Guild Wars 2

According to the patch notes:

“The drop rarity of Rare and Exotic weapons from certain places in the world (champions, veterans, and players in WvW) has been increased. Rares and Exotics should be much more likely to drop and every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot. This was to ensure that world loot drops were not a significantly worse way of acquiring rare and exotic items than crafting and running dungeons.”

Since the patch I have killed 3 champions in the L74-77 range with my L78 guardian (was L77 when I killed the L74 champ) with the help of a friend of mine, a L80 warrior. With just 2 of us doing it, each of these is a pretty hard and long battle.

From each of those champions, we each received loot of 1 generic blue trash armor/weapon plus a small amount of coin and a vendor trash white item. No crafting mats, no green items, no rares, no exotics.

Is this the intended new improved “loot” drop we’re supposed to be getting? Sure, 6 samples is a very small number, but so far I can’t say that I’m even remotely inclined to want to spend 5-10 minutes to get the same drop I’m likely to get in 10 seconds by killing a generic risen chicken; particularly if there’s a reasonable chance I could require an armor repair that’s going to cost more than the value of the drop.

I don’t expect a rare or exotic item to drop every time I’m involved in killing a champion, but I do think it’s reasonable to expect at least a green or two and/or some useful crafting materials. I also hope that your target drop rate for a rare or better is at least 15% (without being decked out in +100% magic find gear, etc) and that my friend and I were just very unlucky.

I got significantly less loot from a event chain I’ve been doing for the past month or so in Orr on a daily basis. I would usually get at least 1 rare every day. Today, I just got blues and greens and half the overall loot I got before. Meh. I did the Dwayna temple event too, just to see if it was maybe bad luck. Blue trash from the risen priestess, blue trash from the legendary statue, 3 blue trash and 1 coral tentacle from chest…

Out of curiosity… How is your Magic find gear guys?

On my guardian not good…just some food giving me around +20% or something, plus guild 10%. Can’t say for sure what my friend had.

Usual farming spots I hit with guild have reduced loot drop rate also in WvW.

I have a full magic find gear on my guardian, today while breaking Caledon forest map, got a yellow LvL 77 piece of armour out of a normal mob.

But have yet to do a couple of Plinx runs to see if i notice any diference on it.

I have 171 mf from all possible sources and found 2 rares from 4 events at the penitent and shelter waypoints. Prior to the patch, I was getting 2-4 rares per event.

Since this is about Champion loot…back on topic….None of the champs done in Orr tonight have dropped anything. That’s the Broodmother, the champ after the Plinx line and the champ at the end of the arena. Did thyem all twice, got credit and experience, but there was no loot drop (for anyone)

I can 100% verify drop rates have gotten worse not better. Not sure how that happen. I farmed orr for roughly 2 and half 3 hours after patch hit. No drops from any champions at all. I usually get almost full inventory on drops after one event always after two. I did about 8 events and still didn’t have full bags.
I usually get 2-3 rares at least every event. I got one rare from the whole 2-3 hours farming.
Blue and greens replaced white drops is all I noticed in drops getting better. Getting 1/10 or less of the drops pre patch is crazy.
I am in full magic find gear with ominberry 40% magic find buff and most time have guild magic find buff on fort aspenwood.

Yeah, maybe there is another bug, too. -.-

I finished off the night killing the priestess in the Temple of Dwayna…my loot from that WORLD boss (and yes, I got gold level completion for the event) chest was 3 – three – blues. No greens, no yellows, no golds. To say I’m disappointed would be an understatement, particularly because MF doesn’t affect loot from chests. I actually got much better loot from the two veterans that accompanied her…a green chest piece, a green weapon and a useful crafting mat.

I came to report this bug, and found this thread has already been posted.

Nov 15th patch
notes state:
“every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot”

I have now been involved in killing two Champion mobs and dealing them damage for a long time, and both times it dropped zero loot. Only money.

The mobs and events were in Cursed Shore, Isle of Janthir server:

Champion Risen Abomination
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defeat_the_Risen_abomination_wandering_outside_the_walls_of_Caer_Shadowfain

Champion Risen Gladiator
[Group Event] Defeat the Champion of the Gladiators

I farm mobs in Frostgorge sound, killing a few veterans mixed in with the normal mobs.

Pre-patch, the veterans would typically drop a blue item, rarely a grey or nothing.

Post-patch, their drop rate seems to match normal mobs, usually a grey or nothing.

You have to consider that the typical tag rules still apply so when they say guaranteed drop… thats if you do enough damage to deserve a reward still compared to all others. try soloing or getting a party and checking its drop rate.

Kindeller.3072:

You have to consider that the typical tag rules still apply so when they say guaranteed drop… thats if you do enough damage to deserve a reward still compared to all others. try soloing or getting a party and checking its drop rate.

I’d thought of that, but in my case:
- for the “roaming generic” champions I killed there were only 2 or 3 of us doing damage and I was certainly holding my own in terms of contributing (I had aggro a lot so the mobs certainly thought I was worth paying attention to)
- for the Dwayna priestess of course there were quite a few people involved, but for the event I got gold level completion reward in karma/exp/cash so presumably that’s enough to merit a “use decent loot table” drop

Haven’t killed enough since patch to be 100% sure but the rates do seem to actually be worse.
MF seems a bit of a hoax to me, I have a full mf set with considerably over 200% when fully buffed, all exotics, 5 pirate 1 traveler superior runes, sup. lick sigil, lotus fries, guild bonus and banner, and mf booster pretty much max mf i believe. Tracking drops in this gear for 2k kills vs 2k kills with no mf and again 2k kills with only banner and food there is no appreciable difference in fine, masterwork, or rare drops from any source. If anything I do get less vendor trash/salvageable items when I have mf than without.

Since the patch i’ve done the grenth chain twice, the arah chain once, and the plinx chain twice. This amounts to:

3 Boss level npc’s
8 Champion level npc’s
3 Magnificent Chests

The loot I’ve gotten from them is:
5 white’s
8 blue’s
2 Green’s

Loot from the event chains in general has been severely nerfed. Previously the Grenth chain awared me a total of 3-4g, sometimes much more if I got an exotic drop. Those 2 runs I did both awarded me less then 1g in loot.

For reference I use ~220% MF gear during all event farming.

Sometimes you get good or bad streaks with drops, its difficult to tell if rates were nerfed off low kill counts.
For myself I try to get a sampling from 20+ repeats when its event chains or 1k+ kills on normal zone mobs. Even then it could be just luck or lack of but with just a few events or a coupel dozen kills you really can’t be sure at all.

All the conspiracy theories aside from loot being worse than before, there is one thing that simply is a fact – champions are simply not giving loot every time I kill one, that’s for sure.

Last night I killed 3 champions in Orr and only one of them gave me loot, it was a shameful blue item but either way – they were all supposed to give me loot but didn’t. Same issue happened with the people running those champions with me.

Killed 6 champions last night in CS and only the champ abomination dropped 2 blues one time. This appears the same as it was pre patch with them mostly not dropping anything.

Adding to the list…killed the champion Risen Hylek in Caledon Forest (part of the new Lost Shore events) with gold level award for completion so yes, I definitely tagged him. Drop from the champion: nothing, not even a single copper piece.

Did 2 full Plinx circuit runs with ~240% mf. Found 3 rares, 0 exotics. Previously I would average 0-4 rares / run (usually from the Plinx event itself) with an average of about 2.5, so it does seem low but my sample size is way too small to draw a conclusion from.