Guild Wars 2

The people from sorrows furnace are trying to break a world record by getting the most wvw points in a week.

What is the total amount of points we need to beat in order to obtain this?

I think the record is around 670k.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/5#NA

615 373

This is after the nerf to SM castle bringing it to +35 instead of +50.

Can someone help me with the maths.

Maximum score you can get atm is +695
How many hours in 1 week = 168 hours
How many 15 minute intervals in 168 hours.
= 168 * 4 = 672

so 672 * 695 should give us the maxium score we can obtain in a week?
Maximum score = 467020

But then if people are getting over 600k my maths isn’t adding up :L
can someone explain to me what I am doing wrong and figure out whats the maximum number of points we can obtain in a week?

You get points for killing dolyaks and sentries and maybe other things which makes up the difference

Bunzy.8674:

Can someone help me with the maths.

Maximum score you can get atm is +695
How many hours in 1 week = 168 hours
How many 15 minute intervals in 168 hours.
= 168 * 4 = 672

so 672 * 695 should give us the maxium score we can obtain in a week?
Maximum score = 467020

But then if people are getting over 600k my maths isn’t adding up :L
can someone explain to me what I am doing wrong and figure out whats the maximum number of points we can obtain in a week?

Yeah that’s odd. You could also say that between all three servers in any match-up they will own every point on the map for every 15 minute interval, so the sum of their three scores at the end of the week should be the maximum score possible.

well, congratulations in advance for beating the world record in PvE. but this is a WvW/PvP forum so…

You also get 3 points for a dolyak completing its route.

I knew a post like this was gonna come sooner or later for sorrows, all i can say is really? against 2 dead servers? I hope people don’t think its because you’re actually putting up a fight to hold these points.

I just remember how much they cried against us yaks, when they couldn’t hold more than 5% of the map at their peak time…now when they are in the same position they want to reach this “world record”…

What’s really bad about this post is that you’re putting a really bad thing in the current WvW design in positive words…world record…lol…

lol.

That is all i have to say.

just note, we won’t make it easy for SF.

Trying to get a WR against 2 servers who have lost most of its WvW Players (And alot of PvE Players, and on top of that, people are still transferring away to winning servers) is just beyond stupid and insulting.

The amount of arrogance from your server ./Flip hair

Although to defend SF, it must really just be the guy who is.

‘Oh hey, I win WvW by escorting Dolyaks all over the place.’

Good Job SF, too bad score has nothing to do with skill.

how low is ET and HoD goign to fall before actually trying? i mean they can’t be tier 8 servers.

wads.5730:

how low is ET and HoD goign to fall before actually trying? i mean they can’t be tier 8 servers.

Kaineng is 3x bigger than HoD and ET combined.

Don’t make such wrongfully boastful statements and then go around acting like our whole server is behind this. The only reason we’re doing as good in this matchup is because we shouldn’t be in it in the first place. During all of our more even matches, the fair-weather players (which sadly is a vast majority on our server) bail WvW at the first sign of difficulty. Ironically, we get the most players to join WvW when we need them the least such as when we completely out-man the other 2 servers combined. How can you take such pride in a hollow victory?

Leave me and the rest of our server out of this, because we don’t want to be the target of statements such as:

lol.

That is all i have to say.

just note, we won’t make it easy for SF.

Trying to get a WR against 2 servers who have lost most of its WvW Players (And alot of PvE Players, and on top of that, people are still transferring away to winning servers) is just beyond stupid and insulting.

The amount of arrogance from your server ./Flip hair

lol really OP? That is pretty pathetic. I won’t say any more because others have already posted why your “world record” attempt is ridiculous.

My comment is not directed towards the whole Sorrows Furnace server, just you only.

yeah this sucks. i’m on SF and i enjoyed last week a lot more. at least vs NSP we had someone to fight all the time.

mcarswell.3768:

yeah this sucks. i’m on SF and i enjoyed last week a lot more. at least vs NSP we had someone to fight all the time.

^^100% this. I’d rather have a tight match-up and/or having our bums handed to us with some decent fights than a week like this. Then at least there would be something to do WvW-wise other than spawn camping (blech).

Weeks like this are great for getting WvW map and jumping puzzle completions and that’s just about it. They’re totally rotten for WvW action.

And let’s not get too big for our britches and get boastful. A score like this means nothing if we aren’t fighting against other players for it.

wads.5730:

how low is ET and HoD goign to fall before actually trying? i mean they can’t be tier 8 servers.

It has nothing to do with trying, the servers were almost completely abandoned. And to quote myself from about a month ago: “I wonder who will come in 2nd behind Kaineng, ET or HOD”. Now it’s Ferguson’s Crossing, but you get the point lol. I’m still very curious to see who will get 2nd in tier 8.

Meh. I barely even recognize Sorrow’s Furnace anymore with all the free transfers that have gone on.

Even if the match up wasn’t against servers suffering more than us from free transfers killing them (handing us a boring as hell match), I’ve lost a lot of patriotism to care all that much about the server…. again, due to all these free server transfers that kill any sense of community.

The match is not only boring but an embarrassment for all involved (including whoever is in charge of free transfers). Gloating over it just makes you look like more of an idiot.

Kore.9523:

I knew a post like this was gonna come sooner or later for sorrows, all i can say is really? against 2 dead servers? I hope people don’t think its because you’re actually putting up a fight to hold these points.

While I agree what it happening is nothing special, I cannot help but laugh when someone from Darkhaven is commenting on undefended points… super ironic.

Please try to ignore the fact that we are winning against a couple of empty servers and focus more in pulling more people to Wv3, right now there is a lot of people playing in the maps, but later, when we get outnumbered and start losing, we need people with experience in the field Take this oportunity to teach new guys the ropes of wvw so they don’t get overwhelmed next time we fight with a server from our level. And the guilds already in our servers, be patient, don’t be like those guilds that only show when we are winning and claim that is because of them that we are winning and transfer when we lose a match.

I am on HoD, and have been since Beta. I feel bad for SF players who are long time players. Likely the same thing will happen to you as happened to HoD, unless servers are locked soon. You will climb high, then the “groups” that carried you there well bail and you will be left to free fall.

As to how far we will fall before “Trying”? Me and my guild regularly work on WvW, but it is dishearteing and boring to get on and have a 25 man group that can’t take more than a camp or two because the invaders own 98% and can stand around looking for crossed swords, port to their fully upgraded everything and stomp you before 25 people can take down an upgraded tower door with 3 rams.

There have been time I get on in the evening and can’t even take a camp because there are invaders guarding them with siege.

Again, I feel bad for “true” Sorrows Furnace people, but I hope people with the attitude of the OP get stung by bees.

Unless it’s against competition, it’s a hollow victory in my eyes. But, I guess it is a good tactic to rally people into WvW for your server.

Skar Hand.5037:

I am on HoD, and have been since Beta. I feel bad for SF players who are long time players. Likely the same thing will happen to you as happened to HoD, unless servers are locked soon. You will climb high, then the “groups” that carried you there well bail and you will be left to free fall.

Up until this week, my guild (been on SF since late beta) feared HoD, due to our matchups we had with you guys back in early September before the matchmaking separated our servers (for good we thought). Every time we would be having a hard time in WvW, we would say “well at least we aren’t fighting Denravi”, even when playing Sanctum of Ral immediately after their mass server transfers from Jade Quarry (the previous match was an incredibly even fight, 1st and 3rd place were separated by about 1000 points at the end of the week…. then they had mass transfers and pretty much shut everyone out in the rematch the very next week).

With the free server transfers, sadly it was very obvious things like this would happen… but actually seeing them happen yourself is still fairly disheartening.

Like I’ve said already ITT, I don’t even recognize a lot of my server anymore due to all the transfers… it almost feels my guild and I were the ones that transferred servers.. but nope, we’re some of the few that have been here since Beta.

Oh well, the first month of the game was awesome…

Bill Bellichik of GW2… lol… i like it!

The fact that et and hod are even out there fighting speaks volumes about thier character.

xtorma.1283:

The fact that et and hod are even out there fighting speaks volumes about thier character.

Thanks. I have been saying every week to my guild since early October, “Well we will drop a tier and do better next week”. Had good hopes about this week, but oh well.

We will drop a tier and hopefully do better next week.

Skar Hand.5037:

…and stomp you before 25 people can take down an upgraded tower door with 3 rams.

Train your forces how to fight off guards without throwing up crossed swords…

X up 1-3 people charged and ready to contest nearby waypoints.

Get your full force fully supplied or near the ~100 short-fall point. This just takes patience and determination.

Send 4x ninja team to clear the guards from your objective tower (on map b).

Lightning strike a supply camp on map A with your strike force, finish your supply up (this is also a morale builder and puts blood on your forces teeth), ninja team move to map A and armordillo up in the supply camp. Strike force (fully supplied now) change to map B, HOLD FIRE ATTACK NOTHING —

If guards are not clear or have begun to respawn, X up 4 to clear… FULL force must hold fire or out of combat range.

Drop 4x rams at tower and build the left to right, do not man them or start the attack yet… avoid crossed swords.

You may not have enough supply to build them all… Move to map C, take camp, resupply. Your armordillo is likely dead on map A rally them to map c to re-armordillo.

Return to map B, finish ALL FOUR RAMS, only initiate attack and man the rams when you have finished all four. Tag nearby keep(s) and or the castle.

All in attack, bubble and time warp. Ele’s watch walls; heat them up as needed; otherwise, water and rain. Call for eyes on all sensitive approaches. TRAP the entrance/exit door and X up 2 thieves to standby with caltrops on your flanks.

A tower can be flipped in 3-5 minutes end-to-end. Armordillo up if you want (unwise) or map shift and do it all over again with a new target.

You’re unlikely to accomplish this without coordinated voice and chat management. You will probably need an alpha (tagged) commander and 2-3 support commanders (untagged) facilitating comms.