Guild Wars 2

Viz zerg 2.0, not much fun to fight against.. :/

Thimill.9162:

Darkman.1257:

(Mark Soibo so we can hunt him down! kitten)

AHAHAHAH !
I’m gonna move with a golden hylek potion so you will find me even in a zerg ! :p

I’M READY MY FRIEND !

Not unless you outnumber then 4:1 you’re not.

CorliCorso.6254:

Not unless you outnumber then 4:1 you’re not.

Drq is polish, he will be probably drunk and bawl “Oh my god ! My eyes ! I see 4 Soibo !” on TS.
So 4:1, yeah it’s good !

Yoke.4671:

VS has been a plague since last august, Its the biggest flaw/off-put of tier1 and the reason so many guilds/players have left Tier1 for greener pastures. VS can say what they want about Anet and the way WvW is, I’m not going to say they are wrong, this aint about right or wrong. This is about one server pretty much ruining wvw for everyone else regardless if they are right/have the right to do it.

Id feel a little bit ashamed if I was a VS citizen right now to be honest. Its a shame Anet cant create a new tier just for VS, split it up into 3 thirds and they can fight each other in blobs. And let the rest of the servers have a somewhat fair fight most weeks. Its the way of life in alot of things, one person always has to spoil the fun, kitten shame.

A guy who overtake two people stopped for drink during a marathon should be ashamed ?

Meglobob.8620:

Viz dominating is not Troma’s fault its down to basic math Viz has 3 times the number of people on its server than either sfr or Des. Even if sfr & Des had a alliance, Viz would still outnumber them…

Do you have an actual proof for that, or are you just guessing ? (i’m curious, no sarcasm intended)

Thimill.9162:

CorliCorso.6254:

Not unless you outnumber then 4:1 you’re not.

Drq is polish, he will be probably drunk and bawl “Oh my god ! My eyes ! I see 4 Soibo !” on TS.
So 4:1, yeah it’s good !

To be fair, it does appear that you’re all mesmers. That would explain retreating at every opportunity for what appears to be an even-numbered fight I’ve seen for weeks.

GuildWars2 WvW, a feature so awesomely designed, you actually have to drop the ladder to enjoy yourself.

Bondurant.1540:

GuildWars2 WvW, a feature so awesomely designed, you actually have to drop the ladder to enjoy yourself.

Well, in SWTOR PvP is pretty fun 1-49. After reaching lvl 50, you delete a character and start again.

Preacher.9018:

Bondurant.1540:

GuildWars2 WvW, a feature so awesomely designed, you actually have to drop the ladder to enjoy yourself.

Well, in SWTOR PvP is pretty fun 1-49. After reaching lvl 50, you delete a character and start again.

Well, since no one cares enough playing SWTOR anymore, I guess it’s not a good sign for GW2’s WvW then

Yoke.4671:

…Id feel a little bit ashamed if I was a VS citizen right now to be honest. Its a shame Anet cant create a new tier just for VS, split it up into 3 thirds and they can fight each other in blobs. And let the rest of the servers have a somewhat fair fight most weeks…

Actually SFR and Deso blobs are quite often much bigger than ours.
We generally have several raids on each map at prime time and need to synchronize from time to time to gather our raids to wipe your blobs. Or we succeed to wipe your blobs with mono guild raids, yummy.

Xispeo.1706:

Yoke.4671:

…Id feel a little bit ashamed if I was a VS citizen right now to be honest. Its a shame Anet cant create a new tier just for VS, split it up into 3 thirds and they can fight each other in blobs. And let the rest of the servers have a somewhat fair fight most weeks…

Actually SFR and Deso blobs are quite often much bigger than ours.
We generally have several raids on each map at prime time and need to synchronize from time to time to gather our raids to wipe your blobs. Or we succeed to wipe your blobs with mono guild raids, yummy.

Biggest lie/sarcasm of the thread.

Sarevok.2638:

…Biggest lie/sarcasm of the thread.

You don’t even realize what’s going on ?
Am not surprised you don’t play the game anymore guys if you can’t even accept what’s going on in T1 atm.
I like challenge, I don’t mind getting wiped and fighting stronger opponents.
I don’t need to despite my opponents and to deny reality.

Fun fights in EB tonight, bout the only time VS are at a disadvantage with no supply and no siege :P Gimme more loots bags

VoTF, leaves T1 because of blobbing.. Blobs in T7. GG.

DyslexicDwarf.6249:

VoTF, leaves T1 because of blobbing.. Blobs in T7. GG.

It looks like you know more about our guild than we actually do…horry sheet.

DyslexicDwarf.6249:

VoTF, leaves T1 because of blobbing.. Blobs in T7. GG.

Replying on a forum after seeing a very selective screen-shot and then pulling conclusions from that which are wrong. GG.

Yoke.4671:

VS has been a plague since last august, Its the biggest flaw/off-put of tier1 and the reason so many guilds/players have left Tier1 for greener pastures. VS can say what they want about Anet and the way WvW is, I’m not going to say they are wrong, this aint about right or wrong. This is about one server pretty much ruining wvw for everyone else regardless if they are right/have the right to do it.

Id feel a little bit ashamed if I was a VS citizen right now to be honest. Its a shame Anet cant create a new tier just for VS, split it up into 3 thirds and they can fight each other in blobs. And let the rest of the servers have a somewhat fair fight most weeks. Its the way of life in alot of things, one person always has to spoil the fun, kitten shame.

Why are they a plaque, because they adapted into what is the most efficient mono-guild around? They play to win the game and they are winning it, there is no denying that. What they do to achieve this goal maybe frowned upon but it’s perfectly legal.

If the best guilds had the patience and didn’t want to go it alone they could wipe the floor with VS. But they get bored, wiping puggies over and over is boring apparently.

As for me, i don’t care who i’m fighting or what i’m fighting, there’s a sense of accomplishment when winning against the odds. People on here should spend more time out in the game fighting than kittening and trolling on the forums. Maybe then, you will accomplish something ^^

Aneu.1748:

DyslexicDwarf.6249:

VoTF, leaves T1 because of blobbing.. Blobs in T7. GG.

Replying on a forum after seeing a very selective screen-shot and then pulling conclusions from that which are wrong. GG.

I just watched you do it, haha.

GG.

DyslexicDwarf.6249:

Aneu.1748:

DyslexicDwarf.6249:

VoTF, leaves T1 because of blobbing.. Blobs in T7. GG.

Replying on a forum after seeing a very selective screen-shot and then pulling conclusions from that which are wrong. GG.

I just watched you do it, haha.

GG.

So you may want to post this in the relevant thread however if you had watched us then you would have noticed that RIOT came from the south east tower, we came from the south east supply camp, RIOT ran north to cap the northern supply camp but garrison was under attack so went there, we stayed at north hills and got the gate down with just VoTF, we went to the north inner at hills and once again took the gate down vs heavily sieged opposition and we got into the lords room and wiped almost everything before riot returned in order to get wXP.

I appreciate that you are trying to show some form of tom-foolery going on here but suffice to say you are reaching quite a bit.

Good Job every Deso on home bl tonight, AFTL assigned a second commander to lead friendlies whilst the other lead the guild raid it worked out well everyone followed our lead and by the tone on map chat most people enjoyed themselves.

Thank you all for a great night even SFR and Viz

(Im sure videos of the evening will follow at some point)

VS is back to serious business now.

PvD time..ready..set..go!

Xispeo.1706:

Actually SFR and Deso blobs are quite often much bigger than ours.

No. No no no no no no no. That sentence couldn’t be more wrong if you’d rolled your forehead on the keyboard instead.

SFR and Deso blob, but never anything larger than what we see from Vizunah, and nobody can match multiple blobs on each map & 70-man blobs at 3am.

This matchup (and thread) has become groundhog day. I’m not sure but I think we have to all become friends and learn the piano to advance.

CorliCorso.6254:

Xispeo.1706:

Actually SFR and Deso blobs are quite often much bigger than ours.

No. No no no no no no no. That sentence couldn’t be more wrong if you’d rolled your forehead on the keyboard instead.

SFR and Deso blob, but never anything larger than what we see from Vizunah, and nobody can match multiple blobs on each map & 70-man blobs at 3am.

Yep…

that’s one channel, scroll down!! :P

One channel and all the guild tags are different.. Given that I have seen more than just one person from each guild on a map, it is either a ’commanders’ list for easy communication, or there are just others from Vizunah playing and not on TS.

Either way it proves nothing, and we all know you have more than 16 people online in WvW at the moment.

TatsuKan.5412:

Yep…

With all due respect, that screenshot proves nothing at all. We cannot even see what’s going on in the other channels of that very same TS server, much less what could be going on on other servers, how many people not logged on TS are there etc.

Honestly, at this point denying that Vizunah has an utterly massive off peak population advantage is beyond silly.

68 connected, with at least 8 afk…

Yep, we have 4 blob of blob of 70 players right now…

MagnusLL.8473:

With all due respect, that screenshot proves nothing at all. We cannot even see what’s going on in the other channels of that very same TS server, much less what could be going on on other servers, how many people not logged on TS are there etc.

Honestly, at this point denying that Vizunah has an utterly massive off peak population advantage is beyond silly.

Honestly, at this point thinking that Vizunah has multiple blobs and “70+ people” in them during off peak is beyond delusional.

Alriiight…

I recently got into WvWvW and never knew there was such drama around our servers o.0

What’s going on?

when the kitten are we going to drop down a tier? i havent logged on to gw2 for couple of weeks now. am i the only one who thinks tier 1 is boring?

Charmide.4891:

Honestly, at this point thinking that Vizunah has multiple blobs and “70+ people” in them during off peak is beyond delusional.

My personal estimate is that Vizunah right now never drops below 300 people in WvW at any time of the day.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

when the kitten are we going to drop down a tier? i havent logged on to gw2 for couple of weeks now. am i the only one who thinks tier 1 is boring?

We will never drop because the other servers can play the same “let’s not score too many points” game too and they are doing it. Time to either man up and accept that playing with the big boys implies sacrifices like queues (which are non existent on Deso at the moment anyway), big zergs, skill lag, and getting wiped off the map by a force 5X to 10X yours, or do what nearly everybody else is doing, give the finger to any hope of ever building a serious, stable server-wide WvW community, pretend that WvW actually stands for “GvG” and start the perpetual server hopping in the eternal search for the mythical land of milk and honey.

MagnusLL.8473:

Charmide.4891:

Honestly, at this point thinking that Vizunah has multiple blobs and “70+ people” in them during off peak is beyond delusional.

My personal estimate is that Vizunah right now never drops below 300 people in WvW at any time of the day.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

when the kitten are we going to drop down a tier? i havent logged on to gw2 for couple of weeks now. am i the only one who thinks tier 1 is boring?

We will never drop because the other servers can play the same “let’s not score too many points” game too and they are doing it. Time to either man up and accept that playing with the big boys implies sacrifices like queues (which are non existent on Deso at the moment anyway), big zergs, skill lag, and getting wiped off the map by a force 5X to 10X yours, or do what nearly everybody else is doing, give the finger to any hope of ever building a serious, stable server-wide WvW community, pretend that WvW actually stands for “GvG” and start the perpetual server hopping in the eternal search for the mythical land of milk and honey.

Nobody in gw2 want’s to play against visunah because ironicly they preffer to play wvw,where with visunah is an endless vortex of sucking the fun out of it at any costs since acording to them “This is how it’s intended to be played”

People finally realized and said no thx.Now they have their own tier just for themselves wich makes me particulary happy to be honest.

graverr.6473:

Nobody in gw2 want’s to play against visunah because ironicly they preffer to play wvw,where with visunah is an endless vortex of sucking the fun out of it at any costs since acording to them “This is how it’s intended to be played”

Do they, now.

Vizunah DOES play the game the way it’s meant to be played. If the game was supposed to be a 20 vs 20 deathmatch in an open field, you wouldn’t have the following game concepts:

- supply
- towers and keeps
- siege weapons

Those concepts are there though, and they are meant to be used.

Just as an example, Vizunah is the only server I’ve seen which has dolyak escorts over 80% of the time.
Escorting dolyaks is slow, boring and unrewarding, but it’s also utterly critical as without those dolyaks you cannot refill your towers/keeps (much less upgrade them) and without those stockpiles there’s no way of doing things like golem rushes or trebbing enemy strong points.

What Vizunah does is to use its devastating numerical superiority in off peak time to gain loads of points and properly setup the maps in the best possible situation and then use that advantage to carry them through during peak time when the opposition finally matches their numbers. I don’t see how any other server in their lucky position would play differently.

The servers fighting Vizunah have a tendency to go looking for open field fights while ignoring (or at least not caring enough) for the logistical part of the game mode. I know that’s definitely the case for Deso; just as an example, last thursday I could play in the morning due to a day of holidays, stood 5h 30 minutes in EB, and was personally responsible for 90% of the tower upgrades and 80% of the siege weapons deployed during the whole period, despite carrying the commander tag for only 20 minutes.

A proper task distribution by commanders would render Vizunah’s task much more difficult because their zergs, being so pug-heavy, tend to melt whenever faced by 1/2 or more of their own numbers, and that forces them to oversiege positions to have any chance of capping points. But you cannot oversiege if you don’t have supplies. Cutting their supply lines would force them to come out in the open much more often.

So accusing them of hiding in their towers with a zillion siege weapons is only half the truth; the other half is “so why aren’t your forces killing all their dolyaks while escorting yours, then trebbing the crap out of their towers?” At least during prime time, the other servers DO have enough players to employ this tactic, especially given Vizunah’s so often cited need to respond to a 20-man squad with a 60-man zerg. Accusing them of sucking in open field fights and then complaining about the inability of taking their positions is a self-confessed lack of understanding on how to properly employ your forces.

I’m not saying proper tactical play would change the result of the matches; they simply get way too many points in the night/morning/afternoon for anyone to be able to overcome that deficit without a massive boost in coverage; but this is the result of the awful scoring system and you cannot fault players for a game design mistake.

Maybe just make that every server have same amount players in every map. If we have one player enemies should have one player too. That would be fair.

graverr.6473:

MagnusLL.8473:

Charmide.4891:

Honestly, at this point thinking that Vizunah has multiple blobs and “70+ people” in them during off peak is beyond delusional.

My personal estimate is that Vizunah right now never drops below 300 people in WvW at any time of the day.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

when the kitten are we going to drop down a tier? i havent logged on to gw2 for couple of weeks now. am i the only one who thinks tier 1 is boring?

We will never drop because the other servers can play the same “let’s not score too many points” game too and they are doing it. Time to either man up and accept that playing with the big boys implies sacrifices like queues (which are non existent on Deso at the moment anyway), big zergs, skill lag, and getting wiped off the map by a force 5X to 10X yours, or do what nearly everybody else is doing, give the finger to any hope of ever building a serious, stable server-wide WvW community, pretend that WvW actually stands for “GvG” and start the perpetual server hopping in the eternal search for the mythical land of milk and honey.

Nobody in gw2 want’s to play against visunah because ironicly they preffer to play wvw,where with visunah is an endless vortex of sucking the fun out of it at any costs since acording to them “This is how it’s intended to be played”

People finally realized and said no thx.Now they have their own tier just for themselves wich makes me particulary happy to be honest.

This is pretty much how ALOT of people feel right now.

Also in regards to that Teamspeak pic, because everyone uses teamspeak amirite?

Junkpile.7439:

Maybe just make that every server have same amount players in every map. If we have one player enemies should have one player too. That would be fair.

That would make queues impossibly long on the server with the highest off peak population; it would also promote silly tactics like “let have no one log in map X so the enemy cannot log in that map too”.

No, there have already been plenty of excellent suggestions on how to fix it, mostly revolving about a scaling scoring system which gives less points the higher your numerical advantage is, with a fixed minimum cap to avoid the above mentioned “tactic”.

Problem is, Arenanet’s WvW devs are treating their WvW design choices (“WvW is 24/7!”) like religious dogmas instead of approaching the problem in a pragmatic way. I’ve seen the same phenomenon in many other MMOs, once a design team adopts a “pet design tenet” you’d have more chances getting the pope to renounce catholicism than getting that team to reconsider their pet tenet.

MagnusLL.8473:

Vizunah DOES play the game the way it’s meant to be played.

Whilst you can argue that yes they do, there is a serious design flaw in the WvW scoring system and there’s no reason why us the players should succumb to this. In fact, most WvW guilds do not and recent activities prove this.

MagnusLL.8473:

What Vizunah does is to use its devastating numerical superiority in off peak time to gain loads of points and properly setup the maps in the best possible situation and then use that advantage to carry them through during peak time when the opposition finally matches their numbers.

Rolling in a 60 man blob during unsociable hours whilst the rest of the EU are fast asleep or at school and work sure sounds like fun. Must be such a challenge having to fight off the opposition. Odd though that they are not the same force during prime time to demonstrate their superiority.

MagnusLL.8473:

The servers fighting Vizunah have a tendency to go looking for open field fights while ignoring (or at least not caring enough) for the logistical part of the game mode.

That’s because it is fun. What do people get from winning the match-up? What exactly do they achieve and receive for staying up all night or setting their alarm stupidly early in the morning to capture points with very little to no opposition? Except for potentially ruining their own life, they get nothing. They get no challenge, cannot for the life of me see how they would get any enjoyment from it and perhaps the most interesting part is that they get very little respect for it.

MagnusLL.8473:

Accusing them of sucking in open field fights and then complaining about the inability of taking their positions is a self-confessed lack of understanding on how to properly employ your forces.

No it’s not and point ticks during prime time would go as far to proving this. Capturing points during the time when there is the highest level of opposition whilst also looking for fights sounds like a good enough understanding to me.

MagnusLL.8473:

I’m not saying proper tactical play would change the result of the matches; they simply get way too many points in the night/morning/afternoon for anyone to be able to overcome that deficit without a massive boost in coverage; but this is the result of the awful scoring system and you cannot fault players for a game design mistake.

You can fault the players. Things can be done to work around the flawed scoring system, most of Vizunah simply choose not to. Just look at the score already. An entire week’s match-up is effectively over in less than 24 hours. What’s for the rest of the week? It’s tiresome and people are bored of it, but so long as Vizunah are proud I guess it’s okay and things will continue in the same fashion.

Aneu.1748:

Replying on a forum after seeing a very selective screen-shot and then pulling conclusions from that which are wrong. GG.

Isn’t it what it’s all about in this thread ?

Sarevok.2638:

Also in regards to that Teamspeak pic, because everyone uses teamspeak amirite?

Actually, you’d be surprised about that

MagnusLL.8473:

graverr.6473:

Nobody in gw2 want’s to play against visunah because ironicly they preffer to play wvw,where with visunah is an endless vortex of sucking the fun out of it at any costs since acording to them “This is how it’s intended to be played”

Do they, now.

Vizunah DOES play the game the way it’s meant to be played. If the game was supposed to be a 20 vs 20 deathmatch in an open field, you wouldn’t have the following game concepts:

- supply
- towers and keeps
- siege weapons

Those concepts are there though, and they are meant to be used.

Just as an example, Vizunah is the only server I’ve seen which has dolyak escorts over 80% of the time.
Escorting dolyaks is slow, boring and unrewarding, but it’s also utterly critical as without those dolyaks you cannot refill your towers/keeps (much less upgrade them) and without those stockpiles there’s no way of doing things like golem rushes or trebbing enemy strong points.

What Vizunah does is to use its devastating numerical superiority in off peak time to gain loads of points and properly setup the maps in the best possible situation and then use that advantage to carry them through during peak time when the opposition finally matches their numbers. I don’t see how any other server in their lucky position would play differently.

The servers fighting Vizunah have a tendency to go looking for open field fights while ignoring (or at least not caring enough) for the logistical part of the game mode. I know that’s definitely the case for Deso; just as an example, last thursday I could play in the morning due to a day of holidays, stood 5h 30 minutes in EB, and was personally responsible for 90% of the tower upgrades and 80% of the siege weapons deployed during the whole period, despite carrying the commander tag for only 20 minutes.

A proper task distribution by commanders would render Vizunah’s task much more difficult because their zergs, being so pug-heavy, tend to melt whenever faced by 1/2 or more of their own numbers, and that forces them to oversiege positions to have any chance of capping points. But you cannot oversiege if you don’t have supplies. Cutting their supply lines would force them to come out in the open much more often.

So accusing them of hiding in their towers with a zillion siege weapons is only half the truth; the other half is “so why aren’t your forces killing all their dolyaks while escorting yours, then trebbing the crap out of their towers?” At least during prime time, the other servers DO have enough players to employ this tactic, especially given Vizunah’s so often cited need to respond to a 20-man squad with a 60-man zerg. Accusing them of sucking in open field fights and then complaining about the inability of taking their positions is a self-confessed lack of understanding on how to properly employ your forces.

I’m not saying proper tactical play would change the result of the matches; they simply get way too many points in the night/morning/afternoon for anyone to be able to overcome that deficit without a massive boost in coverage; but this is the result of the awful scoring system and you cannot fault players for a game design mistake.

I liked this post, I think it has points that I agree on and it explains the whole reason why W3-design is flawed. I don’t want to say how I think the game is supposed to be played, but at any case, I believe that whichever goals a game may have otherwise, it should encourage fighting (for example, the epic fights W3 was advertised with). The scoring system doesn’t encourage fighting between servers. It encourages to hold keeps/towers and with Vizunah’s superior coverage, they can quite easily upgrade things when no one else is playing.

Effectively, if one is proud of winning the weekly points, then atleast in the case of Vizunah, it’s the proud of avoiding combat. Vizunah doesn’t need to engage in direct combat, since they can log on whenever there’s no opposition and get everything back with their better coverage. W3 scoring should encourage to more direct combat, or atleast it shouldn’t encourage to not having to do direct combat.

So ive heard a rumor that Anet is making the game regionbound.

So that we will lose all the canadians that are on VS.

Dont know if this is true….

Timpsu.9324:

Effectively, if one is proud of winning the weekly points, then atleast in the case of Vizunah, it’s the proud of avoiding combat. Vizunah doesn’t need to engage in direct combat, since they can log on whenever there’s no opposition and get everything back with their better coverage. W3 scoring should encourage to more direct combat, or atleast it shouldn’t encourage to not having to do direct combat.

On the subject of the scoring system sucking to high heaven, you won’t face any opposition from me.

I take some exception to Vizunah not fighting. There is this weird concept that parking your zerg on some hill and trebbing the enemy is “not fighting”. It IS fighting, as a bare minimum you need to be able to defend your position or the artillery gets overrun. And no one forbids the opposing team to go strike somewhere else.

Vizunah fights, they just stack things in their own favor as much as possible. Wouldn’t you do the same if you were in their place?

The fact that the off peak superiority not only gives ridiculous amounts of points but also massively carries over in the form of fully stocked T3 structures is another huge design flaw, on this I agree too. It’s the snowball effect.

But once again, the bucks stop at Arenanet because there have already been plenty of suggestions on how to fix this. Simplest thing would be to modify the outmanned buff to give affected players combat advantages to avoid making it so easy to completely cap maps due to numerical superiority in the first place. A more advanced approach would be to have the system “fight” to reset itself to an equilibrium state by e.g. creating dynamic events in which superbuffed NPCs attack towers/keeps held by a “foreign server” (i.e. one different from the “natural owner” of the structure, like if an enemy server controls one of the 4 towers in EB which are “yours”) with the strength of the event increasing depending on how much the enemy controls / how long they have been controlling it. They even have the technology already in place for it, this is essentially identical to what happens with temple events in Orr. This would severely mitigate the snowballing since after a certain point it would become impossible to hold on to the whole map and the players of the weaker servers would find themselves with a much better starting position once they begin filling their maps again in prime time.

But if Arenanet doesn’t even bother to mention they’re considering changes to this effect… how is this Vizunah’s fault?

DylanLucas.6058:

So ive heard a rumor that Anet is making the game regionbound.

So that we will lose all the canadians that are on VS.

Dont know if this is true….

There is no Canadian on VS…

Lots of you are talking about fighting. But fighting is not the main purpose of WvW. This is not a Team Deathmatch mode or something similar. Your goal is to take towers etc, if you can do it without fighting, then what’s the problem?

MagnusLL.8473:

how is this Vizunah’s fault?

Well they could be less boring.

olleN.2356:

Your goal is to take towers etc, if you can do it without fighting, then what’s the problem?

Yes and main point of sex is make babies.

PvD has more lvl than the rest.

olleN.2356:

DylanLucas.6058:

So ive heard a rumor that Anet is making the game regionbound.

So that we will lose all the canadians that are on VS.

Dont know if this is true….

There is no Canadian on VS…

Lots of you are talking about fighting. But fighting is not the main purpose of WvW. This is not a Team Deathmatch mode or something similar. Your goal is to take towers etc, if you can do it without fighting, then what’s the problem?

Are you all unemployed then?

Oh and one last thing about “it’s all Vizunah’s fault”.

You do realize Arenanet is laughing all the way to the bank thanks also to the money you keep spending to transfer from one server to the next, don’t you? From their perspective, the current system is perfect because it keeps people throwing money at them.

If you want to effect change, vote with your wallet. Preferably after having engaged the brain.

Most of french bandwagoners are on Vizunah. It could even be possible that vizunah has more than half of french population on itself.
If 10% of your total server population play during offpeak, the same 10% of Vizunah isn’t the same, that’s why there are so many of them at any hours of the day and night.

The longer are your queue, better are your chance to be a winner, even if you can’t take part of the battle. That s the way of thinking that lead some French guilds and players to keep joining Vizunah and the queue.