Guild Wars 2

With the news of free transfers coming to an end on Janurary 28th, I wish to make an urgent plea to the WvW focused guilds of Europe.

1. If you are sitting in a low tier server, hoping everyday that 1000s of WvW focused players will join you. It seems very unlikely.

2. If your guild is suffering for members leaving, low representation, and difficulty to communicate, there will no longer be a large influx of players for you to recruit because there will be no sudden influx of players who bandwagon to your server, you can only grow organically from now on, much to slow for the rate players are leaving. Especially if you are low tier

3. If your members are burning out, suffering from long late night hours to play just to stay ahead, the dreams of a low cost American savior coming will soon come to an end. No one is coming to save you.

Currently, Sea of Sorrows has the best North American and Oceanic coverage, we have won 8 out of 9 Tier 1 weeks, the longest winning Tier 1 Champion in North America WvW. But it is NOT ENOUGH. Currently we are holding under 50 ppt in all empty boarderlands during European prime times. Often, Oceanic members need to stay up until 5am or Americans need to skip school and work to play in the afternoons to hold it.

We realize this is not sustainable.
We realize that Europeans are facing the same problem.
We need Europeans to watch our backs!

Why don’t I transfer to a low tier server and work my way up?
The next transfer you make is going to be the last free transfer ever. Do you want to transfer to an unproven server, where you risk the WvW alliance falling apart due to consistent under performance? Or, will you for the sake of your guild members come to the server who has proven to be number 1 time and again through hard work, mature community and capable strategies?

SOS has worked their way up. We understand that you may think working your way up from beaten dog to top dog is a very romantic notion. But trust us, T1 survival is no laughing matter, 24/7 coverage is only the beginning. If you cannot guarantee that, you should not think about other issues. We have seen time and again servers who enter tier 1, fail, and completely fall apart because of the shear hopelessness they feel.

It’s always full
Please contact myself or this forum via in-game mail or private message and I will help to administer a very success transfer for you. We will provide the man power and administrative tools to help your transfer succeed. SOS has experience doing this, we have transferred over 1000 WvW players within 2 days to our seemingly “full” server before.

I don’t want to be labelled as a Bandwagoner
1. No server is a pure virgin anymore, even I, a native of SOS since Aug 25 2013, is often labelled as a “bandwagoner”. I take it with a smile. A winning smile.

2. Bandwagoner is just an insult, smack talk in a WvW environment. It is very similar to “your server is cheating” “your server is hacking” “your server is 2v1ing” “you server has spies” “you server is full of BANDWAGONERS” – What type of people have to resort to name calling? Losers who can’t win on the battlefield. Do you care about them?

3. Another name for people who change server to better WvW communities are: Responsible Guild Leaders who look out for the sustainable development of their guild and members. Do you want your members to keep suffering as losing martyrs? Or ride together into victory?

Lag is an issue
It is not, it has been proven time and again. No one has ever complained about lag. If you are worried about the issue of lag, please contact us and we will organize a way for you to test it first hand.

I can’t recruit anyone in NA
Very wrong. SOS actually has a reasonable amount of players during European times, but they have no leaders. As long as they have no leaders, we fear that eventually they will just up and leave. Be that leader, show them the way. You can probably double your member pool just by popping into our Euro Time Zone right now and picking up the stragglers.

Europeans, the time is now. Please, think about the future of your guild members. Do they want to play 10 hours a day only to lose because of lack of coverage? Don’t just just any server, your members deserve to be part of the best. Think of your children, your wife, your girlfriend, your career. Do they deserve to suffer because your server has no coverage and you need to pull extra hours every night to play? Now is the time the make the change.

Contact us now, the time is almost at an end.

My question is, what is the hardest part about transferring to the USA? Please write down your concerns and we will try our best to address them!

If you are interested in learning more about the people, guilds and community of Sea of Sorrows, please visit: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78596-sea-of-sorrows-an-organized-community-for-wvw/

Jedahs.2713:

1. No server is a pure virgin anymore, even I, a native of SOS since Aug 25 2013,

I KNEW IT!

He’s from the future.

Argh Jedahs beat me into it! I was gonna post something similar.. I am not suprised though, seeing as he is from the future! :O

This brings up some pretty good points… except the effects of time travel on this world line.

Well if its not hard to transfer to na. It shouldn’t be hard to transfer to eu either. Just saying

salluks.6017:

Well if its not hard to transfer to na. It shouldn’t be hard to transfer to eu either. Just saying

Yes. It isn’t hard to transfer anywhere. What is hard is guaranteeing the quality of server you are transfering to. After your next free transfer, you will not have a 2nd chance again! So do your research!

European guild masters will need to decide. Do you sit there and hope that within the next 2 weeks a substantial amount of NA and Oceanic and Asians trickle in to you, or will you come to a sever that is only lacking Europeans and make a difference immediately.

There is no right answer, but some answers lead to better results than others

You already hold teh PPT lead for 90% of the day and win t1 easily. Why do you need Euros? What “difference” will Euros make to SoS besides even LESS competition in tier 1? I’m honestly curious here!

pot.6805:

You already hold teh PPT lead for 90% of the day and win t1 easily. Why do you need Euros? What “difference” will Euros make to SoS besides even LESS competition in tier 1?

Why would a server be less entitled for recruitment than other servers just because we are at the lead at the moment? Isn’t a dynamic influx of soldiers part of a strategy oin war AND in securing your land?

I don’t think you’re going to be able to trick Europeans into playing 24/7 for you. They need to sleep at some point.

pot.6805:

You didn’t actually answer the question.

Why do you need Euros? What “difference” will Euros make to SoS besides even LESS competition in tier 1?

Hello Pots

I shall answer your question.

It is a misconception that SOS holds top PPT 90% of the time. There is a constant 5-7 hour window during EURO prime time that SOS consistently hold under 100 ppt because of ZERO European guild coverage. Our winning margins are not crazy 100k+ wins. They are always very marginal, 10k to 30k. Once we won by only 3k points!

The reason why we are winning is because our North Americans and Oceanics and Asians are playing 10+ hours a day to keep up with the win, we want to win and we will put in extra effort. But 15 weeks of brute force overplaying will eventually lead to burn out.

Sea of Sorrows leaders are all very forward thinking people, we have a responsibility towards our guildmates and friends in our server, to make it better, make it more enjoyable, and we need to ensure the game/work/life balance of all of our people.

I am sure many competitive WvW guilds in Europe face the same problem, but is there a high quality well rounded server to transfer to other than Sea of Sorrows? Maybe there is, but Sea of Sorrows, the obvious solution is right infront of you right now.

Okay I consider my question answered, good luck.

Kerithlan.1659:

I don’t think you’re going to be able to trick Europeans into playing 24/7 for you. They need to sleep at some point.

On another server, maybe that’s the situation top euro transfer guilds, but SOS has great coverage all around.

At the moment, I often ask oceanic and Asian guildies to stop playing during USA prime times cause we should reserve our energy for our own prime times. Its so organized I am excited just talking about it!!!!

Nothing sucks more than playing 10-12 WvW shifts and hoping that when you wake up that the PPT is the same (or better) than when you logged off the previous night. Anybody striving for the gold medal in any particular week “knows that feel bro”. As Jedahs said, as a leader/commander you can only do that (and to a lesser extent make your regular guild members do that) so much before the path of ‘hands in the air jsut don’t care’ is traveled down. That path leads to burnout not just of the WvW aspect of the game, but the entire game itself, especially if WvW is the only thing you care about.

A number of the NA commanders on SoS lost a long-time friend from the Dragonbrand days to WvW burnout this week. He didn’t just quit WvW, he quit the game. And regardless of how little anyone might think it affects them, it affects them greatly. It starts with one commander, then the guys who take over for him, then the members. Sooner or later you lose an entire guild and sometimes an entire server could be drug into the abyss because 1-2 of the guilds on the grand cog of WvW sustainability broke off thanks to the game simply being not fun anymore. Be it for the reasons of getting pummeled week after week despite immense effort into helping your server on the battlefield or for the reasons of not having anyone to play with anymore, when players quit the game suffers as a whole.

So why risk remaining susceptible to that level of stress of possible self implosion when SoS has the coverage and the community to let you enjoy WvW instead of it being a 2nd job. Even moreso considering in just 11 days, making a decision to prevent this could cost not just you, but each of your guild members $20.

This is exactly why Europe don’t transfer to na. All they care about is points points points.

Unfortunately, other thread which lists all of SOS details was closed.

If you are interested in our community, please visit:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-Organized-Community-for-WvW/first#post1225286

I think the moderator said you can only have one recruitment thread open at a time or something.

Most europian guilds prefer fighting then just going for points so I doubt you will be getting allot of transfers.

Krosan.2890:

Most europian guilds prefer fighting then just going for points so I doubt you will be getting allot of transfers.

Then the Europeans should come to enjoy the most hardcore Tier 1 fighting environment.

Sure there is European Tier 1, but why huddle all in one place? Sea of Sorrows needs you!

Good luck with your recruitment SoS ! I hope you will find a couple of EU guilds willing to transfer. That said, for the sake of the competition in Tier1, I hope you will know when its time to stop recruiting as well

Smokee.1754:

Good luck with your recruitment SoS ! I hope you will find a couple of EU guilds willing to transfer. That said, for the sake of the competition in Tier1, I hope you will know when its time to stop recruiting as well

Oh Smokee~ I’m doing this for your sake! Don’t you want to fight real enemies during EU Prime Time instead of just PvDooring against us?

Join SOS Europeans, and you get to fight Smokee, the Golden Boy of BG! Their guild is really strong, honorable, yet they don’t wtf zerg you. So if you want a reasonable challenge, join SOS today!

Also, Smokee and HB’s success in high level playing is proof that there is NO LAG for Europeans in NA Servers

Krosan.2890:

Most europian guilds prefer fighting then just going for points so I doubt you will be getting allot of transfers.

well JQ and BG have a euro presence so if its fighting they want they’ll have it. But they will also have the support of NA and Oceanic guilds so we have 24/hr coverage.

At the moment we lose out when the Oceanics go to sleep and JQ/BG fight it out without much interference from us until the NA guilds log on in the morning.

1) With free transfers coming to an end, now is the right time to be recruiting for everyone.

2) I’ll give the University of Alabama a call and let them know that they shouldn’t be recruiting after winning a national championship….except that’s how you win a national championship. Not sure what all the “lolz ur #1, y u recruiting” stuff is about.

Jedahs.2713:

Smokee.1754:

Good luck with your recruitment SoS ! I hope you will find a couple of EU guilds willing to transfer. That said, for the sake of the competition in Tier1, I hope you will know when its time to stop recruiting as well

Oh Smokee~ I’m doing this for your sake! Don’t you want to fight real enemies during EU Prime Time instead of just PvDooring against us?

Join SOS Europeans, and you get to fight Smokee, the Golden Boy of BG! Their guild is really strong, honorable, yet they don’t wtf zerg you. So if you want a reasonable challenge, join SOS today!

Also, Smokee and HB’s success in high level playing is proof that there is NO LAG for Europeans in NA Servers

so u want all Europe to transfer to fight 1 or 2 guilds..that definitely makes a lot of sense.

I dont understand the reasons why europeans should join american servers for wvsw.
We have 27 own servers, can play during our primetime( when the best fights are taking place), almost no server has any queues and we dont have any lagg issues.

If you guys join SOS I promise to take off my clothes for ya wink wink

Isn’t that incentive enough? No? Pft >_< I fail at this recruitment thing.

@Jedahs: Maybe it will be better if this particular recruitment page encompasses all timezones instead of inclusively europeans since the other thread got closed for ‘being too similar’? Can the title be modified?

SoS does not need anymore people. You have already won every week but one you have been in t1. It’s time for guilds to consider transferring to the other t1 servers to make t1 more competitive and fun for all.

The other T1 servers are showing real class coming in to our recruitment thread and saying unproductive things.

Meanwhile SOS leaves your recruitment threads alone.

Maybe this is the reason we keep winning. We play properly

Minoru.1237:

SoS does not need anymore people. You have already won every week but one you have been in t1. It’s time for guilds to consider transferring to the other t1 servers to make t1 more competitive and fun for all.

On the contrary.
SoS need europeans so that the aussies and NA players dont have to pull overtime to keep winning.

It will be no different except the motherload will be shared between the respective timezones.

Suggesting that guilds should look elsewhere for the sake of increasing competitiveness in t1 has nothing to do with playing properly. I’m sure we all use a keyboard and a mouse to move about and play the game, which is proper and I hope for your sake ergonomically correct. All jokes aside, I think you you mean proper in the sense of some higher moral or ethical standard, and if that’s the case consider this: surely promoting competitiveness in t1 is a greater good than maintaining an SOS blowout since an even spread of players across servers helps far more people than SOS increasing their blowouts ever would. It’s a utilitarian approach to T1, and in that sense is highly proper.

NOTE: Please do not believe the false rumors about queue times on SoS. They’re almost non-existent. As for EU guilds experiencing a challenge, our current T1 opponents have enough EU coverage themselves to provide you with TONS of action on a daily basis.

SOS is a very strong, friendly community that works very hard together to do their best in WvW. We have strong and consistent communication across our server, love to discuss our own original strategies alongside the brilliant strategies of other players, and most importantly, we love to have fun in WvW.

With paid transfers on the horizon, we’d really like to so seem EURO guilds (or any other, really) come on board. We’ll welcome you with open arms and would absolutely work with you in getting you transferred in, feeling comfortable, and right to work on our battlefields.

We only have semi-long queues on reset and some parts of the following week. Otherwise, you’ll have hours upon hours of action-packed playtime to look forward to.
Please message me if you have any questions.

Minoru.1237:

Suggesting that guilds should look elsewhere for the sake of increasing competitiveness in t1 has nothing to do with playing properly. I’m sure we all use a keyboard and a mouse to move about and play the game, which is proper and I hope for your sake ergonomically correct. If you mean proper in the sense of some higher moral standard, then consider this: surely promoting competitiveness in t1 is a greater good than maintaining an SOS blowout since it helps far more people than SOS maintaining or increasing their blowouts ever would. It’s a utilitarian approach to T1.

So convoluted yet so off the mark. To play properly in wvw is simply to play to win. Recruitment is merely another strategy. Rationally speaking, joining the top server is ideal since it will yield the best reward (as per the upcoming patch). There’s nothing metaphysical about it. I can’t say anything about your intention in this regard then, DISINFORMATION is a strategy too afterall. Which one is more agreeable is entirely up to the subject.

Also, we’ll add a new motivation to the WvW domain that goes beyond the overall weekly score to give more short term reasons to be winning in WvW as well.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/colin-johanson-on-guild-wars-2-in-the-months-ahead/

We have just welcomed 100 new Asian time zone players to SOS today! The move was successfully completed with 2 hours.

We are just waiting for Europeans now because we have ZERO European guilds on SOS, Please join us asap!

Leo Paul.1659:

Minoru.1237:

Suggesting that guilds should look elsewhere for the sake of increasing competitiveness in t1 has nothing to do with playing properly. I’m sure we all use a keyboard and a mouse to move about and play the game, which is proper and I hope for your sake ergonomically correct. If you mean proper in the sense of some higher moral standard, then consider this: surely promoting competitiveness in t1 is a greater good than maintaining an SOS blowout since it helps far more people than SOS maintaining or increasing their blowouts ever would. It’s a utilitarian approach to T1.

So convoluted yet so off the mark. To play properly in wvw is simply to play to win. Recruitment is merely another strategy. Rationally speaking, joining the top server is ideal since it will yield the best reward (as per the upcoming patch). There’s nothing metaphysical about it. I can’t say anything about your intention in this regard then, DISINFORMATION is a strategy too afterall. Which one is more agreeable is entirely up to the subject.

Also, we’ll add a new motivation to the WvW domain that goes beyond the overall weekly score to give more short term reasons to be winning in WvW as well.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/colin-johanson-on-guild-wars-2-in-the-months-ahead/

Recruitment is the first step to building any army.

SoS needs an army to check those other T1 servers before they wreck themselves. They made SBI and Blackgate melt under their own hubris. If you don’t transfer to them you may be next. Don’t you want to be part of an unstoppable force? Join now!!!!!!!!!!

Viewte=1226043;Jedahs.2713:]The other T1 servers are showing real class coming in to our recruitment thread and saying unproductive things.

Meanwhile SOS leaves your recruitment threads alone.

Maybe this is the reason we keep winning. We play properly[/quote]

You calling out other people and servers about not showing class? That is rich,I love the hypocrisy in this statement. Some of the SoS posters have enough “negative” karma from their old troll and trakittenalking posts to buy enough obsidian shards to make at least 10 legendaries. Don’t believe me? Clink on his forum name and select “See all messages by ____” to see how truly toxic and two-faced one is. You can’t delete or hide that.

P.S.A. TO TRANSFERS: When deciding a server, research those servers mentioned in those recruitment threads and don’t be afraid/lazy to observe prominment posters too (“See all messages by ____”)! It is a wall of text, I know, but remember, it is the server you will be stuck on. Once transfers become paid, you obviously don’t want to waste money to transfer off a toxic server that you regretted!

EDIT #1: Unfortunately, you can’t view previous parts that were forcefully deleted by moderators. That’s where all the gold was.

Jedahs.2713:

We have just welcomed 100 new Asian time zone players to SOS today! The move was successfully completed with 2 hours.

We are just waiting for Europeans now because we have ZERO European guilds on SOS, Please join us asap!

wow – nice work! bring the pain.

Jedahs.2713:

pot.6805:

You didn’t actually answer the question.

Why do you need Euros? What “difference” will Euros make to SoS besides even LESS competition in tier 1?

Hello Pots

I shall answer your question.

It is a misconception that SOS holds top PPT 90% of the time. There is a constant 5-7 hour window during EURO prime time that SOS consistently hold under 100 ppt because of ZERO European guild coverage. Our winning margins are not crazy 100k+ wins. They are always very marginal, 10k to 30k. Once we won by only 3k points!

The reason why we are winning is because our North Americans and Oceanics and Asians are playing 10+ hours a day to keep up with the win, we want to win and we will put in extra effort. But 15 weeks of brute force overplaying will eventually lead to burn out.

SoS outman Blackgate every minute of the day, by a factor of at least 2 anytime outside of NA Primetime. Its why SBI went down, because they just had enough of being zerged out of existence every day.

Yet, we manage to win many battles despite being heavily outnumbed. We’ll never win the war because we don’t have the numbers but its very satisfying winning the majority of our battles against a massively overpopulated server.

SoS, you need to think of the game as a whole and in terms of the big picture. Stop just thinking about yourselves in the short term because in the end if you keep over-recruiting you’ll have noone left to fight and the great concept of WvW dies, all because you’re being selfish.

Speaking as a SoR member…get off other peoples recruitment threads, you don’t dictate other peoples lives, you aren’t god and can tell them what to do, all you are doing is making you’re own server look even worse and stopping people from coming there to help you.

I like the SoS people and what they have done to bring that server to the top is amazing. Stop trolling them. Like someone earlier said, no winning team in the world just wins and never recruits, I have never seen the Yankees or Patriots win and never once trade players around, have you? thats how life works.

Leave it be, let them recruit, and recruit for yourselves if you have such an issue with it instead of trolling a great thread made by them.

I don’t post to hurt SoS, I post to save the WvW game.

I love fighting SoS, they have some great guilds (especially Merc themselves who we have awesome battles with) but when it gets to the point in the night when every bit of work we’ve done over 5-6 hours is undone in 30 minutes because SoS has 5 times the amount of people we have in WvW it game-breaking.

Last night I commanded the Oceanics through BG borderland, we took our entire map back (after owning nothing) and then left for EB, within 30 minutes we’d lost almost all of BG. We took about half of EB and just missed out on taking Stonemist (that kitten capture bar was at 90% when we got wiped lol). By the time we’d taken 4 keeps in EB we’d lost our entire BL again and there was nothing we could do about it.

SoS had at least four 40-50 man organised zergs in the various maps (plus a ton of pugs), we pretty much had 1 40-man force and various pugs for all 4 maps.

Nothing wrong with speaking up when there is an imbalance, I’m just disappointed that Anet are just making this issue worse by closing server transfers and announcing rewards for WvW all at the same time, did they even stop to think of the common reaction?

I don’t understand, why not just recruit people yourselves? Do something about it proactively, not reactively. Stop dictating what other people should or should not do because of your idealization. No one is dismissing the fact that SOS does have good coverage, and aims to further improve it, what’s so wrong with that? Heck, SOS’s overall advantage against other t1 servers aren’t that massive anyway. JQ has already proven that by defeating us.

There must be better alternative strategies than badmouthing SOS.

Trikki.5803:

SoS outman Blackgate every minute of the day, by a factor of at least 2 anytime outside of NA Primetime. Its why SBI went down, because they just had enough of being zerged out of existence every day.

Wow you just need to get out of this thread and come back when you have a clue what you’re talking about. Actually don’t come back at all, this thread is none of your business.

Just to clarify and put your lies to bed, from 7am Central until around 3pm Central, SoS had zero coverage. None. Nada. Zilch. I know this because i play these hours daily.
JQ have the likes of FOO and that other asian guild, Blackgate have Nine Dragons, Thai, and then a couple hours later the HB zerg and this deys alliance of europe or whatever its called along with JQ’s euro’s.

Go do the math, thats hundreds of people against a handful of daytime NA stragglers on SoS. We are just lucky the decided to fight each other a lot and not totally wipe us off every map.
THAT’S why SoS are recruiting SEA/EU coverage. We can not risk going +50ppt for 8 hours a day if we want to remain competitive, and its to the point where burnout is approaching for the australians playing until the early hours of the morning to cover the first few hours of this deadzone.

I see you are an oceanic player. Yes we have superior oceanic numbers. But we are not recruiting oceanic players, and im sorry you keep getting owned by our lovely oceanics.

Again, goodbye Blackgate troll. Go see to your own servers business.

To any Euro’s considering our server, its a fantastic place to play. The friendship and teamwork throughout the server is second to none, and im sure you will find a really great home on Sea of Sorrows aswell as a large amount of enemies to keep your badges rolling in (and ranks going up when its implemented)

Trikki.5803:

I don’t post to hurt SoS, I post to save the WvW game.

I love fighting SoS, they have some great guilds (especially Merc themselves who we have awesome battles with) but when it gets to the point in the night when every bit of work we’ve done over 5-6 hours is undone in 30 minutes because SoS has 5 times the amount of people we have in WvW it game-breaking.

Last night I commanded the Oceanics through BG borderland, we took our entire map back (after owning nothing) and then left for EB, within 30 minutes we’d lost almost all of BG. We took about half of EB and just missed out on taking Stonemist (that kitten capture bar was at 90% when we got wiped lol). By the time we’d taken 4 keeps in EB we’d lost our entire BL again and there was nothing we could do about it.

SoS had at least four 40-50 man organised zergs in the various maps (plus a ton of pugs), we pretty much had 1 40-man force and various pugs for all 4 maps.

Nothing wrong with speaking up when there is an imbalance, I’m just disappointed that Anet are just making this issue worse by closing server transfers and announcing rewards for WvW all at the same time, did they even stop to think of the common reaction?

This is great. I admire your altruistic efforts to prevent the WvW Implosion… lol?

But seriously now. I’m a thief user, I don’t like stealth killing. I like to roam and burst down people before they know what hit them. I like to fight good guardians. I like rematches. I like to pit myself with the best player I can find yak slapping my borderland…

But most of all I like to win. Don’t you?

Facts:

If we had perfect coverage we wouldn’t be recruiting.

If we had long queues to get in WvW, recruiting would be like shooting ourselves in the foot.

If we outnumbered them so badly as they claim, we wouldn’t win by 30K, we would win by 150K like HoD used to.

If we were as vicious forum users as they claim, we would be in their recruitment thread, not them in ours.

Numbers alone can’t win a match, dedicated and coordinated forces do. For that we need great commanders and great players across all time-zones. We already have some of the best commanders in the game. Now we only need YOU!

Alphur – Thief

Do something for your server if you need more people in wvw. Coming into people thread and posting negative comment here will bring your server any good?

and welcome ND to SOS! You guys are awesome in BG bl yesterday!
I’m sure you gonna enjoy your stay here

Using Titan as some sort of benchmark. Bandwagon much.

“legendary king of WvW” good work they did in defending a title they created while WvW was in infant stages.

Edit: Jed why you delete your post?

We are very aware of what happened to HoD. We are not, as a server trying to create a 24/7 powerhouse that dominates everything and anything all the time. We are specifically recruiting for EU where we have no presence at all. We are also not after a whole server to xfer to us, a handful of wvw guilds will set us straight, as long as there is leadership and people. As for the other server I would completely agree. JQ should be looking for more NA and oceanic guilds and we still need a strong 3rd server, whether that be blackgate, SoR, TC, SBI, Kaineng etc, doesn’t matter. What does matter is who the responsibility lies in recruiting those people and by the accusations made in this thread you put the onus on SoS.
Are we to simply shut down everything until all 3 servers are perfectly equal on coverage? Or send people to your servers? what are you trying to achieve by derailing this post?
Even #1 need to keep recruiting to fill gaps and alleviate weaknesses. I don’t even want any more NA or Oceanics to join us, we’ve got that kitten covered, but we still have virtually 0 EU presence and this thread is aimed directly at that.

And as my servermates have so eloquently put, we are looking for EU guilds…not entire servers. As I have read through this thread, it occurred to me that SoS is a great community. Our responses to the trolling speaks for itself. We remain on point even during the fire fight. Great job guys.

As for the trolls, I am baffled at your methods here. I do hope you find joy in what you do. Best of luck to you.

I think everyone should seriously consider this move and contemplate the positive aspects. You can’t be a winner if you’re not number one and there is only one number one!

Don’t you want to move somewhere and be number one by default? You won’t even have to DO anything.

We wuv you euros! Bring your sexy kitten accents here!

ISteveI.9732:

Do something for your server if you need more people in wvw. Coming into people thread and posting negative comment here will bring your server any good?

and welcome ND to SOS! You guys are awesome in BG bl yesterday!
I’m sure you gonna enjoy your stay here

I love how people keep badmouthing SOS’ recruitment efforts helping them gain a strong korean guild in the process. Keep it up guys, We might still get an EU guild yet.