Guild Wars 2

Well, we took Stonemist

saiyr.3071:

Well, we took Stonemist

Any 3 way fights that went on during the assault? That is always the best part in my opinion.

saiyr.3071:

Well, we took Stonemist

nice, i will be on in 6 hours. Am in the office right now. Tonight is gonna be exciting

100 kill lag clusterkitten is always nice.

I’d say us taking SMC was impressive, but I couldn’t even fire off abilities for 5 minutes because the server was so stressed when all 3 armies were in there. Thing was kittenshow.

Deathdom.8250:

Bones.5762:

Diehard.1432:

Raincrow.1840:

Bones.5762:

It’s because you guys only want to acknowledge the good stuff about your server

I don’t think we’re reading the same thread.

Yep, he was readng other thread i guess. Oh and I am CD Asian player as well

Sorry, didn’t realize you went to go see Dr Phil and everything about you changed in the course of a week. I’m a US asian player too but what does that have to do with anything except for the fact im not online during 4am pst.

It’s referring to your comment that they only acknowledge themselves and not the night zerg. They are the night zerg.

They are 2 people from the night crew, the commander of EsF came here with more humble and grace whom i have great respect for. You guys don’t come here with the same attitude which is why i don’t have respect for you 2 in particular and possibly more players in game, who knows. I tried to act civil but nobody wants to i guess, they are obviously stuck in past conflict saying he started it.

Anything with Dr.Phil and even racism comments… I sincerely hope the rest of Mags are not with you in this, |Bones. You merely made your server look bad, especially after your last posts. lol.

Oh and you take this forum way tooo seriously, you need to calm down a bit

Deathdom.8250:

Bones.5762:

Diehard.1432:

Raincrow.1840:

Bones.5762:

It’s because you guys only want to acknowledge the good stuff about your server

I don’t think we’re reading the same thread.

Yep, he was readng other thread i guess. Oh and I am CD Asian player as well

Sorry, didn’t realize you went to go see Dr Phil and everything about you changed in the course of a week. I’m a US asian player too but what does that have to do with anything except for the fact im not online during 4am pst.

It’s referring to your comment that they only acknowledge themselves and not the night zerg. They are the night zerg.

That and this odd notion that we don’t acknowledge anything but the “good stuff” about our server, which I don’t know where that came from, since there have been plenty of comments from our own CD players, myself included, acknowledging our faults.

The fact is it’s the Maguma players posting here who can’t acknowledge anything bad about their server. Heck they’ll even argue that they don’t care about winning on one page and then argue that they do care on the next.

I’m happy to admit that CD has issues… but this idea that we’re a skilless mass of zerglings is nonsense.

Diehard.1432:

Anything with Dr.Phil and even racism comments… I sincerely hope the rest of Mags are not with you in this, |Bones. You merely made your server look bad, especially after your last posts. lol.

Oh and you take this forum way tooo seriously, you need to calm down a bit

On page 1 he was telling me about how laid back he is. Of course that was when CD was the brunt of the criticism.

Shoe… meet other foot.

Raincrow.1840:

Deathdom.8250:

Bones.5762:

Diehard.1432:

Raincrow.1840:

Bones.5762:

It’s because you guys only want to acknowledge the good stuff about your server

I don’t think we’re reading the same thread.

Yep, he was readng other thread i guess. Oh and I am CD Asian player as well

Sorry, didn’t realize you went to go see Dr Phil and everything about you changed in the course of a week. I’m a US asian player too but what does that have to do with anything except for the fact im not online during 4am pst.

It’s referring to your comment that they only acknowledge themselves and not the night zerg. They are the night zerg.

That and this odd notion that we don’t acknowledge anything but the “good stuff” about our server, which I don’t know where that came from, since there have been plenty of comments from our own CD players, myself included, acknowledging our faults.

The fact is it’s the Maguma players posting here who can’t acknowledge anything bad about their server. Heck they’ll even argue on one page that they don’t care about winning on one page and then argue that they do care on the next.

I’m happy to admit that CD has issues… but this idea that we’re a skilless mass of zerglings is nonsense.

If you read other Mag posts as well they’ve stated that mags not perfect either and some have even listed down problems as well. And i used dr phil and terrorists as a form of troll. I don’t mind occasional trolls but so far all week, it’s been like this, theres no reason for any of it. so i’ve decided to just ignore. Also if you haven’t noticed, it’s a minority few who keeps saying it, and you obviously are just re-living the past constantly bringing that up, i even gave you guys props, but like i also said you guys aren’t the best like you say, and youre not the worst like others say either. I have no problem withnight crew players, but to come online and post things and bash our server for lack of defense is a bit odd, if you didn’t want to pvd maybe you should go to a eu server til they get a server in asia running, which is probably another case of why people call you guys mindless i believe, you get online while nobody is really playing to defend then brag about it like it was the biggest moments of your lives. Mag and EB is definitely not a night crew focused wvw server, they might have a couple players numbering up to 20 or so all in one bl each, but nothing like a 60-80 group of wvw players spread across 4 bl.

Also i’m clearly an individual with just an opinion who i always say is mines and mines alone, if you guys reflect that on my server idc tbh. If this is the case it’s why your server looks bad already, because you guys reflect your server this way.

Raincrow.1840:

Diehard.1432:

Anything with Dr.Phil and even racism comments… I sincerely hope the rest of Mags are not with you in this, |Bones. You merely made your server look bad, especially after your last posts. lol.

Oh and you take this forum way tooo seriously, you need to calm down a bit

On page 1 he was telling me about how laid back he is. Of course that was when CD was the brunt of the criticism.

Shoe… meet other foot.

If you actually fully quoted me 90% of the time you wouldve read my one post about me saying im laid back but when i see something i don’t like i react, then get over it, then go in a loop again because people stay in a loop forcing me into this loop

Great Job EB if it wasnt for your expert tactics and leadership on the battlefield Maguuma would be here crying instead of sitting in SMC atm! They owe you a BIG Thank You!!

By you hitting our Southern Flank you allowed them to WTFMesmir Zerg! (wait im from CD and they say thats when we do…….) GJ EB keep it up!!!!

saiyr.3071:

Well, we took Stonemist

Nice to see someone over there is open to suggestions from the “enemy”. I’ve been hoping you guys would make this week interesting.

Now maybe Ebay can step it up too.

CD don’t portal bomb ever. Come on now.

I doubt they even saw your post, tbh. One of our evening commanders who likes EB is pretty new so I’m not really surprised he didn’t try anything for awhile. But congrats I guess!

It was a three way fight from what I heard, I wasn’t actually there.

Its a nice fight last week haha

That sweet sweet karma.

Bones.5762:

I guess CD just don’t understand what it takes to be a maguuman, so please don’t xfer over here because you guys will qq about how we play.

You’re right, we don’t know how to be Maguuman. We can’t comprehend getting rolled so hard, then still claiming we’re better.

Also, I had a 1v3, then a 1v4 against the supposed elite maguuman small force pvpers. I figured I stood no chance, being my zerg wasn’t with me. I mean, Crystal Desert players are nothing without the zerg, right? But I won both encounters! So weird. I guess this means, since I fought, collectively, seven people, that you’re whole entire server is actually awful.

Furthermore, during your successful capture of SMC, which did seem to catch us off guard, as well as EBay coming in from the other side at the same time, I got 31 badges off the impregnable maguumans. without being downed once, and getting away to boot.

So, with that said, and most of this thread going to shambles (admittedly, this post is no different than most in here, and apologize for that, but I could only read so much blowhard before responding) I, sir/madam, along with what i’d think would be the vast majority/all of our, Crystal Desert, server are proud of not being maguuman. Mainly, and this is just speculation, because we like to, you know, win. Something you guys just haven’t added to your superior tactics, yet.

Enjoy your match next week

Curvs.9183:

Furthermore, during your successful capture of SMC, which did seem to catch us off guard, as well as EBay coming in from the other side at the same time, I got 31 badges off the impregnable maguumans. without being downed once, and getting away to boot.

This isn’t something I’d be proud of and share with the class. You just ousted yourself as a coward. If you weren’t in the middle of that ring, you’re the direct reason why Mag was able to flip SMC in the first place. Hell with the waypoint upgrade, you shouldn’t even be worried about death. You can port in every 3 minutes at your leisure.

As a Maguuman, I suppose I should thank you.

Curvs.9183:

Bones.5762:

I guess CD just don’t understand what it takes to be a maguuman, so please don’t xfer over here because you guys will qq about how we play.

You’re right, we don’t know how to be Maguuman. We can’t comprehend getting rolled so hard, then still claiming we’re better.

Also, I had a 1v3, then a 1v4 against the supposed elite maguuman small force pvpers. I figured I stood no chance, being my zerg wasn’t with me. I mean, Crystal Desert players are nothing without the zerg, right? But I won both encounters! So weird. I guess this means, since I fought, collectively, seven people, that you’re whole entire server is actually awful.

Furthermore, during your successful capture of SMC, which did seem to catch us off guard, as well as EBay coming in from the other side at the same time, I got 31 badges off the impregnable maguumans. without being downed once, and getting away to boot.

So, with that said, and most of this thread going to shambles (admittedly, this post is no different than most in here, and apologize for that, but I could only read so much blowhard before responding) I, sir/madam, along with what i’d think would be the vast majority/all of our, Crystal Desert, server are proud of not being maguuman. Mainly, and this is just speculation, because we like to, you know, win. Something you guys just haven’t added to your superior tactics, yet.

heres how this game works, 90% of players in wvw are bads. the rest are good at pvp. these 10% will always destroy even numbers, and more often then not, more numbers.

however because CD simply has more people, it means the chances of the 10% from mag meeting the bads on CD is going to happen more often. this is where the claims of the skillless CD comes from.

its not saying everyone from CD is bad, its just a sampling bias.

wads.5730:

Curvs.9183:

Bones.5762:

I guess CD just don’t understand what it takes to be a maguuman, so please don’t xfer over here because you guys will qq about how we play.

You’re right, we don’t know how to be Maguuman. We can’t comprehend getting rolled so hard, then still claiming we’re better.

Also, I had a 1v3, then a 1v4 against the supposed elite maguuman small force pvpers. I figured I stood no chance, being my zerg wasn’t with me. I mean, Crystal Desert players are nothing without the zerg, right? But I won both encounters! So weird. I guess this means, since I fought, collectively, seven people, that you’re whole entire server is actually awful.

Furthermore, during your successful capture of SMC, which did seem to catch us off guard, as well as EBay coming in from the other side at the same time, I got 31 badges off the impregnable maguumans. without being downed once, and getting away to boot.

So, with that said, and most of this thread going to shambles (admittedly, this post is no different than most in here, and apologize for that, but I could only read so much blowhard before responding) I, sir/madam, along with what i’d think would be the vast majority/all of our, Crystal Desert, server are proud of not being maguuman. Mainly, and this is just speculation, because we like to, you know, win. Something you guys just haven’t added to your superior tactics, yet.

heres how this game works, 90% of players in wvw are bads. the rest are good at pvp. these 10% will always destroy even numbers, and more often then not, more numbers.

however because CD simply has more people, it means the chances of the 10% from mag meeting the bads on CD is going to happen more often. this is where the claims of the skillless CD comes from.

its not saying everyone from CD is bad, its just a sampling bias.

Good point ^

heres how this game works, 90% of players in wvw are bads. the rest are good at pvp. these 10% will always destroy even numbers, and more often then not, more numbers.

however because CD simply has more people, it means the chances of the 10% from mag meeting the bads on CD is going to happen more often. this is where the claims of the skillless CD comes from.

its not saying everyone from CD is bad, its just a sampling bias.

Good point ^[/quote]

Agree, so if Maguuma had more people, they’d have more newbies for other servers to farm…

Rhyis.7058:

Curvs.9183:

Furthermore, during your successful capture of SMC, which did seem to catch us off guard, as well as EBay coming in from the other side at the same time, I got 31 badges off the impregnable maguumans. without being downed once, and getting away to boot.

This isn’t something I’d be proud of and share with the class. You just ousted yourself as a coward. If you weren’t in the middle of that ring, you’re the direct reason why Mag was able to flip SMC in the first place. Hell with the waypoint upgrade, you shouldn’t even be worried about death. You can port in every 3 minutes at your leisure.

As a Maguuman, I suppose I should thank you.

In this light, it does look bad, and I’m sure some probably did bail. It was pretty nuts in there; I don’t think i was above 50% health or endurance for a good 10 minutes, once EBay and Maguuma broke in. However, I left after SMC was taken, and our last stand on the roof was broken. I hid for a few minutes on the roof before I thought I got spotted.

I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.

Curvs.9183:

I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.

Sometimes you can just look around and see that your death has no meaning, so getting away in a situation like that isn’t a bad thing. You can’t really be a “coward” in a game where death has no meaning.

There is such a thing as a tactical retreat.

Curvs.9183:

In this light, it does look bad, and I’m sure some probably did bail. It was pretty nuts in there; I don’t think i was above 50% health or endurance for a good 10 minutes, once EBay and Maguuma broke in. However, I left after SMC was taken, and our last stand on the roof was broken. I hid for a few minutes on the roof before I thought I got spotted.

I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.

But if you ported away it means you weren’t fighting in that last stand on the roof, as you can’t port while in combat. So you literally watched your comrades die while doing nothing… And really, unless you’re a mesmer, there wasn’t any reason to be on that roof. If you weren’t able to stop us with 50+ sieged to the gills, you sure as hell weren’t going to stop us with 10-15 with a single ballista. You’d have been better served either having the 10-15 of you hide somewhere, and hope we didn’t find you so you could instantly ninja cap the location. Or to have a true last stand in the capture point, increasing your numbers and your chances of wiping everybody right then and there.

Raincrow.1840:

Curvs.9183:

I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.

Sometimes you can just look around and see that your death has no meaning, so getting away in a situation like that isn’t a bad thing.

There is such a thing as a tactical retreat.

This is true when there’s no hope of winning the battle, however that wasn’t the case in SMC at all. Each army sat inside the capture point for upwards of 10 minutes. It really was anybody’s guess who was going to come out on top. If CD had an extra body or two in there, who knows, it may not have flipped.

Rhyis.7058:

This is true when there’s no hope of winning the battle, however that wasn’t the case in SMC at all. Each army sat inside the capture point for upwards of 10 minutes. It really was anybody’s guess who was going to come out on top. If CD had an extra body or two in there, who knows, it may not have flipped.

He just said you guys had already taken it when he got away.

You guys won’t give us credit for anything will you?

If he got away, he wasn’t inside the ring. Once SMC is flipped, that lord insta kills everybody on that location with a single swipe of his AoE because of the 4 min buff.

Speaking of skilled Maguumans if you are often running alone and would like to join a roaming guild send me a tell/mail in game.

Rhyis.7058:

Curvs.9183:

In this light, it does look bad, and I’m sure some probably did bail. It was pretty nuts in there; I don’t think i was above 50% health or endurance for a good 10 minutes, once EBay and Maguuma broke in. However, I left after SMC was taken, and our last stand on the roof was broken. I hid for a few minutes on the roof before I thought I got spotted.

I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.

But if you ported away it means you weren’t fighting in that last stand on the roof, as you can’t port while in combat. So you literally watched your comrades die while doing nothing… And really, unless you’re a mesmer, there wasn’t any reason to be on that roof. If you weren’t able to stop us with 50+ sieged to the gills, you sure as hell weren’t going to stop us with 10-15 with a single ballista. You’d have been better served either having the 10-15 of you hide somewhere, and hope we didn’t find you so you could instantly ninja cap the location. Or to have a true last stand in the capture point, increasing your numbers and your chances of wiping everybody right then and there.

Raincrow.1840:

Curvs.9183:

I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.

Sometimes you can just look around and see that your death has no meaning, so getting away in a situation like that isn’t a bad thing.

There is such a thing as a tactical retreat.

This is true when there’s no hope of winning the battle, however that wasn’t the case in SMC at all. Each army sat inside the capture point for upwards of 10 minutes. It really was anybody’s guess who was going to come out on top. If CD had an extra body or two in there, who knows, it may not have flipped.

I was on my mesmer, and I never said anything about Way-pointing out. And once it got to “one more tick to cap” (and i think Mag may have had an arrow cart up?) there wasn’t a whole lot our skeleton crew could do. So, we retreated upstairs and tried to set some siege down, but realized we didn’t have a whole lot of supply, so we did what we could. Once that didn’t hold out, I found a spot and did /sleep when the order was issued for mesmers to hide. once my spot got blown up, I alternated my group stealth/decoy/blink/veil, while jumping down as needed. It was a lost cause I went straight out from SMC, and started building trebs in WC, to start the counter attack.

It’s so silly I have to explain all the details. If it were a Mag player, making my post, he could have said. “SMC, inside, killed some, got out, yey!” And they would get showered in adoration in how they outsmarted the mindless CD players.

Tactical retreats, as Raincrow said, are just as viable as staying till death. I’d have to say that’s something TC was/is so good at. They burned us more times than not, by pulling back, and regrouping.

I, and my guild, are totally looking forward to next week’s match. We picked up (randomly?) a few great NA guilds, that are making an impact. That is where we fell short in the past in the upper tiers, once we had our guild exodus. When we used to have a safe spot in tier 2, we had excellent NA coverage. We were close to bumping up to tier 1, if i remember correctly at one point. So hopefully, we’re on the right track again. we’ll need to be against the likes of TC and YB.

It would be awesome if they implemented some mechanic that would balance the play field at any given time, but that’s highly unlikely. So until the brackets work themselves out a little more, this current tier will always be a bit rocky.

Realpost time… how do you all have enough time to drop so many words on these forum posts. I mean I get a lot of time in between fscks to dump maybe a paragraph or two, but there’s an epic amount of care and essays going down in this thread. What kinda jobs do you all work with this sick amount of downtime and where do I apply?

Hey everyone.. again haha.

Think the thread got derailed quite a few times and the consistent bickering between each of us isn’t making it better.. From my POV I’ll just list down some points that started this… bickering and other points I’ve seen/remember (can’t remember all).

I don’t actually recall who started it but I think some people a bit sore from all sides posted in a snide manner that provokes the other server so I guess we can say we are all at fault here for fighting each other.
From CD side we have some people (most recently commander Titanwar) coming in with comments we could really do without, with kitten like “we took you apart ez” or other degrading terms that implied an easy fight. We don’t really need that here, even if it did or did not happen (the reason I say this is that I’m sure everyone here has had an easy fight and also a tough one at times). Then we have others who retaliate on what the Mag/EB or whoever said stuff about us being terribad and unskilled.

From Mag side I think the main starting point and one whose name I really remember is Bunzy, coming in speaking like you own everyone hands down and can’t find a decent challenge. You may not mean this to be provocating but it really is very irritating and provocating when the way you seem to show yourself to others is that you are very good (you probably are good but no need to flaunt and degrade others) and that you can pick apart any CD players and thus regard us all as trash. Don’t know what you were trying to go with this but if you are great at fighting in small groups that’s cool, but don’t come around saying everyone is kitten because you can beat others. You can never safely say that till you fought like everyone in the server and taken them apart. But I feel that what you said really raised the tension and brought out more of the aggressive side of CD players.

I know Mag’s and EB’s were saying that CD players were claiming to be skillful or amazing because we took out everything in a BL and then CD players degrade the others as not skillful. If they did say that then shame on you, there isn’t a need to flame any opponent as long as they didn’t disrespect you.
For the Mag and EB side I don’t know whether you guys are joking or serious but to call us mindless zerg really is insulting. We may not have the best tactical moves nor the best coordination but we aren’t so stupid as to be degraded to that. I see nothing wrong with attempting to take a key point like a keep, though maybe dying to the same kitten like 3 times in a row may not be the way to do it. Holding a point with decently placed sieged and minimum numbers against a larger force is great but not astounding. Nothing is wrong with 10-15 guys with siege and a fully upgraded keep being able to hold off a group of 30-40 guys. Theres a reason why defenders are favoured when defending and you can’t really expect a group of 40 to take a keep from a group of 40 defending it, as the defenders SHOULD have the advantage. So please lay off the mindless zerg thing and throwing bodies at a wall. I mean seriously where else do you want us to attack? The tower next to your spawn? or the garrison near your spawn (and towers), it’d be nightmare attempting it unless we can pull off a cool ninja.

Honestly speaking I kinda forgot what the EB players said (and also who here is from what server. for those without the information on the sig)

So I hope that kinda layed out why we are all fighting, what everyone sort of said to each other (as best as I can remember) and that we can come to terms with it. Yes CD does outnumber Mag and EB and yes we do hit the same kitten for a long time in an attempt to get it, there may be improvements to our strategy and way we fight but try to bring it in a manner that doesnt provocate others.
Mag has good defence and fast response times, but lack the numbers to be able to do more and hold ground. Same goes for Ehmry. I don’t know about the super skilled players who can take on 1v5 and own everyone but I do hope I do not meet you in a 1v1 situation.

Also, I fight on Oceanic timing and purposely attack your BL (Mag) so that we have a more even fight because our main group is always in EBG/PvEing, so the last 2 nights have been sort of 1:3 Mag favour at the start, then 2:1 CD favour, ending with around 1:1 even numbers. It has been enjoyable fighting and gaining (sometimes losing) ground and I learnt and sharpened up my WvW skills from fighting you guys. I hope you all have fun WvW in your own way and if we do meet again in the higher tiers (assuming CD moves up this round and doesn’t get manhandled by TC/YB), heres to a good clean fight (I can’t really apologize for the hackers since I don’t know them but… I fight cleanly at least). I forgot what I was gonna put in at the end so… bai

Leaxanna – Leader of Presence [Awe] (CD Oeanic – Recruiting we need more people! )
WvW commander of Awe

Ren.6351:

So I hope that kinda layed out why we are all fighting

I applaud you for trying to act civil but I don’t think anyone here is confused as to why we are arguing.

just in case anyone got lost because I kinda forgot what everyone was arguing about at some point

saiyr.3071:

Jinks.2057:

To AoN before a stomp is to alt f4.

Master troll!!

Some of you really seem to hate guilds that transfer to Maguuma, it’s pretty amusing. If they transfer from your server then they’re deserters, if they transfer from servers you’ve fought before, they’re butthurt guilds that transferred here just so they could beat you. Give it a rest.

No its called not knowing who they were when on your server only to find out when you fight them they all AoN upon getting downed.

I wish they would xfer back to Ebay so I could call them out in chat

Jinks.2057:

saiyr.3071:

Jinks.2057:

To AoN before a stomp is to alt f4.

Master troll!!

Some of you really seem to hate guilds that transfer to Maguuma, it’s pretty amusing. If they transfer from your server then they’re deserters, if they transfer from servers you’ve fought before, they’re butthurt guilds that transferred here just so they could beat you. Give it a rest.

No its called not knowing who they were when on your server only to find out when you fight them they all AoN upon getting downed.

I wish they would xfer back to Ebay so I could call them out in chat

Judging by the content of Ebay’s forums if someone from your server called me out, I would probably do this.. You guys are pretty special on your own servers…

zastari.1730:

Realpost time… how do you all have enough time to drop so many words on these forum posts. I mean I get a lot of time in between fscks to dump maybe a paragraph or two, but there’s an epic amount of care and essays going down in this thread. What kinda jobs do you all work with this sick amount of downtime and where do I apply?

LOL and then a word bomb landed directly after your post.

Some people just need a hug.. around the neck.. with a rope.

It’s amazing how well crystal desert is doing given the extent of server issues they’re having. Half of the people I fight get disconnected before I can even stomp them. I hope you don’t have long queues.

@ren My guild is Original Gankstars [OG] if CD have a problem with me they can come kill me in game

Nilgoow.1037:

It’s amazing how well crystal desert is doing given the extent of server issues they’re having. Half of the people I fight get disconnected before I can even stomp them. I hope you don’t have long queues.

This is becoming a widespread problem across all servers, not just CD.

After being rolled by EB a few weeks ago, it’s nice to read these comments.

Bumped because I like you guys

Curvs.9183:

If it were a Mag player, making my post, he could have said. “SMC, inside, killed some, got out, yey!” And they would get showered in adoration in how they outsmarted the mindless CD players.

I would’ve said the exact same thing. I already called out a Mag forum member just the other day. I’m an equal opportunity truth seeker.

Anyway, I’d go into it more but your story has changed 3 times now and I honestly don’t care anymore.

Forum Wars 2

There really is not much more to say

219,371 CD
109,367 Maguuma
93,350 Ehmry

This thread is just…depressing.

Apparently Yak’s Bend is now slated to move down for the next match instead of Fort Aspenwood. That should be interesting, since it’s been a long time since we’ve played them and they’ve moved up in life since then.

Besetment.9187:

This thread is just…depressing.

:( More players in forums than in WvW

saiyr.3071:

Apparently Yak’s Bend is now slated to move down for the next match instead of Fort Aspenwood. That should be interesting, since it’s been a long time since we’ve played them and they’ve moved up in life since then.

It will be a rematch from 9 weeks ago, lol
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/2#NA

Rhyis.7058:

Having the higher score is entirely based on which server has the most amount of player coverage within the 168 hour time frame.

And this isn’t to say objectives are meaningless, that’s not what I’m saying at all. Simply that the end score has almost nothing to do with me personally, so why would I or anybody else, feel the need to take credit for it? Everybody is a very small cog in the wheel that is called <insert your wvw server here>.

That’s not true at all. Five players can keep thirty out of a tower and defend against an absurd amount of siege. Trebuchets behind walls or open field with that 30 player zerg stacked on them still eventually get the enemy into your towers. The open field situation I see as a good thing for the game during peak hours but the maps aren’t set up in a way that requires it to reach most fortifications (unless you count the specific hilltop spots that a few people use,) so it is extremely rare to see people actually doing that.

You may not be able to capture very much at night but unless you’ve literally got nobody on, you can very easily slow down, and practically halt, the night crew. You need to actually have a plan instead of just building some last minute arrow carts but having 50 enemies running around isn’t an automatic loss.

Motivating your night time players to try to do these things is probably harder than teaching them how to do it.

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So why take any credit for being part of the system? Because you’re part of it. If you troll the chat a lot (and I mean actually getting people at each other’s throats) you decrease cooperation between guilds, demotivate large swaths of pugs, and distract from the objectives. MOST of the players won’t even see it from lack of watching chat or being on at the time but the effects echo outward.

Likewise arguing that your individual contribution doesn’t amount to anything convinces a lot of players like you that they don’t matter. If you’re persuasive enough you might make a lot of people on your server think that. Think through that with some basic philosophy and you should go right to “what if everyone thought like that?”
Well you’d get leveling players that only play if there is an easy karma train going around but otherwise stay out of WvW and you’d get 80s in exotics that only play if there are a lot of targets running around with significantly less skill than them.

Sounds like a potential reason you don’t have any night players. Look around lion’s arch some time and you’ll see that people on that side of the world play on your server, but for whatever reason they’re not interested in doing WvW.

Rhyis.7058:

Do I really have to explain this? I mean seriously, it’s right kitten there for everybody to read. This kitten isn’t decrypted.

The woosh indicates that you’ve actually just repeated part of what he was saying. It’s right there for everybody to read. It isn’t encrypted.

Phzt.9864:

I think you’re bad at WvW as well as PvP after reading this post. Maybe you guys can talk about your brilliant new tactic of taking keeps without orange swords, because we’re still trying to figure that one out on Maguuma.

I can admit that certain players on here are perhaps a bit obsessed with ninja’ing keeps. It’s only slightly smarter than a golem rush imo.

saiyr.3071:

I find it a little weird that both CD and EB claim we have a lot of thieves,

I haven’t really seen an unusual number of them these past few weeks. Saw a few that really knew what they were doing the first week and then a LOT that really didn’t know what they were doing last week (heartseeker strike without some other kind of attack to take a big chunk out of my health first? Maybe in the really high damage gear but not when you’re only going to do half of the health of a clothy before you’re out of initiative…) but the ratios don’t seem unusual to me.

Bones.5762:

Also since you guys are so good and that’s what you imply, why can’t you beat TC who has 2x your number? should be easy right? You guys call them cowards, mindless zergs but you guys obviously got your A** handed to you.

We beat them in open field combat fairly frequently but after a little defending their zerg would just go to another borderland and roll it unopposed while we had to waste a lot of time figuring out which one they went to. If we were against them three weeks in a row I’m sure we could have set up a few sentries to keep eyes on their spawn and get us all to what they were attacking but we spent most of the week wondering why they gave up after so few deaths.

Wouldn’t say they were mindless but the mind(s) behind them was super into PvGate.

Is some random CD player seriously telling Maguuma how to defend? That’s like trying to teach SoS how to PvD.