollo.9578:

Warriors are fine: links a video from beta

Guess what, grenades at me and in 7 seconds my warrior was ALSO downed.

At least 17k hp, endure pain, heal removes conditions. You last more than the pet stop trolling.

Another “competent guy”.

“Heal remove Conditions” – Lies again, heal remove only 1 condition (25 sec CD) and only if you trait for it.

shimzor.6057:

“Heal remove Conditions” – Lies again, heal remove only 1 condition (25 sec CD) and only if you trait for it.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mending

Just sayin’

People run mending still? I thought it was decided 6 months ago that the heal was too small compared to healing surge and the condi removal was negligible at best.

AlBundy.7851:

People run mending still? I thought it was decided 6 months ago that the heal was too small compared to healing surge and the condi removal was negligible at best.

I use it. Less healing is better than watching 15+ stacks of bleeding tick for 130 damage each.

AlBundy.7851:

People run mending still? I thought it was decided 6 months ago that the heal was too small compared to healing surge and the condi removal was negligible at best.

If you have poison on you, even with full adrenaline you will heal for about the same amount as Mending. With no adrenaline… well…
And you’ll still have the poison after.

I would destroy a ranger’s pet in a 1v1.

@ everyone complaining about Rangers
You dont know a kitten about pets and Rangers..

Fear the new thieves..

The truth is BM rangers are best vs warriors. Warriors rely on melee damage and rangers can dodge that easy. While dogdeging the pet kills the warrior. BM rangers weakness is Immobelize + conditions.

Minion of Vey.4398:

Vuh.1328:

Just allow rangers to tame warriors as pet.

But that would be a ranger nerf

HAHA

RamataKahn.4283:

Daecollo.9578:

Why is ranger’s pet better then the Warrior?

Pros:
- More health.
- Ignores most pathing.
- Double the armor (due to perma-protection.)
- Better boons/buffs. (perma regeneration!)
- More sustain. (more HPS, better buffs.)
- Better temporary abilities. (better invulnerabilities.)
- Easier to use not so animated knockdowns. (self-explanatory.)
- Better condition removal. (All you need to do is switch me out to clear all conditions! Not only that my master can cure them off me!)

Cons:
- Less damage.
- Can’t be controlled by a player.

I’ll kill any ranger’s pet easily. So no they aren’t better then us.

Can a rangers bet do this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QD9KX0NT4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

Yeah didn’t think so.

That build doesn’t work anymore. That was when warriors were strong and weapon swap sigils didn’t have an internal. When leeching gave warriors an additional 200hps and dps AND you could use those with intelligence for big eviscerates. The 200 hps from leeching basically doubled warriors hps. For warriors to be equivalent to back then mending would have to heal for 10k.

Vylor.3276:

I have 2 80’s a warrior and a ranger. Honestly. If you know the class of warrior ranger should be a challenge, everything should actually be a challenge. When I play my ranger the problem is people DON’T kill the pet, and that’s why i can beat them. I’m sorry anet made you think and use strategy while fighting something.

Problem is they actually buffed all pet’s survivability…so this well know and not always effective counter strategy is now worthless…

They buffed pet’s survivability? By what, increasing their hp pools to 15k hp? The only pet that got survival increases were drake with doubled hp and bear with more armor — neither of those are used in pvp.

Zenith.7301:

They buffed pet’s survivability? By what, increasing their hp pools to 15k hp? The only pet that got survival increases were drake with doubled hp and bear with more armor — neither of those are used in pvp.

Some pets got a 300-400-700 toughness increase.

Harrier.9380:

shimzor.6057:

“Heal remove Conditions” – Lies again, heal remove only 1 condition (25 sec CD) and only if you trait for it.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mending

Just sayin’

Wait this is sPvP forum?? Someone use mending in spvp?

Warriors only have 14k health? Bummer.

wllalele.9427:

RamataKahn.4283:

Yeah didn’t think so.

You know there is something wrong with the game when ppl are seriously defending warriors in “Ranger’s pet vs Warrior” debate.

4500 word post

“This proves that Warriors are at least 9% better than ranger pets!”

I wish I had the survivability of a pet when I step into PvP. :<

Funny thing: I just saw some ranger with pet + 2 walking spirits(he must have had lots of traits in them) + rock dog. Lol. Pet can’t be that strong if they still need rock dogs and spirits.