Guild Wars 2

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

I bet you guys thought the same when IOJ married you guys. Then T2 happened.

dreztina.4820:

Setsunayaki.4907:

I like finding you in the field (Maguma’s OG guild) but you play dirty. We started looking for you because you made claims about how you could win in even fights. Last time we encountered you we sat two of our players down so you could have a squared-even fight. When your health started getting low, you tried to gank the players that were sitting down that were not fighting directly with you.

The fact remains that good or bad, your server’s score was wiped out.

I am not doing some “oh yeah, we pwn you all”, considering we could go to another tier and lose out, to be zapped back to the same tier as you. Guess what, it already happened and the players here agree those fights were a million times better than encounters with you.

Sure you have your good guilds and all, but the fact remains you aren’t doing your server favors in the way you play. It might be laughs when you stealth gank players across the field, but it doesn’t translate to the PP your server needs.

You do know that Thursday nights guilds across the three servers in the tier set up the vs combat between 2v2s and 5v5s in WvW. You could find some fun there on the field, rather than roaming, cause it really hurts your group when one of you die and the others still are on the field. Trust me, I know how it feels.

I am on FA itself, but we are all gamers here and some of us here like small, structured groups and I always look for good 5v5s out there on the field. Its not always a zergball.

Well, have fun.
See you on the field.

Edit: Edited for clarity and to be specific.

I still don’t have any idea who you are. Can’t respond to what you are saying when you don’t post your guild tag so we can actually know what fights you’re talking about.

Niim.9260:

Imo the only thing that will change the size and number of zergs is going to be the WvW progression system. If they implement it so that a kill is worth a set number of points divided by the number of people involved its death, then small groups will become more popular. If they leave it as it is now with full xp on kill for everyone, then zergs will likely become even more popular.

“Colin: WvW updates will not introduce new skills. Will bring passive abilities aimed towards group play eg. Extra supply #foodwars”

This was just posted recently. Doesn’t make me very hopeful for the future of competitive wvw play. If they are aiming the progression abilities towards zerg play, then they’ll probably aim the progression itself towards zerging too.

With you here. Got to feed dat zerg apparently. Only hope is if adds a bunch of support stuff that will open up play a little.

Ninein.4782:

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

I bet you guys thought the same when IOJ married you guys. Then T2 happened.

FA is a polygamist, didn’t you know?

Teamkiller.4315:

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

you really AREN’T doing much. Lol. The only thing I’ve seen OG do is roam, and roaming rarely caps towers, keeps, and SMC.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

You overestimate the amount of times that we see OG tags. Yes, we do run after you, and you can be certain that there’ll be a few of us that break off the zerg to chase down one of you, but you also have to realize that we have multiple times your population as well, so in the end you’re not doing much.

And to be honest. I don’t typically see this from Dragonbrand, I typically only see it from FA. Furthermore, I’d like to point out that while you may be helping (you overestimate your contribution, but yes you do contribute) in the field, you are hurting your server by forum warrior’ing and provoking the wrath of the FA zerg.

Have you noticed that you’ve been focused down much more often by us than Dragonbrand has? Even though dragonbrand was outmanned and you weren’t?

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

You’re pretty arrogant.

There’s more than just your zerg out there. Maybe you don’t see us every run, but I guarantee you, someone’s zerg does. And yes, you are correct, you have a significantly higher population. How is a small guild going to impact the score when hugely outnumbered, except by doing things that neutralize far greater numbers? It’s not like if OG decided to start for the realming Maguuma would magically be able to keep up in score with FA/DB.

And, hate to break it to you, but DB does it just as much. We wiped a pretty nice sized DB zerg three or four times last night because they chased us all the way across the map straight up to our spawn.

You may say that claim is arrogant, but I say it’s just the truth.

Ninein.4782:

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

I bet you guys thought the same when IOJ married you guys. Then T2 happened.

Nope. See unlike you guys…who want to drop down to Tier 4 for some crazy reason, we want to go back to Tier 2, even if we get facerolled.

That is what separates us from you. We want to face bigger forces to have something to do. We don’t care if we lose by 100k.

You guys want to drop down to T4 to have smaller fights…but you guys are going to faceroll T4, because your closest T4 opponent(YB) will move up…

Straaange…..

Ninein.4782:

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

I bet you guys thought the same when IOJ married you guys. Then T2 happened.

No, we were very aware of our coverage gaps for T2 after IoJ and FA merged. We just like the fighting style there a lot more and obviously the coverage in T2 is better (better = more) so we get to have more fights so we were very excited to have an opportunity to move from T3 to T2. We want to get there again even though we don’t expect to win with our existing coverage structure.

@ Crystalpink – I think he meant NNK and DB should join FA in WvW not in forum battling.

@ OG guy – rubbing his kitten raw; lol.

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

Reality

I miss T2 very much so, the fights were amazing, and we got a chance to fight some really great guilds on BG.

We are well aware of our coverage issues during SEA/EU prime, and we are doing our best to fix it. FA will never be a T2 server unless we get organized forces on at those times. We are doing what we can.

Sadly there isnt a 6th T1/T2 server with the coverage to compete in T2. So there will always be a server stomping T3, and always a server getting stomped in T2. FA is a better choice to get the coverage, simply because we have a lot more oceanic coverage than TC. Doing this will create an equal fight in T2.

Speaking of people loving us.

Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?

Bunzy.8674:

Speaking of people loving us.

Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?

We just find you guys comical.

All this self promotive talk about how good you guys are and a bunch of lackluster videos.

Then you want to challenge anyone to a 5vs5, but no more than that…dude go to pvp! Not that I blame you entirely for not wanting to go to pvp with the issues with ele’s as it stands I guess…

This and you want to move down a tier…which is odd figuring its pretty easy to wipe larger forces with your 5. Although we don’t see too much of that from you guys…

Just comedy bro.

dreztina.4820:

Niim.9260:

Imo the only thing that will change the size and number of zergs is going to be the WvW progression system. If they implement it so that a kill is worth a set number of points divided by the number of people involved its death, then small groups will become more popular. If they leave it as it is now with full xp on kill for everyone, then zergs will likely become even more popular.

“Colin: WvW updates will not introduce new skills. Will bring passive abilities aimed towards group play eg. Extra supply #foodwars”

This was just posted recently. Doesn’t make me very hopeful for the future of competitive wvw play. If they are aiming the progression abilities towards zerg play, then they’ll probably aim the progression itself towards zerging too.

Yea I saw that as well. I didn’t really expect anything but horizontal progression in these kinds of abilities, and being passive does not necessarily mean they are not worth getting. What is important to me is that it is not some half-kitten implementation of a handful of abilities that no one cares about. I am expecting that, but I am hopeful for a nice selection of rewards/benefits that are worth working towards for all styles of play.

Bunzy.8674:

Speaking of people loving us.

Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?

And now that you copied my gear look.. everyone thinks I’m you and they focus me!! I’m not bunzy!! I’m the skinny Sylvari, he’s the fat one!

If FA thinks they’re winning because they’re better, do they think they lost T2 every time because they’re bad? Did their pvp skills really improve the instant they dropped down a tier? I really don’t get the obsession with score from some people who must realize that wvw score is based on population and coverage.

I think a lot of us on Maguuma just enjoy smaller group play, like taking keeps with 4 people. Learning how to bust terrible zergs has been fun, but the matchup itself is incredibly predictable and boring. It’s like clockwork at this point.

If we drop down a tier, we’re probably going to stomp there in terms of score and be back the following week. I don’t think we’re going to be less bored in that matchup, but it will be something new at least.

Rhoto.8791:

Bunzy.8674:

Speaking of people loving us.

Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?

And now that you copied my gear look.. everyone thinks I’m you and they focus me!! I’m not bunzy!! I’m the skinny Sylvari, he’s the fat one!

I have a crown now because I am King of the Eles

Time for a brief lesson on fighting zergs as a small force.

There are two primary group strategies for dealing with greater numbers. One is to run a very strong brawling comp with a lot of aoe damage. The other is to run an extremely mobile comp which can engage and disengage at will.

The upsides of the sturdy high aoe damage comp is that it has the potential to straight up hit a zerg and kill them all. It generally makes use of a balanced mix of glass cannons and pure tank/support builds. When well coordinated, this strategy can be extremely effective. The downside to this comp is that it quires a certain amount of people before it becomes strong enough to really stand up to the zergs, and once committed, it’s very difficult to disengage without losing people. AoN probably does this better than anyone else in the game.

The high mobility comp is a bit different. The core idea isn’t to straight up kill zergs, but rather to string them out and kill while extending until the enemy force is diminished to the point that you can push and finish them off. The upside to it is that there’s no threshold to meet with numbers, it plays the same way with one person as it does with 10. Also, it tends to stay alive a lot longer because of the disengage potential. The downside is that it doesn’t have the raw strength to fight a zerg straight up. If they don’t chase, this comp isn’t able to do much except pick people off here and there. This is the strategy that OG favors just because of the playstyle of many of the members suits it.

Hopefully now you better understand zerg fighting strategies. Connect the dots as you will.

Rhoto.8791:

I’m not bunzy!! I’m the skinny Sylvari, he’s the fat one!

Fat sylvari? I demand a pic of Bunzy, please!
I thought all sylvari are skinny xD

etrigan.4213:

Bunzy.8674:

Speaking of people loving us.

Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?

We just find you guys comical.

All this self promotive talk about how good you guys are and a bunch of lackluster videos.

Then you want to challenge anyone to a 5vs5, but no more than that…dude go to pvp! Not that I blame you entirely for not wanting to go to pvp with the issues with ele’s as it stands I guess…

This and you want to move down a tier…which is odd figuring its pretty easy to wipe larger forces with your 5. Although we don’t see too much of that from you guys…

Just comedy bro.

Well I fully admit it’s harder to do in this tier. In tier 4 we would roam and engage with groups of 10-15 players consistantly, and wipe them. In this tier its usually 20+ (which we definitely consider a zerg). Also 50% of the time we’ll engage in a small fight and before you know it we get culling bombed by 30+. Even that used to not be much of a problem because we could kite larger groups like that around the map while they dwindled down in numbers, but now that people have had months of experience in WvW they finally have learned how to spam immobolize, chill, and confusion bomb. When your little 5 man has those conditions against 30 ppl.. your pretty much screwed. This is why we want to move back down to Tier 4, the groups we ran into roaming, were a bit smaller, while still outnumbering us.

kfarb.6732:

If FA thinks they’re winning because they’re better, do they think they lost T2 every time because they’re bad? Did their pvp skills really improve the instant they dropped down a tier? I really don’t get the obsession with score from some people who must realize that wvw score is based on population and coverage.

I think a lot of us on Maguuma just enjoy smaller group play, like taking keeps with 4 people. Learning how to bust terrible zergs has been fun, but the matchup itself is incredibly predictable and boring. It’s like clockwork at this point.

If we drop down a tier, we’re probably going to stomp there in terms of score and be back the following week. I don’t think we’re going to be less bored in that matchup, but it will be something new at least.

We came in third in T2, yes, but our rating actually went up that week. The reason we aren’t in T2 anymore is because Kain leap frogged us into T2.

We have the best coverage in this tier, yes, but I also think we have more guilds with better tactics in this tier as well. That is not to say we don’t have our groups who still need to work on a few things and also not saying that DB or Mag doesn’t have any groups with good tactics.

Numbers win, that’s what it comes down to. We have more numbers then DB and Mags in general, but I also think we have more numbers of skilled and organized people as well.

Kind of just a lesson in probability, there…

Waking.6052:

Hey, TG. Are you the TG that was hanging out in FA BL tonight? Drgn enjoyed fighting you.

Yes we were. We had fun fighting you guys. We were about to leave for other borderlands before we took your tower because all you guys seemed to do was stay in the tower when you had us outnumbered (except when we had the GvG fights with [Drgn]).

honestly when you are either outnumbering the other server or hitting half upgraded keeps, you (FA) dont really need to demonstrate any real skills or strategy to the other servers. we have seen maybe 80-90% of all your tactics after 2-3 weeks of fighting you and not much has changed.

by 5am EST FA would outnumber mag and db and turn everything green
by 7am DB wakes up and turn everything blue
noon EST we take everything back and play wack-a-mole trying to upgrade stuff
7pm FA hops in our BL and start attacking, there is also a small but significant force of DB hitting us.
after this i do not know cuze i usually go do other stuff cuze swirling treb shots for hour on ends is no fun

First week we played FA we actually tried to keep our stuff on our BL and we were able to hold on to it for 8+hours but like many of you said, its just a game and its no fun defending like that knowing that by 5am and for the next 7hours everything will get continuously flipped.

Is Maguuma trying to tank to steal Yaks spot in T4. Kind of sounds like it. That is low, we earned having good matches for a while by getting run over by the bandwagon freight train of both Kain and Mag, and then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming and then want back down when they can’t hack it.

Pendragon.8735:

then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming

Wrong, try again!

Pendragon.8735:

Is Maguuma trying to tank to steal Yaks spot in T4. Kind of sounds like it. That is low, we earned having good matches for a while by getting run over by the bandwagon freight train of both Kain and Mag, and then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming and then want back down when they can’t hack it.

Only one of the servers you listed actually asked for the wagoners.

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming

Wrong, try again!

What was the aim of all the people Mag picked up then?

ower.9143:

Magiofdeath.2745:

Waking.6052:

Farout.8207:

I would be happy if FA went to tier 2 but I am afraid we are stuck with them for a while. But even if they move up and TC moved down to join us it will be pretty much the same deal. Same goes for you guys, if you move down to tier 4 you will dominate and the match will get stale. Both DB and Mag are in a pretty crappy spot. Overpowered servers above us and underpowered below.

Do what we did. Join forces and create Maguumabrand.

Or Draguuma.

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

There’s only 1 guild on our server that I’ve seen consistently cry out about this, they’re just the most outspoken around here… most of us enjoy our community quite well.

Pendragon.8735:

Is Maguuma trying to tank to steal Yaks spot in T4. Kind of sounds like it. That is low, we earned having good matches for a while by getting run over by the bandwagon freight train of both Kain and Mag, and then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming and then want back down when they can’t hack it.

Mag 2.0 is dead. Unfortunately, if we do drop down to t4, I have a sinking feeling that players will start to come out of the woodworks, catapulting us back into t3. Where they will promptly disappear again.

Pendragon.8735:

saiyr.3071:

Pendragon.8735:

then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming

Wrong, try again!

What was the aim of all the people Mag picked up then?

There were only two guilds we actually liked and wanted: SM and WaR (sorry if I’m forgetting someone here). Everyone else came purely of their own accord, and that’s where the huge population swell came from. That anti-recruiting thread was not a joke. Many of us didn’t want to move up. You are right that we can’t “kick it” in T3 with our numbers, but to say that we really really wanted to make it here is just not right. Unless some sneaky jerks were recruiting a lot without us knowing!

etrigan.4213:

Bunzy.8674:

Speaking of people loving us.

Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?

We just find you guys comical.

All this self promotive talk about how good you guys are and a bunch of lackluster videos.

Then you want to challenge anyone to a 5vs5, but no more than that…dude go to pvp! Not that I blame you entirely for not wanting to go to pvp with the issues with ele’s as it stands I guess…

This and you want to move down a tier…which is odd figuring its pretty easy to wipe larger forces with your 5. Although we don’t see too much of that from you guys…

Just comedy bro.

I always enjoy when I get to fight OG in a fair even numbered fight… Wait… As soon as its a fair even numbered fight they run… My bad.

Pendragon.8735:

Is Maguuma trying to tank to steal Yaks spot in T4. Kind of sounds like it. That is low, we earned having good matches for a while by getting run over by the bandwagon freight train of both Kain and Mag, and then they get up to where supposedly they were aiming and then want back down when they can’t hack it.

A few transfers and pvers queuing up for part of a weeks match is less of a freight train and more like a short bus ride through the international district, hoping that smelly Yaks server doesn’t sit next to you.

I’m pretty sure you all spend too much time arguing and not enough time putting golems on supply depots.

Teamkiller.4315:

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

you really AREN’T doing much. Lol. The only thing I’ve seen OG do is roam, and roaming rarely caps towers, keeps, and SMC.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

You overestimate the amount of times that we see OG tags. Yes, we do run after you, and you can be certain that there’ll be a few of us that break off the zerg to chase down one of you, but you also have to realize that we have multiple times your population as well, so in the end you’re not doing much.

And to be honest. I don’t typically see this from Dragonbrand, I typically only see it from FA. Furthermore, I’d like to point out that while you may be helping (you overestimate your contribution, but yes you do contribute) in the field, you are hurting your server by forum warrior’ing and provoking the wrath of the FA zerg.

Have you noticed that you’ve been focused down much more often by us than Dragonbrand has? Even though dragonbrand was outmanned and you weren’t?

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

You’re pretty arrogant.

OG is and always well be a “small” (by small I mean less than 25 active players, we are by no means built to fight t3 and higher zergs with our numbers but we have adapted) roaming guild. OG did not come from a zerg tier. We came from a tier where it wasnt 5v30. We are some of the subset of players who want to go back to lower tiers to get away from this zerg fest. Believe it or not, in lower tiers our groups get more accomplished when it isnt always 5v30.

Being in a zerg ball of players doesnt always mean your getting more done. If anything I see zergs wipe and its an enormous setback, more so than organizing a 5man group together again. While we may not capture SM on the daily we make sure we hold at least 15 points in supply camps while we are on the BL. Thats contributing to the team is it not? A consist 15tick the whole time we are there. Even if we never own any of the castles around the supply camps, mag zergs get an easy supply run when needed.

Kyrime.6958:

I’m pretty sure you all spend too much time arguing and not enough time putting golems on supply depots.

lol

Don’t tell me that Mag has turned to the Great Lord Alpha & Omega Siege Golem now instead of the Great Lord Flame Ram xD

crystalpink.2487:

Kyrime.6958:

I’m pretty sure you all spend too much time arguing and not enough time putting golems on supply depots.

lol

Don’t tell me that Mag has turned to the Great Lord Alpha & Omega Siege Golem now instead of the Great Lord Flame Ram xD

Those are guard golems for the ram lord, kind of like the dog statues on Ghost Busters.

Mike.7320:

Teamkiller.4315:

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

you really AREN’T doing much. Lol. The only thing I’ve seen OG do is roam, and roaming rarely caps towers, keeps, and SMC.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

You overestimate the amount of times that we see OG tags. Yes, we do run after you, and you can be certain that there’ll be a few of us that break off the zerg to chase down one of you, but you also have to realize that we have multiple times your population as well, so in the end you’re not doing much.

And to be honest. I don’t typically see this from Dragonbrand, I typically only see it from FA. Furthermore, I’d like to point out that while you may be helping (you overestimate your contribution, but yes you do contribute) in the field, you are hurting your server by forum warrior’ing and provoking the wrath of the FA zerg.

Have you noticed that you’ve been focused down much more often by us than Dragonbrand has? Even though dragonbrand was outmanned and you weren’t?

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

You’re pretty arrogant.

OG is and always well be a “small” (by small I mean less than 25 active players, we are by no means built to fight t3 and higher zergs with our numbers but we have adapted) roaming guild. OG did not come from a zerg tier. We came from a tier where it wasnt 5v30. We are some of the subset of players who want to go back to lower tiers to get away from this zerg fest. Believe it or not, in lower tiers our groups get more accomplished when it isnt always 5v30.

Being in a zerg ball of players doesnt always mean your getting more done. If anything I see zergs wipe and its an enormous setback, more so than organizing a 5man group together again. While we may not capture SM on the daily we make sure we hold at least 15 points in supply camps while we are on the BL. Thats contributing to the team is it not? A consist 15tick the whole time we are there. Even if we never own any of the castles around the supply camps, mag zergs get an easy supply run when needed.

“Disregard OG, acquire property.” – Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy

That’s one big, sexy…. score update.

kash.9213:

crystalpink.2487:

Kyrime.6958:

I’m pretty sure you all spend too much time arguing and not enough time putting golems on supply depots.

lol

Don’t tell me that Mag has turned to the Great Lord Alpha & Omega Siege Golem now instead of the Great Lord Flame Ram xD

Those are guard golems for the ram lord, kind of like the dog statues on Ghost Busters.

Hahahaha, great reference sir.

Seize the moment
(score from last night)

Zoel.9154:

Mike.7320:

Teamkiller.4315:

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

you really AREN’T doing much. Lol. The only thing I’ve seen OG do is roam, and roaming rarely caps towers, keeps, and SMC.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

You overestimate the amount of times that we see OG tags. Yes, we do run after you, and you can be certain that there’ll be a few of us that break off the zerg to chase down one of you, but you also have to realize that we have multiple times your population as well, so in the end you’re not doing much.

And to be honest. I don’t typically see this from Dragonbrand, I typically only see it from FA. Furthermore, I’d like to point out that while you may be helping (you overestimate your contribution, but yes you do contribute) in the field, you are hurting your server by forum warrior’ing and provoking the wrath of the FA zerg.

Have you noticed that you’ve been focused down much more often by us than Dragonbrand has? Even though dragonbrand was outmanned and you weren’t?

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

You’re pretty arrogant.

OG is and always well be a “small” (by small I mean less than 25 active players, we are by no means built to fight t3 and higher zergs with our numbers but we have adapted) roaming guild. OG did not come from a zerg tier. We came from a tier where it wasnt 5v30. We are some of the subset of players who want to go back to lower tiers to get away from this zerg fest. Believe it or not, in lower tiers our groups get more accomplished when it isnt always 5v30.

Being in a zerg ball of players doesnt always mean your getting more done. If anything I see zergs wipe and its an enormous setback, more so than organizing a 5man group together again. While we may not capture SM on the daily we make sure we hold at least 15 points in supply camps while we are on the BL. Thats contributing to the team is it not? A consist 15tick the whole time we are there. Even if we never own any of the castles around the supply camps, mag zergs get an easy supply run when needed.

“Disregard OG, acquire property.” – Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy

We do have a fun time picking off the slower members of RET zerg Untill you guys realize just how many we are killing, do a 180 and eat us.

GuardianOMS.8067:

That’s one big, sexy…. score update.

Wow, did FA give up or something?

kash.9213:

crystalpink.2487:

Kyrime.6958:

I’m pretty sure you all spend too much time arguing and not enough time putting golems on supply depots.

lol

Don’t tell me that Mag has turned to the Great Lord Alpha & Omega Siege Golem now instead of the Great Lord Flame Ram xD

Those are guard golems for the ram lord, kind of like the dog statues on Ghost Busters.

That perfectly makes sense now lol

Magiofdeath.2745:

Waking.6052:

Farout.8207:

I would be happy if FA went to tier 2 but I am afraid we are stuck with them for a while. But even if they move up and TC moved down to join us it will be pretty much the same deal. Same goes for you guys, if you move down to tier 4 you will dominate and the match will get stale. Both DB and Mag are in a pretty crappy spot. Overpowered servers above us and underpowered below.

Do what we did. Join forces and create Maguumabrand.

Or Draguuma.

Or Dramabrand

Diashame.6328:

Magiofdeath.2745:

Waking.6052:

Farout.8207:

I would be happy if FA went to tier 2 but I am afraid we are stuck with them for a while. But even if they move up and TC moved down to join us it will be pretty much the same deal. Same goes for you guys, if you move down to tier 4 you will dominate and the match will get stale. Both DB and Mag are in a pretty crappy spot. Overpowered servers above us and underpowered below.

Do what we did. Join forces and create Maguumabrand.

Or Draguuma.

Or Dramabrand

I like this. Can we do this?

Mike.7320:

Zoel.9154:

Mike.7320:

Teamkiller.4315:

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

you really AREN’T doing much. Lol. The only thing I’ve seen OG do is roam, and roaming rarely caps towers, keeps, and SMC.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

You overestimate the amount of times that we see OG tags. Yes, we do run after you, and you can be certain that there’ll be a few of us that break off the zerg to chase down one of you, but you also have to realize that we have multiple times your population as well, so in the end you’re not doing much.

And to be honest. I don’t typically see this from Dragonbrand, I typically only see it from FA. Furthermore, I’d like to point out that while you may be helping (you overestimate your contribution, but yes you do contribute) in the field, you are hurting your server by forum warrior’ing and provoking the wrath of the FA zerg.

Have you noticed that you’ve been focused down much more often by us than Dragonbrand has? Even though dragonbrand was outmanned and you weren’t?

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

You’re pretty arrogant.

OG is and always well be a “small” (by small I mean less than 25 active players, we are by no means built to fight t3 and higher zergs with our numbers but we have adapted) roaming guild. OG did not come from a zerg tier. We came from a tier where it wasnt 5v30. We are some of the subset of players who want to go back to lower tiers to get away from this zerg fest. Believe it or not, in lower tiers our groups get more accomplished when it isnt always 5v30.

Being in a zerg ball of players doesnt always mean your getting more done. If anything I see zergs wipe and its an enormous setback, more so than organizing a 5man group together again. While we may not capture SM on the daily we make sure we hold at least 15 points in supply camps while we are on the BL. Thats contributing to the team is it not? A consist 15tick the whole time we are there. Even if we never own any of the castles around the supply camps, mag zergs get an easy supply run when needed.

“Disregard OG, acquire property.” – Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy

We do have a fun time picking off the slower members of RET zerg Untill you guys realize just how many we are killing, do a 180 and eat us.

Well that is what you’re supposed to be doing as a roaming group so more power to you.

Roamers do generally contribute; the point contribution is minimal next to the scouting information they provide to the battlefield at large and killing stragglers en route to reconnect with a larger force.

The fact is, you do need a significantly sized group in order to take keeps and smc, or to defend keeps and smc. That’s regardless of whether or not it’s one organized guild or an entire server sharing a teamspeak. However, many people disregard the fact that having the entire server on one circle means you have nobody anywhere else.

FA has been kind of bad about this lately, which is mostly a by-product of our not having been able to form such a zerg previous to six weeks or so ago, whether in terms of communication, willingness of people in the zone to participate, or organized guilds.

Mag is in a great position to exploit this weakness, but so far I haven’t seen it. OG should be a key player in that strategy. For better or worse, I doubt many guilds have nearly as many people who would be interested in that sort of role.

If my server wouldn’t flog me to death I would probably attempt to convince OG transfer through subsidization just so we could have dedicated roamers; most people who would be good at that would rather spvp.

Zoel.9154:

Mike.7320:

Zoel.9154:

Mike.7320:

Teamkiller.4315:

dreztina.4820:

On a side note, every time I talk about how you other servers are so uncompetitive with equal numbers, people always try to bring up the score and how we aren’t doing anything for it and blah blah blah.

you really AREN’T doing much. Lol. The only thing I’ve seen OG do is roam, and roaming rarely caps towers, keeps, and SMC.

In reality, OG has become infamous to the point where our mere presence on a battlefield contributes to our server hugely. Even a single OG tag is enough to make an entire zerg stop what it is doing and chase in the opposite direction. Just by playing the way we play, we can make ourselves cancel out 5-6x our numbers easily. Also, we always kill more than we lose, even if it’s not as many as we’d like, meaning we’re taking more people out of the fight than our own number.

You overestimate the amount of times that we see OG tags. Yes, we do run after you, and you can be certain that there’ll be a few of us that break off the zerg to chase down one of you, but you also have to realize that we have multiple times your population as well, so in the end you’re not doing much.

And to be honest. I don’t typically see this from Dragonbrand, I typically only see it from FA. Furthermore, I’d like to point out that while you may be helping (you overestimate your contribution, but yes you do contribute) in the field, you are hurting your server by forum warrior’ing and provoking the wrath of the FA zerg.

Have you noticed that you’ve been focused down much more often by us than Dragonbrand has? Even though dragonbrand was outmanned and you weren’t?

So while none of us care about the score (except that we would greatly prefer to lose and drop to t4), you better believe we do more to help our server than a lot of you who actually do care.

You’re pretty arrogant.

OG is and always well be a “small” (by small I mean less than 25 active players, we are by no means built to fight t3 and higher zergs with our numbers but we have adapted) roaming guild. OG did not come from a zerg tier. We came from a tier where it wasnt 5v30. We are some of the subset of players who want to go back to lower tiers to get away from this zerg fest. Believe it or not, in lower tiers our groups get more accomplished when it isnt always 5v30.

Being in a zerg ball of players doesnt always mean your getting more done. If anything I see zergs wipe and its an enormous setback, more so than organizing a 5man group together again. While we may not capture SM on the daily we make sure we hold at least 15 points in supply camps while we are on the BL. Thats contributing to the team is it not? A consist 15tick the whole time we are there. Even if we never own any of the castles around the supply camps, mag zergs get an easy supply run when needed.

“Disregard OG, acquire property.” – Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy

We do have a fun time picking off the slower members of RET zerg Untill you guys realize just how many we are killing, do a 180 and eat us.

Well that is what you’re supposed to be doing as a roaming group so more power to you.

Roamers do generally contribute; the point contribution is minimal next to the scouting information they provide to the battlefield at large and killing stragglers en route to reconnect with a larger force.

The fact is, you do need a significantly sized group in order to take keeps and smc, or to defend keeps and smc. That’s regardless of whether or not it’s one organized guild or an entire server sharing a teamspeak. However, many people disregard the fact that having the entire server on one circle means you have nobody anywhere else.

FA has been kind of bad about this lately, which is mostly a by-product of our not having been able to form such a zerg previous to six weeks or so ago, whether in terms of communication, willingness of people in the zone to participate, or organized guilds.

Mag is in a great position to exploit this weakness, but so far I haven’t seen it. OG should be a key player in that strategy. For better or worse, I doubt many guilds have nearly as many people who would be interested in that sort of role.

If my server wouldn’t flog me to death I would probably attempt to convince OG transfer through subsidization just so we could have dedicated roamers; most people who would be good at that would rather spvp.

On top of scouting information, stopping forces from regrouping. OG is also at the call of the commander on said BL. If we are needed we go there, we are the tide changers.

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

Does anyone on DB ever think of this or is it just a pipedream of FA’s?

I saw OG build and use a siege weapon once. Also they escorted a yak once.

I’ve noticed that. When I see the [OG] tag in a larger ball I tend to say to myself “Oh, so this must be everyone they have.” But that implies a higher level of intent than is usually there; I think you do have one or two members who just tend to roll with a ball from the getgo every so often.

Also once I start trying to make calculations like I’m some sort of jedi master I end up with 3 trebuchets in an open field so

Haldunius.7864:

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

Does anyone on DB ever think of this or is it just a pipedream of FA’s?

Frankly,
I like our server name better than yours,
So you’d all have to come here.

EnRohbi.2187:

Haldunius.7864:

etrigan.4213:

nalenb.1425:

ower.9143:

I’d take DB over Magoobers any day. They at least understand how WvW works and don’t cry on the forums about how every fight isn’t 5v5 and call anything over 7 ppl a zergball.

Except we stink at forum warfare. I bet 90% of the thread posts are Mag and FA.

Step your game up noobs. Get your NNK dudes on here, there’s bunches of them lol.

In all honesty FA + DB = Greatest WvW server evar. The coverage would be almost perfect.

Shame we can’t make a marriage happen.

Does anyone on DB ever think of this or is it just a pipedream of FA’s?

Frankly,
I like our server name better than yours,
So you’d all have to come here.

I would imagine Isle of Fort Jaspenbrand would strike fear in the heart of T1 and T2. We could play strip jenga to see who transfers to who’s server.