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Posted by: EvilSardine.9635

EvilSardine.9635

Alright, so Anet finally got rid of culling and the game is more amazing. Now, the big issue for me and many other people are the long player tags and other useless info on your screen.

Example:
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/57516/gw107.jpg

Why on earth does it need to say “Jade Quarry Invader?” It would be much more pleasant if it just said “JQ Invader.” We’re not dumb! We know who we’re up against if it’s abbreviated.

Also, we really need an option to turn off titles. I don’t care if someone is an Apprentice Toymaker. Can we please have this option? It was honestly enough that it was displayed above their health bar. No one was asking for it to be placed on player tags.

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Posted by: Sunreva.8714

Sunreva.8714

Yes, first and foremost a HUGE thanks for the culling fix, WvW is now so much better!

But I agree, a new problem appears to be screen clutter. Basically, this stems from the long incognito player names, and the titles.

For the latter, the solution is simple. Simply remove titles from the screens, or give an option that allows us to uncheck it.

For the former…regarding long incognito player names [Crystal Desert Invader, ect), the solution would be either to allow an abbreviation option that players can check off—-if they so desire:

Crystal Desert Invader [GUIL] —-> CD Invader [GUIL]

This example here, by simply abbreviating the Crystal Desert to CD, essentially cuts the clutter for this particular name in half. Now multiple this across a zerg, where there are 40 players, and our screens would become so much more easier on the eyes!

(edited by Sunreva.8714)

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Posted by: Minion of Vey.4398

Minion of Vey.4398

Definitely agree with abbreviating all server names in the titles.

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Posted by: Murderin.8269

Murderin.8269

Need an option to disable pet nameplates.

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Posted by: ghostchipz.2341

ghostchipz.2341

i think a nice simple

SOR [guil]

also maybe just color the tag the same as there server color
i.e blue is blue

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Posted by: Khrums.3765

Khrums.3765

or just red, green, blue Invader that blob of text is annoying

please remove text from pets also, few rangers and Necro by self generate a lot

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Posted by: ghostchipz.2341

ghostchipz.2341

ah but what about mesmer clones ?

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Posted by: wookie.8934

wookie.8934

There should perhaps be a way to set the opacity of the names/titles that appear as well.

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Posted by: PetricaKerempuh.7958

PetricaKerempuh.7958

how about this. no names, no titles, just blue/green/red health bar according to what server players belong?

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Posted by: Xonal.5426

Xonal.5426

This isn’t new, the clutter in WvW even with culling was messy.

One big BIG thing they should be doing is scaling the tag based upon distance. Right now it doesn’t matter if a player is 10m or 100m away the text is the same size… scaling the text size down based upon range would get rid of so much of that clutter straight away, as well as giving you the immediate visual information in team fights of the ranges of what is around you.

Secondly. This game shows the tags of pets/neutrals. Got to go.

Then a variety of customization would be nice for disabling titles/guildnames etc.

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Posted by: red.2387

red.2387

This visual noise makes the game unplayable. It was bad before with the whole server name above enemy heads.

If I was going to redesign the tags I would color the tags based on the server color rather than hostility, shorten the server name to say |BG| for Blackgate, and then put the player’s rank in the middle.

So it would just say |BG|Recruit[TAG] in a color based on the server’s color.

Obviously you would have to get rid of green and red as server colors, and replace it with bright orange and maybe magenta or fuchsia

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Posted by: red.2387

red.2387

Most servers already have abbreviations on the forums which would help. Also dropping the Invader part would be nice as well so we basically see something like

JQ [GLD]

You can’t drop invader, that’s the whole point of the rank system.

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Posted by: Cirrus.8357

Cirrus.8357

This isn’t new, the clutter in WvW even with culling was messy.

One big BIG thing they should be doing is scaling the tag based upon distance. Right now it doesn’t matter if a player is 10m or 100m away the text is the same size… scaling the text size down based upon range would get rid of so much of that clutter straight away, as well as giving you the immediate visual information in team fights of the ranges of what is around you.

Secondly. This game shows the tags of pets/neutrals. Got to go.

Then a variety of customization would be nice for disabling titles/guildnames etc.

Both of these, so much. Scaling tags would help so much and getting rid of pet tag clutter too.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

I personally want just a Red/Blue/Green (depending on thier color code) arrow pointing at their heads.

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Posted by: Drakh.3128

Drakh.3128

I personally want just a Red/Blue/Green (depending on thier color code) arrow pointing at their heads.

Except the red and green in this game look identical to anyone red\green colorblind (most common at 8% of men) like myself. How about Red\Blue\Yellow….

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Posted by: aaron.7850

aaron.7850

Red/Blue/Green Invader should work fine, but I agree, something needs to be done. The visual noise is very irritating

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Posted by: Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

Most servers already have abbreviations on the forums which would help. Also dropping the Invader part would be nice as well so we basically see something like

JQ [GLD]

You can’t drop invader, that’s the whole point of the rank system.

Again, I think that just like people can display their Titles, WvW Ranks should be the same.

I too think the abbreviated server name and guild tag is all that is needed, and all player need to know. If they want to know their WvW Rank each player should have an option to turn that on or off, and same with Titles.

Keep the info short, sweet and to the point, as all servers run in zergs ther ereally is no point giving full into on every single player, that’s why we now have this tagging clutter.

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Posted by: drkn.3429

drkn.3429

Just use binds for targeting (next / closest / previous). At least this cluster now shows you how many enemies you have to fight, as opposed to seeing five names over three toons in front of an invisible zerg of forty.

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Posted by: sil.4160

sil.4160

remove the name tags and just have color (red/blue/green) arrow icon point at their head

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Posted by: soistheman.7208

soistheman.7208

I also think be able to see name tag far away is another problem. Now it’s too easy to detect players. Name tag should only appear when distance is close enough. (not too close though)

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Just have titles appear (under names) on whoever you have selected at the time. That way you can only ever see one title on the screen no matter how many players are around.

In fact this would even help with identifying your target in a crowd a little more.

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Posted by: Anat.1765

Anat.1765

Just have titles appear (under names) on whoever you have selected at the time. That way you can only ever see one title on the screen no matter how many players are around.

In fact this would even help with identifying your target in a crowd a little more.

This is the title solution, I can’t appreciate the titles of 40 people charging anyway.

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Posted by: fivekiller.1432

fivekiller.1432

The best solution i’ve found is to AOE into them until they thin out and it looks much less cluttered.

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Posted by: Pvp.2758

Pvp.2758

Bump because something needs to be done about this ASAP

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Posted by: Talia.7412

Talia.7412

Weird when tags are a higher priority than the toons themselves. Oft I see just tags running around till the toons eventually appear. But I guess it’s for practical purposes. Nonetheless, yes I agree with the OP. The tags are way too long.

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Posted by: Sovereign.1093

Sovereign.1093

tags like chat, should remain in one’s server sight.

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Posted by: Lydon.1890

Lydon.1890

Agreed! In my opinion, the best solution would be to only display the title of your target. Further abbreviations of server names would also be welcome, as well as scaling of name size based upon distance.

Last night was absolute mayhem when everyone logged into WvW to try out the changes…you couldn’t see a thing with the text from large zergs obscuring everything.

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Posted by: Meryt.9823

Meryt.9823

You’re already able to turn off tags for friendly and/or enemy players; though that leaves “Team Colours” the only way to determine which server, and is only effective at much closer distance.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Weird when tags are a higher priority than the toons themselves. Oft I see just tags running around till the toons eventually appear. But I guess it’s for practical purposes. Nonetheless, yes I agree with the OP. The tags are way too long.

That is part of the “no culling” design. The tag never culls, but the character model can still not be loaded yet.

Anyway… I’d say shorten the name to just server. Dont need defender or invader, it doesnt matter. If we’re on our own borderland we bloody well know they’re all invaders. This name should also be about 2 points smaller than the guild tag, and fade with distance. It should just barely be visible at max range. Titles only display on targetted characters. For friendlies, a similar thing is done but of course the name is kept.

(edited by Dawdler.8521)

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Posted by: gassy.8975

gassy.8975

Geez that screenshot speaks volumes. Please do something about this.

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Posted by: Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

Geez that screenshot speaks volumes. Please do something about this.

That screenshot is nothing. Watch this video posted by XxX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPhilVadk5M set to 720p or 1080p then skip to 6:06 into the video, unless you want to watch the entire thing.

Now that’s an infestation! And this is T4, the pest controllers must be rolling in it in T1.

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Posted by: slingblade.1437

slingblade.1437

I also think be able to see name tag far away is another problem. Now it’s too easy to detect players. Name tag should only appear when distance is close enough. (not too close though)

IMO it’s always been too easy to detect players (when they were not culled) because of the nameplate. It’s silly that you can’t hide behind an object unless it’s 10-15 feet wide because of your nameplate sticking out. IMO if the player’s body can’t be seen due to an obstruction, the nameplate shouldn’t be visible either.

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Posted by: Zyphent.2967

Zyphent.2967

Option to remove pet nameplates is an excellent idea.

I’d also like titles to show up on hover (like the map completion star), that way people can still show them off, but they’re not cluttering.

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Posted by: Brassnautilus.2941

Brassnautilus.2941

name tags are horizontal, toons are vertically oriented.
Which guy was unidentifiable on the first ss?

perhaps if you wanted less clutter, take the XXX server invader red banner off
make the title line less opaque, but that will make fighting some classes (pets, clones) harder…

it’s fine the way it is. you don’t need to click when zerging. If the engagement was smaller, they wouldn’t be in the way.

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Posted by: OutspokenAardvark.9781

OutspokenAardvark.9781

This isn’t new, the clutter in WvW even with culling was messy.

One big BIG thing they should be doing is scaling the tag based upon distance. Right now it doesn’t matter if a player is 10m or 100m away the text is the same size… scaling the text size down based upon range would get rid of so much of that clutter straight away, as well as giving you the immediate visual information in team fights of the ranges of what is around you.

Secondly. This game shows the tags of pets/neutrals. Got to go.

Then a variety of customization would be nice for disabling titles/guildnames etc.

I want this so badly.

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Posted by: KrisHQ.4719

KrisHQ.4719

Oh come on.. Name clutter is there to actually show you how many people there are.
I dont really care about it, imo it would be worse just seeing abbreviations.
I like the suggestion proposed by Xonal though, would be a neat feature

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Posted by: Woaden.9425

Woaden.9425

I proposed a change to this in the suggestion thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/newtopic

put circles above players heads, not long names and titles.

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Posted by: EvilSardine.9635

EvilSardine.9635

I would be happy with just having enemies have their guild tag above their head in the color of their server. That would be the best.

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Posted by: Graybes.8251

Graybes.8251

Agreed!

First add an option to turn the titles of players on/off. I’m talking about the “Master Crafter” and such titles. Then abbreviate the server name. That should do wonders for the clutter.

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Posted by: Pvp.2758

Pvp.2758

Update today and still no fix!

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Posted by: Cottage Pie.6215

Cottage Pie.6215

U jelly of my combat healer title.

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Posted by: inBloom.2304

inBloom.2304

Will this ever happen?

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

Loosmaster.8263

No!!! Quit digging up old posts and go play the game in all its Glory…


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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

Will this ever happen?

Its been 1 year. What do you think?

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Posted by: thaooo.5320

thaooo.5320

No!!! Quit digging up old posts and go play the game in all its Glory…

Glory was removed from the game before the big feature patch

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Posted by: Hvaran.6327

Hvaran.6327

Tags maybe need some changes (i’m ok with them actually)
But do not
=totally remove tags. Rank, guild etc provides fast info about enemie. IF we could make rank shorter (maybe some symbols for each category – bronze 1 star, silver 2 stars as army got etc), server name as abreviation is good idea (IN OPTIONS).

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Posted by: bob.8632

bob.8632

No!!! Quit digging up old posts and go play the game in all its Glory…

This kid gets so mad….God forbid people bring up old post, as opposed to the normal: reposting the same thing with new threads each week….