Guild Wars 2

Hello,

after a big discuss and a vote, 90% of Grand Cross guilds decided to

NOT FOCUS DESOLATION, AND LET SFR COME IN T1

Effective: now

Why : because we want to stay the most neutral possible, because we have sense of justice, because we want to do this epic fight, even if they decide to focus us.

What will we do: ask Vizunah to stay the most neutral possible and prepare for war.
Make action for this ingame.

For Elonian’s friends: we will never do lame things to you, we will just play as usual. We always respected you and your neutrality. We speak about you a lot in GC.

If it must be our Last Stand, we will do it with honor !

if it must be our last stand we will do it to the death ! +1

tip of a hat

It pays little meaning for myself whether we go to T1 or not and I know inside community many of us feel the same, mostly I guess because we know how strong VS is in score management. It is good to see the passion in the game as long as you have the fun. SFR made before cancelled reset a decision to go for a deliberate drop on T2 because we know we would be having a hard time competing score with you guys and thought we get faster back to top tiers that way – well that backfired a “bit” and it was rather funny after all that effort but to escort lone enemies to your towers.

Anyways, I at least enjoy the challenges and good fights – there has been plenty of those in T2 lately and I am sure if and when we get to T1 there will be plenty alike.
Manipulating score and joining forces is a essence of 3 servers, strong ones get focused and yes, should be even focused if they are going too strong. Think how boring flames we would have with 1v1 server matches… “ kitten you ally with quaggans all the time!”..ermm. Now these are entertaining to the least.

So best of luck you T1 servers, have a good fights and hopefully seeing you all soon in a field of battle – always nice to get loot bags from new opponents.

Cheers,

Musta Surma
Guild leader of [Hovi], part of [RIP] alliance
SFR

now deso you know what to do. launch the karma train our doors are opened
be fast.

Faith in humanity restored.

Might be too late tho :/

Why : because we want to stay the most neutral possible, because we have sense of justice, because we want to do this epic fight, even if they decide to focus us.

What kind of ppl do you think convince with that ?

Wothan.4673:

What kind of ppl do you think convince with that ?

You are free to take whatever you want from anything that is provided to you out there.

You are free to have any belief you have.

I guess it can be helped to have some people thinking Troma is a guru and responsible for any action by Vizunah server.

Now you have a decision made by a part of the Vizunah server after a vote (that requires time, you see).

You are free to do whatever you want with that.

Wothan.4673:

Why : because we want to stay the most neutral possible, because we have sense of justice, because we want to do this epic fight, even if they decide to focus us.

What kind of ppl do you think convince with that ?

Glad to see that when you are the one helped you find it right.

You know me a little Wothan, and you know i think it. But for more details: Vizunah WvW guilds need, love challenge, and can’t wait for very hard battles, even if we had to be focused. A GC Guild lost members because lack of challenge and had almost stopped the game.

So by our point of view, we know SFR has to come this week or the other. So let them come now and let us face this.

bit late isnt it? rofl

aww so sad, IRON is doing guild mission now despite having almost 100 people online.

Too late, Troma. Too late to play role of noble knight. And u know it :P

btw SFR couldn’t care less about VS. They’re after IRON, GH and VoTF. That’s for sure

I don’t play a role but we needed 1h30 to discuss about it, 20 min to vote. Really.

Troma.3250:

Hello,

after a big discuss and a vote, 90% of Grand Cross guilds decided to

NOT FOCUS DESOLATION, AND LET SFR COME IN T1

Effective: now

Why : because we want to stay the most neutral possible, because we have sense of justice, because we want to do this epic fight, even if they decide to focus us.

What will we do: ask Vizunah to stay the most neutral possible and prepare for war.
Make action for this ingame.

For Elonian’s friends: we will never do lame things to you, we will just play as usual. We always respected you and your neutrality. We speak about you a lot in GC.

If it must be our Last Stand, we will do it with honor !

too bad Vislona’s lost all their credibility. you’re known say the things people wants to hear to cover up all your un-sportmanship behaviour. Sorry, but we can’t take your word on it. we’ll believe it when we see it.

Really funny.

Vizunah “decide” to let this happen 5h before reset, after focusing desolation only for a whole day.

More bullkitten maybe ? Or it’s enough ?

look the score !

up to deso and sfr to do their job now

Think what you want man, but let me describe what happened :

1) big discuss ingame, GC forum
2) Oxi (WL raidleader) make a TS meeting to talk about it
3) 1h30 of talking about it
4) the vote on GC forum
5) my post here

i’m not a fakin politician, i’m a gamer. I have nothing to win, no real money, no fame. Just fun. It’s your right to hate us as you want, we are used to. But when i tell you the truth, try to listen to me

Enhancer.1385:

look the score !

up to deso and sfr to do their job now

What has Deso to do with this? If anything, Desolation should focus Vizunah as always, although it’s obviously useless anyway from a scoring position point of view.

Yeah well, you didn’t need a meeting to let BE cap everything and focus deso.

Just bullkitten as always from you.

And it’s probably too late now.

Too late for this funy thread .But just to make sure you should have posted in 3 hours from now

Jomg: you’re filled with hate, starting to disgust me

graverr: timing was hard, we will see

Oh dude!

That fake post you made on french forum about RNV and Sac from RG…….

U dont need such things to motivate your troops.

So bad.

Hmm nop Lani, i never use fake or kitten like this:

I’ve already said this, I’ll said once more : hate never builds.

Also, Grand Cross is not Vizunah. Grand Cross is a part of Vizunah. People are free.

Wow.

Well, looks like a mad guy sent you this.

Ahahahaa .Really ? And you guys on vizunah fell right for it .
You guys are so funny

graverr.6473:

Ahahahaa .Really ? And you guys on vizunah fell right for it .

Do you ever stumble upon Sacrx posts before they get deleted ?

Zepolak.2095:

Also, Grand Cross is not Vizunah. Grand Cross is a part of Vizunah. People are free.

Yeah, no focus against deso but I planned to listen some german songs this night … ;D

< not from GC >

Troma.3250:

Jomg: you’re filled with hate, starting to disgust me

graverr: timing was hard, we will see

You’re the disgusting one actually.

“Hey guys, let BE cap everything they want for a whole day, then near the end i’ll do a post saying we’re playing for neutrality” .

You have 0 credibility and all you say are bullkitten. It’s just a simple fact.
It’s even more funny when u talk about honor .

“Hey guys, there is Jomg on the official forum, he think i can control a whole server while i’m at work”

“lol”

You came here as a representative of your server, why should we give a kitten about what you did today ? Oo

It’s just natural to judge you about what your server did for a day (Be almost tic at 500 and deso 0 lol) both couldn’t occur without vizunah pulling the string.

So yes, i know what you’ll say next ’Gc is not vizunah and vizunah do what they want and blabla".

Yet you need 2h meeting to “be neutral”, you didn’t need any to help Be score that hight.

So in the end, everything you say it’s just bullkitten, and if you don’t realize that on your own you have a big mental issue.

Man think a little… Grand Cross is very big, but it’s not the whole server…

and read my other posts, we had to discuss, to vote etc. Do some empathy and imagine being in my role a little, kittening hard. Sometimes i feel like a politician, in a GAME?

Now i have to go eat and take a break, try to think a little bit more of the situation and stop putting hate in everything. Hate don’t build, like Zepolak said. Doing things with heart do.

Nice to see some old heads and welcome to the new haters.

I missed you guyz.

Well, before the thread is closed due to yet another situation of kittentalking, I guess people have the position of one of the component of Vizunah and there’s hardly anything to discuss about it.

As people enjoy playing rather than having meetings and such, there will be quite some time before you have any other such ‘official stance’, I guess.

And people are free to believe any temporary 2v1 in the game are some complex scheme created by some obviously evil force. And they will always be.

For now, there is 4h remaining until the reset, and a very small amount of rating points difference. Maybe there’s something to do, maybe not. It reminds me of the week when the victory in T1 was only decided on Friday at ~23h. Was pretty exciting, although it was a loss for us.

Have fun, all !

I’m sorry to say,

But if you wanted to stay neutrally there shouldn’t have been a vote in the first place.
Your leaders should not even have accepted this – but they did went along with it anyways.

I can see where a lot of people here are coming from tbh.

no thx.
we won’t play with the most boooring server.

There are no second thoughts, political plays or hidden messages in Troma’s post.

GC is big and GC always acts like a democracy. It needs time to take a decision, and even more time to see it happen in game.

GC is not Vizunah, Our actions are limited and our words are only here as an information. There is no need for a debate.

Cheers

So you try to clear face with this topic? Honestly we dont care we had a blast today even when we recognized we will not move t1. So 1 more week for you to sweat it over.
And yeah we are coming have fun thinking about it. Dominating heavily t2 does not mean we are bored man I had one of my best days today in wvw so much fun badges and loot were a bonus. But soon you will see the footage in youtube.
So say what you want VZ we know the truth…

Troma.3250:

Do you really think we will let the two servers focus us without doing nothing?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/23-02-Vizunah-Elona-Desolation-T1-EU/page/2#post1547119

Troma, you publicly stated that you will not admit SFR into T1 because you are afraid of being double-teamed.

Now you turn around 180 and say the opposit. And you ask me why I call you a manipulator?
Your posts are noting but politics!

Truly, a noble attitude. And you wonder why SFR hates you.

Who da hell needs VS, for what? pluck out you from T3 keeps when all your map in? Screw that, we need Desolation’s strong wvw guilds not yours paper pugs.

he didn’t turn around
he just proclaim a vote he didn’t took part in as a leader

Grok : at this moment, there was 2 raidleaders ingame : one for it, one against it. And i received a lot of messages from SFR nice players talking about the focus. A VoTF sent me tonight too, to talk about the future deso/SFR double focus.

The only thing i said in my post is: we won’t do nothing and watch you kill us.

nice timing should have waited 10 min before reset and do it

Vizunah has been lied to and missinformed by people pretending to give this god fearing stand up citizen Troma BleuBleu information about people wishing the demise of VS server. Those plans are true and in effect but not Desolation and not SFR are the insigators they are manipulated by a ultra secret alliance made by Jade Quarry who cant stand the fact that theyre not the most winning server and Elona reach who went for german efficiency get T1 spot when 2 others are fighting;)
So Visunah you fell into Jade Quarry and Elona reach plans. I am disappointed Troma didnt thought of this..he needs new meeting fast.
The only truth is that Desolation and SFR cannot wait to fight eachother on the open field. Bouth would love to include VS but except for WL guild none of them come out of keeps unless is 2am.
Best of luck to all and i hope new 3w patch will come soon so that we will have something else to focus on.

Bure-SFR

This post is useless.

Cipaku.9675:

Bouth would love to include VS but except for WL guild none of them come out of keeps unless is 2am.

to be fair, they also come out when they’re 50 vs 10 and have 8 golems to take a wooden briar with…

Sacrx.6721:

Lol this is a good thread!. Funny reading JoL forums thinking we going to somehow slack. It would of been nice to come up this week but not to worry next week will be. Elona viz will drop you like a sack of spuds when they go t2 and your coming upto t1. Also dont forget we will let you win t1 when you come back up for Viz.

This just gives me time to focus everything all week on JS so kodash come 2nd and then when elona come down they go t3 after double german focus just for some love i give to JS. Then i look forward to seeing Viz and js together in t2.

And if all that fails, you could always transfer to another server, right?

What Viz is scared about is that the beast of skill you are make the WvW crash because of his awesomeness.

Awesomeness or ragenergy :o

you will find out yourself