Guild Wars 2

I have been having a blast on NS borderlands!

@Anvil Pants
Least accurate? It happened yesterday. BEARDED.6485 and you were the commander in EB. (I think it was you, might be “inaccurate”.)

We asked for help on Anz, and BEARDED.6485 answered : just let it go, we will cap it later. Same thing with Ogrewatch, but we defended it by ourselves.

I don’t understand why you dont fortify our position, before pushing in the ennmy territory like you did. You have the man power, the communication, the ressources.

The alliance is doing a good job at attacking, but I travelled with you guys for 2 weeks, and we only defended the bay and sometime the garrison. Never the towers, and never building defensive siege.

I remember once, ennemy were attacking our tower near spawn in ennemy BL, we only had this tower. They were like 15-20. We had an alliance zerg going on trying to get the Hills.

The hills siege was failing, so I ported to waypoint and tried to protect our tower. Alliance zerg also ported, and when I asked to come protect the tower they all ignored. They followed the commander and took a camp right next.

They finaly came back at the tower, like 1 min after the ennemy capped it.

We could have defended it, but taking a camp and listening to a non commander was too hard.

I used to defend the alliance, but after witnessing screenshot of you guys hacking during the last match up, I lost the respect. I remember hearing on the TS people talking about exploiting a tower, I thought they were joking.

Am I still :

Least accurate? That was the exact sentence that Bearded used just yesterday.
Disrespectful? I lost it since you guys used exploit to cap keeps.
Zero Real information ? I have been on the TS for 2 weeks, so I got real information.
Nonsense opinion? That’s your opinion

I will repeat it, I still think the Alliance is doing a good job. I’m not saying you guys are bad at sieging, or that you have a bad leadership.

I think you guys forget tend to forget to defend tower, and that you got our server a really bad reputation because your members used exploit to attack a garrison.

brandon.6735:

bradderzh.2378:

Wow, I tell you one thing NSP, you set your sights on something you get it. Even at the cost of all else!

We took your trebs down at SM soo many times only to see 2 placed for every one taken down. Every push you made and fell back you came back with even more bodies. The golems you brought to their dooms fell only too see more a half hour later. It was funny that the whole time you tried to take it from us I’m pretty sure AR and GoM had your whole borderlands once each.

I would like to thank all of Anvil rock that helped me hold onto Overlook for the 9hrs I was on (12-9pm). When NPS finally took it and instantly set up a large number ballistas at our spawn many of our guys were pissedoff, but I was happy. We did great

Can I ask one thing? Do you organise your player base to flood one map at a time? I’m not judging the tactic, it obviously works for you guys. The reason I ask is because every time I have hit a map you were not running I have been able to easily 4man your hills and bay without intervention.

We have too. Our WvW community to small to have large amount of players on each map. We usually run small teams in other BL to help but that’s it.

Yeah, the three weeks of DB/DH/NSP really showed that NSP plays above their numbers. A server like DB has the numbers (and round the clock presence now that they had the influx of NA prime guild transfers) but absolutely no strategy or skill to support it.

Others seem to think we end up outnumbering our opponents, but that’s rarely the case. The major WvW guilds on the server do a great job organizing their own, and as far as I’m aware don’t have the usual inter-guild drama that can kill map strategy.

@Kardiamond Like I said before, where and when. In EB yesterday there was an inordinate amount of pressure from NSP, using the larger groups to pressure the south needed to happen in order to redirect enemy focus. Sometimes we need to decide if it is better to hold a position that is not upgraded or pressure an enemy position that is, which can in turn allow us to fortify that same position later. Are they always the right decisions and does everyone always agree? No, but those decisions need to be made on a regular basis, and we learn from them.

That was the issue : No upgrade in the tower, not a single siege defense.

Anvil Rock has to start building defense in their tower. That’s how you hold ennemies. I’m not mad at our server for not defending, but I think if we went to get in the upper tier, we have to start doing it. We are still learning how to be more efficient!

You know how it was hard to fight BP? They were always upgrading and building siege on every position. You knew that most tower wouldn’t be a walk in the park, they would defend it.

Anvil Pants got all emotional about it, but I’m not bashing over the alliance in my first post. I’m just asking for more defence. The alliance isn’t perfect, nor am I, but If I can inspire myself from BP, that’s what they did to us.

My second post sure was more bashing the alliance, but I’m still mad at them for the exploit gate.

@ Kardiamond Honestly it has been discussed and won’t happen again. I have been working with the alliance pretty steadily since this match up started, and so far all I have seen has been clean play. Of course I don’t condone or participate in exploits, hacks, or questionable tactics.

Kardiamond.6952:

We asked for help on Anz, and Bearded answered : just let it go, we will cap it later. Same thing with Ogrewatch, but we defended it by ourselves.

Anzalia’s Pass is a special case. It’s the easiest to assault from Stonemist, and the most difficult to defend from Red’s waypoint. There have and will be many times when we correctly decide not to defend it.

I can’t speak toward the Ogrewatch example, but I’ll say this: Your blanket statements are unwarranted, and you’re wasting your time here.

Edit: The rest of your opinion reads like F.U.D., thus nonsense, and if you’ve been with us on Teamspeak for 2 weeks, then you haven’t been listening, and I dare you to say these things in there.

We are doing our best at T7 holding 695 points at all times but not much we can do unless GoM fails. So our hearts are with Anvil Rock and NSP these last 3 days. Beat GoM so Devona can give you a real challange

@Anvil Pants

Strange how I can have a good discution about it with Dovgan, but you are just too full of yourself to listen to anyone not in the alliance.

You said I had zero real information, now you admit what I said was true about Anz, why would it be false for ogrewatch or anything else? I don’t have anything to prove by lying.

You take the critic or not, it’s your choice. We all know the alliance is always right, especially when you are all following a drunken emotional Ronny around :P (That’s a joke by the way).

Have a good day!

Dovgan I dont think he is saying pull th whole attack zerg to go defend something. Yet what it sounds like is they had a small force slip in behide and cap rite behide the zergs back . I believe what he is saying is . kitten doesnt even set siege down when they are commaning a zerg .
So when they do slip behide the few that are there can defend. even send afew to help.
I have seen this over and over on AR. It striaght up annnoying. EB is the worst you need a good def plus strong offense. If enemy has SM.

Didnt EoH leave do to kitten not wanting or caring about defending.
A small group can kill off a good size zerg with well placed siege

I understand that a well set up tower can stifle a zerg, I have had my guild manning my layouts for over 14 hours in a tower, and barely lose siege, let alone the tower. I usually throw the set up I know works after I cap a point, but that’s how I do things, and different Commanders will do them differently. It gets expensive constantly dropping siege, trust me. I guess you can’t always expect it to happen and players outside the alliance may have to occasionally step up and splurge on that 6 silver arrow cart. Yes, if it is my cap, expect me to greatly contribute to the siege and the layout, but you can’t always rely on the person commanding to do that.

@Dovgan

Being mostly a solo player, I can’t substain enought ressources to defend the tower by myself. That’s why I’m proposing the alliance to try to defend more. They have a lot of ressources, hell when I said I had some siege to help them, they linked me around 100 blue prints of each.

I doubt it has anything to do with ressources. It’s only an habit, take every points, but don’t lose time defending it, we will lose it someday anyway. I think we should change this habit to get better.

And don’t lie to me Dovgan :P You are rich like a king! You are one of the reason I started building siege, because I saw you using so many to help us.

And previously, it was easy : You claim the tower, you defend it. That how we were working. But right now, only the alliance can claim the towers/camp, because they can buff it. It’s all good for me, but they should also throw in some blueprint, or at least put someone else in charge.

I am personally not against smaller guild claiming as long as they can release the claim if it is necessary. I think that was the biggest issue the alliance had. Not that people without buff claimed in general, but that they claimed major point structures without them making them harder to defend. And yeah, I have a little gold Kard, just a little.

@Dovgan

I witnessed someone else claiming a tower, and he was spammed and insulted for it. They were insulted because he claimed it without the buff, not because he didn’t defend it. So I think it’s all about the buff.

But the claim isn’t the issue, I’m sure we can work around that, since It’s a good idea ot let the alliance claim it for the buff. I’m sure T . A . R . D could give us a bit more defence.

P.S Send any donation for defense to Kardiamond.6952, we accept gold or ecto.

On the bright side, Kardiamond.6952 is saying many things we’ve also said and agree with in the alliance.

But, I’m not here to debate. There are far more important things happening.

I would argue that in my two days as a commander we have definitely held and fortified positions and I agree with Karda that it s important! However like anvil has said, you have to pick and choose.

The issue doesn’t lie with expense, it’s the supply required to fuel it all. If people stand around waiting for siege to get built it is of no use to us. That is why we can’t fortify everything, a large number of people do not really want to run supply even when asked. I will admit we have seen a huge improvement on that front, but we could still come a little further.

At the end of the day people come to wvw to have fun. I enjoy the thrill of defending against overwhelming odds, and sniping unguarded positions trying to avoid detection. I dont mind running supply because I know it will allow us to keep that wall alive longer or get that counter treb built, etc… But if others dont who am I to tell them otherwise.

On a side note. I’m going to bed, so get online and take over please

@bradderzh That’s right, congrats on the new tag!

@Kardiamond

Wow….Im geting called out for not defending, thats funny.

I did tell everyone not to defend Ogre’s, can you tell me the reason why? Please try to answer

It was 2 very important reasons.

and for the Record when I did tell everyone to leave ogres, Anz’s was already green, so I dont know what your talking about there. Also I went off on the people in EB on Sunday morning because I kept dropping arrow carts in Anz to DEFEND it and noone would build them. I even took Speldans emptied the supply and they kept shoving all the supply in the door.

If you have a problem with something I do, whisper me, come to TS and ask, or go get your own f’n commander tag and try it yourself. I will gladly turn mine off and let you drop 90% of the seige like the rest of the commanders on AR have to do.

PS
Please stop trolling the BP matchup thread. We dont want them here trolling ours.

Thanks

Yesssss, AR… Let the hate flow through you.

Also, stop dropping socks and sweaters when I kill you. NSP are kind enough to drop badges like regular folk.

Man, you guys sure doesn’t take the critic.

I only named you because Anvil Pant called me a “liar”, didn’t mean to get personal with you. You do a pretty good job, tho that time we could have easily pushed NSP out. I know you are aware that attacking a Zerg from behind while they are sieging is deadly for them, and you zerg where like 2-3 min walk away from Anz.

So in my opinion, you did one mistake once, not counting ogrewatch because we defended it by ourselves. Don’t get all emo over it

It’s not the fault of the commanders only, everyone can defend a tower. But you have more responsabilities since you are a PuG magnet.

Your attitude is the reason why I had to defend the alliance to so many players in game. I tried to back the alliance up, but since the exploit I gave up.

And by the way, give me the gold and I will buy it. Also need some for blue print too, and I should be good to go. You attack, I defend. We have a deal

P.S Since I’m trolling in BP thread, why did they all got their post removed except mine? Seems like I didn’t troll that much. :P And I have to defend Anvil Rock in other thread because T . A . R . D(the name of the alliance, not an insult) decided to exploit last week.

I always hated the nonsensical things that Ehmry Bay and Darkhaven players usually posted on these threads over the past few months but I’m kinda missing it after reading all of this opponent infighting. I’m saddened that NSP has fallen into this company..and that’s saying alot when our company used to be Darkhaven.

Reido, don’t get sad over things people post in the forum. Chin up, friend.

@Reido

Man just ease up and watch the show.

GoM AR and NSP don’t have any rivalry going on, so for sure you are missing your other match up!

Kardiamond.6952:

@Reido

Man just ease up and watch the show.

GoM AR and NSP don’t have any rivalry going on, so for sure you are missing your other match up!

we don’t? so you won’t mind going away and fighting NSP instead.

AR has a rivalry with AR.

@ AR folk
How about we discuss internal matters on our server instead of a public forum?

Keyba.9570:

@ AR folk
How about we discuss internal matters on our server instead of a public forum?

Noooooooo, don’t let this thread die!

@keyba

I agree! My bad didn’t mean to start a war here!

@lightsbane

I only attack you when we have a break out event! :p

The Wolfpack and Associates appreciate all of the moral support. Thanks guys. (:

bradderzh.2378:

Wow, I tell you one thing NSP, you set your sights on something you get it. Even at the cost of all else!

We took your trebs down at SM soo many times only to see 2 placed for every one taken down. Every push you made and fell back you came back with even more bodies. The golems you brought to their dooms fell only too see more a half hour later. It was funny that the whole time you tried to take it from us I’m pretty sure AR and GoM had your whole borderlands once each.

I would like to thank all of Anvil rock that helped me hold onto Overlook for the 9hrs I was on (12-9pm). When NPS finally took it and instantly set up a large number ballistas at our spawn many of our guys were pissedoff, but I was happy. We did great

Can I ask one thing? Do you organise your player base to flood one map at a time? I’m not judging the tactic, it obviously works for you guys. The reason I ask is because every time I have hit a map you were not running I have been able to easily 4man your hills and bay without intervention.

Os is probably considered the main WvW force on NSP during Prime time. We work together and others in the server will follow our 30 strong force. Making the players ball up and essentially pain train each map.
But if you haven’t noticed this already NSP is a tiny server and we don’t have a huge influx of bodies to work with.
Just a bunch of highly skilled players who all know their stuff down to a fine art.
NSP in my eyes will always be one of the most skilled servers that I have ever had the honour of being apart of. We’re churning out A class Commanders like crazy due to the Commander Training programme. (although theres a large amount of bad commanders coming in from other servers who barely speak english).

Kardiamond.6952:

Your attitude is the reason why I had to defend the alliance to so many players in game. I tried to back the alliance up, but since the exploit I gave up.

My attitude? Im not the one coming here and making wildly false accusations against my server mates, and calling people out without a clue why they do what they are doing.

jeez we finally get rid of the kith guy and you roll in.

You still havent answered my question!

Why did I tell everyone to leave Ogres?

good to know NSP is leaving ARBL alone and bothering GOM again.

Zoltar.8912:

Sheadong.8217:

Nuh uh GoM, you ain’t gettin’ this tower. And neither are you NSP. Your field rams will not break out spirit. This is [ALS] tower. Not yours.

I’m kind of curious. Is Lou Gehrig’s disease a requirement of your guild?

AHA I see what you did there :P
I’m in ALS and no, I don’t have amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. I’ll prove it to you with my thief

@Bearded

You didn’t get rid of me….I got rid of you…and thankfully I don’t have to deal with a R. E. T. A. R. D. alliance anymore.

Lightsbane.9012:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Reido

Man just ease up and watch the show.

GoM AR and NSP don’t have any rivalry going on, so for sure you are missing your other match up!

we don’t? so you won’t mind going away and fighting NSP instead.

Lol, in this matchup AR has more rivalry with AR than the other two servers we’re suppose to be fighting :eyeroll:

Opc.4718:

Lightsbane.9012:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Reido

Man just ease up and watch the show.

GoM AR and NSP don’t have any rivalry going on, so for sure you are missing your other match up!

we don’t? so you won’t mind going away and fighting NSP instead.

Lol, in this matchup AR has more rivalry with AR than the other two servers we’re suppose to be fighting :eyeroll:

cool, doesn’t stop them from leaving NSP alone.

Morningstar.6208:

We are doing our best at T7 holding 695 points at all times but not much we can do unless GoM fails. So our hearts are with Anvil Rock and NSP these last 3 days. Beat GoM so Devona can give you a real challange

Actually, as of the last projection, you are set to beat GoM out by all of 2 points and get into T6. Those scores are 12 hours old as of this post though. It’s looking like NSP is starting to really open up the lead now that the weekend is over as well so it’s likely to be NSP/AR/DR next week.

We fight NSP and GOM on the same map and win. Thats about all we can do with our numbers. NSP can DO w/e they want they have a huge night crew of of course they can win. it always come down to NUMBERS!

Lmao we don’t have a huge night crew we have an incredibly skilled and dedicated night crew along with a few of us who stay up way late…if you wanna see a big night crew try going against Dragonbrand! Also only if there was friendly fire from what it seems anvil would prefer to attack itself over GOM or us lol that’d be entertaining to watch

GoM absolutely great response time in EB tonight. Hats off to you guys for moving forces as quickly as you guys did. We’ll see if I can misdirect you guys tomorrow.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Yesssss, AR… Let the hate flow through you.

Also, stop dropping socks and sweaters when I kill you. NSP are kind enough to drop badges like regular folk.

i pass on the hate but for the socks and sweaters you may need to wash them there due for it, it’s been over 3 week now.

Dovgan.8605:

GoM absolutely great response time in EB tonight. Hats off to you guys for moving forces as quickly as you guys did. We’ll see if I can misdirect you guys tomorrow.

The night started off in good stride holding off both entrances to Pangloss for a bit, but Gates of Sadness really shined in that hill fight between Valley and Quentin Lake. I hope our server keeps it up.

Oh and respect to that lone AR thief who filled our team chat with so much rage.

@DrSparkles The “zerg blinders” hit at QL, so I knew the wipe was unavoidable, but yeah you guys definitely held your own and pushed in, props to the GoM that were there, some days are harder than others to keep the entire group focused.
I was asked why I pushed GoM later, and the exact reason was indeed Pangloss, but I’m pretty sure you guys knew that, needed to keep you off there so we could continue fortifying overlook, couldn’t keep losing the supply camp.

Dovgan.8605:

@DrSparkles The “zerg blinders” hit at QL, so I knew the wipe was unavoidable, but yeah you guys definitely held your own and pushed in, props to the GoM that were there, some days are harder than others to keep the entire group focused.
I was asked why I pushed GoM later, and the exact reason was indeed Pangloss, but I’m pretty sure you guys knew that, needed to keep you off there so we could continue fortifying overlook, couldn’t keep losing the supply camp.

@Dovgan That actually makes very good sense as the alternative of not holding us at Pangloss could’ve likely been far worse. Likewise, when you factor the speed at which you guys to retook all that land which NSP had captured in that interim I am left with little doubt that it was the best move on your part.

However, what doesn’t make much sense to me is why anyone would’ve given you lip for it.

@DrSparkles Was just questioning it, not really lip. As a Commander I know I need to be able to explain my tactics on occasion, and at the time NSP was mostly done in EB, not really posing a threat, so I really didn’t have the option to not push off GoM while we had upgrades going, and Pang is a far better camp for Overlook than Speldan is. Needed the breathing room on it.

But like I said earlier, your response times were great, tried to flip between Durios and QL, but you guys were on point. Now if I can just get the folks here to understand golems don’t tank on the oil, I’d be golden.

nsp is in realy bad chape on WvW most of the good comander left for more advance tier.
but we still find a way to keep the score on our side tx to Os for there good work on EB.
for the other 2 server plz keep your server problem runnig it help us a lot,we are most of the time outmand buff and stil kick your but by our leet ninja squad .Skill >number and we keep old you down.
Go NSP…..

Singlemalt.4021:

nsp is in realy bad chape on WvW most of the good comander left for more advance tier.
but we still find a way to keep the score on our side tx to Os for there good work on EB.
for the other 2 server plz keep your server problem runnig it help us a lot,we are most of the time outmand buff and stil kick your but by our leet ninja squad .Skill >number and we keep old you down.
Go NSP…..

ya sorry to hear that about your commander’s but keep the fight up i can tell you guys are doing a good job hold stuff and pushing at us. and we do have some epic battle’s.

Singlemalt.4021:

nsp is in realy bad chape on WvW most of the good comander left for more advance tier.
but we still find a way to keep the score on our side tx to Os for there good work on EB.
for the other 2 server plz keep your server problem runnig it help us a lot,we are most of the time outmand buff and stil kick your but by our leet ninja squad .Skill >number and we keep old you down.
Go NSP…..

Since when does NSP bring the number excuse around? You can say that when you are facing Anvil Rock and Gate of Madness!

I would say NSP population is pretty equal to Anvil Rock. We take control in the peak time, and you come back during the off peak time.

Sadly our missing day crew is really hurting us, and NSP capping everything for 6-7 hours get their score going on.

NSP is a really good server, but don’t use the usual “We don’t have the number, we are more skilled” excuse. Please don’t! Every server say that! We all think we have the best players around, we are patriots. And it’s just plain insulting for other server.

I think Anvil Rock have a good population, but sadly most of it are s/tPvPers. We have a huge tPvp population, and sadly, even if they are skilled, they don’t WvW at all, since they consider it “PVE”.

@Bearded Let it go man, it’s over.

P.S : Sometime we do seem to have a Night crew, like 4 hours ago we had most of the map? Weird.

@Kardiamond I think that the"We are outnumbered but we have more skill" thing is pretty normal. He has server pride, I respect that. Last night when I logged off we had very solid momentum, and EB was left in Anvil’s more than capable hands. Really happy to see that the overall momentum carried. When I logged in yesterday we didn’t own anything in EB and we didn’t even have 10 for the break out. When I finally left we were doing really well, all credit to the individual players on AR, all I am is a GPS for people to gather on. Keep fighting the good fight AR, work can’t hold me forever!

@Dovgan

Yeah when I log on after work, I usually see a Green EB, and we have to start over each time

And That’s why I said We are patriot, we all think we are more skilled then other server. But there is a way to say it, and if we want to keep it clean we have to hold ourselves!