I am a player on the Black Gate server. I am curious if there is any truth to the alliance of Jade Quarry and Sanctum of Rall. If there is and anet ppl are on Jade Quarry then what kind of game are we playing where the ppl involved in game creation are cheating it. Maybe i am wrong and none of this is going on but it would be nice to have a formal explanation.
No truth.
SoR won’t alliance with a server to take another down. That cuts out of our fun fights.
We just kill everyone.
SoR Has always declined alliances, and refused backing off 1 server to help another.
So no. There is no alliance between SoR and any other server. We fight to have fun. That’s all.
Any mentions of an alliance are just people wanting to stir drama.
Conspiracy Theory’s ACTIVATE!
Commander Silvannas “Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.” Sun Tzu
I am a player on the Black Gate server. I am curious if there is any truth to the alliance of Jade Quarry and Sanctum of Rall. If there is and anet ppl are on Jade Quarry then what kind of game are we playing where the ppl involved in game creation are cheating it. Maybe i am wrong and none of this is going on but it would be nice to have a formal explanation.
I’ll clear up your false perception.
An alliance assumes some sort of gathering and official deceleration whereby both parties agree to go to war against some other party.
This cannot be farther from the truth.
Instead JQ is fighting everybody. SoR have a coverage issue, and thus cannot hope to win the week (despite rolling JQ and BG in their fully manned hours). Thus, SoR are what’s known as King Makers. SoR players and guilds (on a per player/guild basis) can decide who they hate more on any given week, pick out which server/guilds have been talking themselves up the most, and then ignore one server while focusing down the other to show them who’s really in charge.
No, there’s no alliance between JQ and SoR. But SoR will destroy you if and when it feels like.
~Fin.
(P.S, If you’re feeling outgunned I’m sure you can hire out some mercenaries from an enemy server. With enough gold you can direct anyone anywhere.)
I am a player on the Black Gate server. I am curious if there is any truth to the alliance of Jade Quarry and Sanctum of Rall. If there is and anet ppl are on Jade Quarry then what kind of game are we playing where the ppl involved in game creation are cheating it. Maybe i am wrong and none of this is going on but it would be nice to have a formal explanation.
I’ll clear up your false perception.
An alliance assumes some sort of gathering and official deceleration whereby both parties agree to go to war against some other party.
This cannot be farther from the truth.
Instead JQ is fighting everybody. SoR have a coverage issue, and thus cannot hope to win the week (despite rolling JQ and BG in their fully manned hours). Thus, SoR are what’s known as King Makers. SoR players and guilds (on a per player/guild basis) can decide who they hate more on any given week, pick out which server/guilds have been talking themselves up the most, and then ignore one server while focusing down the other to show them who’s really in charge.
No, there’s no alliance between JQ and SoR. But SoR will destroy you if and when it feels like.
~Fin.
(P.S, If you’re feeling outgunned I’m sure you can hire out some mercenaries from an enemy server. With enough gold you can direct anyone anywhere.)
Out of curiosity, does SoR have fully manned hours during the weekend? Because they aren’t rolling anybody. I find the claim of their NA superiority to be completely overstated.
To the OP…no, there isn’t an alliance, lol.
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I am a player on the Black Gate server. I am curious if there is any truth to the alliance of Jade Quarry and Sanctum of Rall. If there is and anet ppl are on Jade Quarry then what kind of game are we playing where the ppl involved in game creation are cheating it. Maybe i am wrong and none of this is going on but it would be nice to have a formal explanation.
I’ll clear up your false perception.
An alliance assumes some sort of gathering and official deceleration whereby both parties agree to go to war against some other party.
This cannot be farther from the truth.
Instead JQ is fighting everybody. SoR have a coverage issue, and thus cannot hope to win the week (despite rolling JQ and BG in their fully manned hours). Thus, SoR are what’s known as King Makers. SoR players and guilds (on a per player/guild basis) can decide who they hate more on any given week, pick out which server/guilds have been talking themselves up the most, and then ignore one server while focusing down the other to show them who’s really in charge.
No, there’s no alliance between JQ and SoR. But SoR will destroy you if and when it feels like.
~Fin.
(P.S, If you’re feeling outgunned I’m sure you can hire out some mercenaries from an enemy server. With enough gold you can direct anyone anywhere.)
Out of curiosity, does SoR have fully manned hours during the weekend? Because they aren’t rolling anybody. I find the claim of their NA superiority to be completely overstated.
To the OP…no, there isn’t an alliance, lol.
No they don’t. I live in NZ. I went to bed at 1:30am last night. SoR had pulled to the lead by thousands of points over the course of the day, but by the time I went to bed JQ had caught up, and we were outmanned everywhere but EB. BG were still trailing behind by a few thousand.
Think what you will of their NA superiority. Doesn’t bother me one bit.
I am a player on the Black Gate server. I am curious if there is any truth to the alliance of Jade Quarry and Sanctum of Rall. If there is and anet ppl are on Jade Quarry then what kind of game are we playing where the ppl involved in game creation are cheating it. Maybe i am wrong and none of this is going on but it would be nice to have a formal explanation.
I’ll clear up your false perception.
An alliance assumes some sort of gathering and official deceleration whereby both parties agree to go to war against some other party.
This cannot be farther from the truth.
Instead JQ is fighting everybody. SoR have a coverage issue, and thus cannot hope to win the week (despite rolling JQ and BG in their fully manned hours). Thus, SoR are what’s known as King Makers. SoR players and guilds (on a per player/guild basis) can decide who they hate more on any given week, pick out which server/guilds have been talking themselves up the most, and then ignore one server while focusing down the other to show them who’s really in charge.
No, there’s no alliance between JQ and SoR. But SoR will destroy you if and when it feels like.
~Fin.
(P.S, If you’re feeling outgunned I’m sure you can hire out some mercenaries from an enemy server. With enough gold you can direct anyone anywhere.)
Out of curiosity, does SoR have fully manned hours during the weekend? Because they aren’t rolling anybody. I find the claim of their NA superiority to be completely overstated.
To the OP…no, there isn’t an alliance, lol.
No they don’t. I live in NZ. I went to bed at 1:30am last night. SoR had pulled to the lead by thousands of points over the course of the day, but by the time I went to bed JQ had caught up, and we were outmanned everywhere but EB. BG were still trailing behind by a few thousand.
Think what you will of their NA superiority. Doesn’t bother me one bit.
The highest ppt SoR ever got was 310. During most of the beginning of reset the score was in the 230’s for each server. These are the fully manned times were everyone has a queue on every map. In essence, All three tier one servers performed around equally (You did pull ahead 4-5 hours after reset)
I think you overexaggerate your rolling of other servers. Here’s a helpful link:
“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.”
I am a player on the Black Gate server. I am curious if there is any truth to the alliance of Jade Quarry and Sanctum of Rall. If there is and anet ppl are on Jade Quarry then what kind of game are we playing where the ppl involved in game creation are cheating it. Maybe i am wrong and none of this is going on but it would be nice to have a formal explanation.
I’ll clear up your false perception.
An alliance assumes some sort of gathering and official deceleration whereby both parties agree to go to war against some other party.
This cannot be farther from the truth.
Instead JQ is fighting everybody. SoR have a coverage issue, and thus cannot hope to win the week (despite rolling JQ and BG in their fully manned hours). Thus, SoR are what’s known as King Makers. SoR players and guilds (on a per player/guild basis) can decide who they hate more on any given week, pick out which server/guilds have been talking themselves up the most, and then ignore one server while focusing down the other to show them who’s really in charge.
No, there’s no alliance between JQ and SoR. But SoR will destroy you if and when it feels like.
~Fin.
(P.S, If you’re feeling outgunned I’m sure you can hire out some mercenaries from an enemy server. With enough gold you can direct anyone anywhere.)
Out of curiosity, does SoR have fully manned hours during the weekend? Because they aren’t rolling anybody. I find the claim of their NA superiority to be completely overstated.
To the OP…no, there isn’t an alliance, lol.
No they don’t. I live in NZ. I went to bed at 1:30am last night. SoR had pulled to the lead by thousands of points over the course of the day, but by the time I went to bed JQ had caught up, and we were outmanned everywhere but EB. BG were still trailing behind by a few thousand.
Think what you will of their NA superiority. Doesn’t bother me one bit.
The highest ppt SoR ever got was 310. During most of the beginning of reset the score was in the 230’s for each server. These are the fully manned times were everyone has a queue on every map. In essence, All three tier one servers performed around equally (You did pull ahead 4-5 hours after reset)
I think you overexaggerate your rolling of other servers. Here’s a helpful link:
“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.”
There’s no need to attack me personally. You’re welcome to think what you like, of course, but summing me up via a link is as good as a claim being made without justification.
That said if there’s an error here it might be in your definition of what “rolling” is. You post reveals you amount that to being achieving an absolute score somewhere over 310. For how long you don’t say. Meanwhile I simply look at the graph you linked and see that it backs up what I saw and was saying all along. SoR, presumably the weaker server over the course of an entire week (to which previous scores attest) pulled ahead over the other two servers who end a week on a score vastly higher than SoR. How do you make sense of that data? Is it reasonable to conclude that, no, SoR is not fully manned all hours of the weekend, or not? What made all the difference in those first hours? Was it numbers, or is there in fact a skill/coordination factor?
Focus on me and label me things all you want. It won’t answer any of these questions. Only serve as a rhetorical distraction.
Yes, I was suggesting you had an air of illusory superiority. I was just typing what I am observing.
And like I already said, the first few hours of reset are where all maps are queued and more or less all four servers have even numbers everywhere. Population starts tapering off later.
So why was the score relatively EVEN for the first few hours of reset where the numbers are also EVEN, why did SoR pull ahead LATER?
You don’t think it’s more likely SoR started to outnumber their opponents a few hours after reset? Instead you come up with an explanation that contradicts the first four to five hours of scores during the reset that also sounds very arrogant.
Man, I’ve started to notice that people on outmanned servers like to presume they’re more skilled than their opponents when in all likelihood they’re even and just suffering from illusory superiority.
Yes, I was suggesting you had an air of illusory superiority. I was just typing what I am observing.
And like I already said, the first few hours of reset are where all maps are queued and more or less all four servers have even numbers everywhere. Population starts tapering off later.
So why was the score relatively EVEN for the first few hours of reset where the numbers are also EVEN, why did SoR pull ahead LATER?
You don’t think it’s more likely SoR started to outnumber their opponents a few hours after reset? Instead you come up with an explanation that contradicts the first four to five hours of scores during the reset that also sounds very arrogant.
Man, I’ve started to notice that people on outmanned servers like to presume they’re more skilled than their opponents when in all likelihood they’re even and just suffering from illusory superiority.
Edit: grammar
That’s one explanation, and I’d give it more credence if the first five hours were comparable to the five after that. But those ten hours arent static, nor unrelated to one another. Events take place in the first two hours, leading into the next two, which set up the six after. Taking, holding, and upgrading towers and keeps are what separate one point tick from another. SoR, in this instance, achieved the greater number of points in what is generally considered the single most balanced time period for WvW for the entire week.
I’m just typing what I’m observing. If you want to write that off by suggesting I have an air of illusory superiority, that’s your call. I’m more interested in the data that can be presented, and whether or not the interpretations are reasonable. You think the scores were relatively even. I see that while they were “relatively even”, objectively they were different. You think it’s arrogant to reflect on that? You’ll have to justify that statement. If anything that says something about you, not me.
Troll Alert. From Blackgate, and this is your first Post on the forums? LOL, try harder next time. This thread should be closed just on the grounds of a weak attempt to troll and stir up nonsense conspiracy theories.
In regards to the final 24 hours before reset, yes there was a coordinated by SoR to remove BG from the lead. Make no mistake there is no alliance with JQ, they were the defacto beneficiary. If we could cause you both to lose we would.
Many SoR natives remember our first weeks playing against BG when a certain guild and its members repeatedly exploited their way into our keeps and towers with fly hacks and clipping hacks. That guild still resides on BG and as long as they do reside on BG I believe that there will be a concentrated effort to make sure your server never takes 1st place.
In regards to the final 24 hours before reset, yes there was a coordinated by SoR to remove BG from the lead. Make no mistake there is no alliance with JQ, they were the defacto beneficiary. If we could cause you both to lose we would.
Many SoR natives remember our first weeks playing against BG when a certain guild and its members repeatedly exploited their way into our keeps and towers with fly hacks and clipping hacks. That guild still resides on BG and as long as they do reside on BG I believe that there will be a concentrated effort to make sure your server never takes 1st place.
It’s fine, everyone knew this happened so it really doesn’t matter Kain will take your spot and we can have a real T1 where everyone fights for first soon enough
Yes, I was suggesting you had an air of illusory superiority. I was just typing what I am observing.
And like I already said, the first few hours of reset are where all maps are queued and more or less all four servers have even numbers everywhere. Population starts tapering off later.
So why was the score relatively EVEN for the first few hours of reset where the numbers are also EVEN, why did SoR pull ahead LATER?
You don’t think it’s more likely SoR started to outnumber their opponents a few hours after reset? Instead you come up with an explanation that contradicts the first four to five hours of scores during the reset that also sounds very arrogant.
Man, I’ve started to notice that people on outmanned servers like to presume they’re more skilled than their opponents when in all likelihood they’re even and just suffering from illusory superiority.
Edit: grammar
I’m not even on SoR but your theory has nothing to do with SoR’s score evolution. Try again
Wanted to pop in and give a big thanks to JQ for all the siege and 75k Gold they paid us here on SoR to 2v1 BG with them. Rest assured every person on SoR is getting their legendary weapons thanks to that gold.
On a side note, when is that super secret meeting taking place to divide up the borderlands? We cant just be running into each other on the field JQ.
Keep Calm and Conquer
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Oh my, I am in a bad spot. I do not like BG nor JQ. Who shall I ally with? Perhaps if the Kraitt would stop attacking me, I could negotiate an alliance with them. Imagine all the CC from a Kraitt army.
hehehehehehe
Oh my, I am in a bad spot. I do not like BG nor JQ. Who shall I ally with? Perhaps if the Kraitt would stop attacking me, I could negotiate an alliance with them. Imagine all the CC from a Kraitt army.
hehehehehehe
“Bay keep is under attack!”
“Who?”
“Krait… At least 50+”
SoR hire TC and FA, in order to keep Kaineng on T2
Since Kaineng is stuck at T2, SoR convince JQ to 2v1 BG.
BG will keep getting stomped by combinated forced of “Quarry of Rall” (The name of the newly formed alliance), however will not drop since Kaineng can’t make enough rating to reach T1.
The pressure will make SoS Bandwagon to leave and BG will implode, dropping back to T2 (Kaineng move up).
SoR will convince JQ that Kaineng is a threat just as BG, and will ask to continue with “Quarry of Rall”
At same time, SoR will convince Kaineng that together they can dethrone JQ.
While JQ and Kaineng battle against each other, SoR backstab JQ and became the new #1.
It’s so obvious i don’t know how you guys didn’t saw it…
