Guild Wars 2

Well I just typed the entire thread out and then hit control enter so I have no idea what happened to it, but here we go again.

I had recently upgraded to windows 8 and bought guild wars 2. The first time I started up the game I had 20 fps and this seemed unrealistic to me for my PC specs.

I looked into this by first trying to run another game, called TERA. This game ran at 20 fps to.

I automatically assumed it was the operating system as I had been able to run TERA at 150fps on windows 7.

This being said. I reverted. 40 fps. Wow double my fps! (*not remotely impressive). Just what the kitten is happening I thought.

Well I’ve downloaded at least 300gb since I last ran tera so let’s start there. I wiped 300 gb of data from my computer and all my pc now had on it was guild wars 2, WoW, and TERA.

Then I defragmented like any smart person would do.

And then I wiped free space.

60 fps. I can run guild wars 2 smoothly but it still seems a little bit borderline.

NO PROBLEM TIME TO OPEN UP MY DESKTOP

~Holy jesus kittenting christ what the hell is inside my computer.

I kitten you not I took a vacuum and just vacuumed my entire computer. There was so much dust on my cpu fan that it didn’t have space to move. I HAD NO COOLING SYSTEM.

So now i had 65-70 fps on high settings! It looked so smooth and beautiful. BUT IM NOT SATISFIED.

TIME TO SPEND MONEY

I went to Canada Computers and bought myself an h80i and after spending 5 hours trying to figure out (yes actually 5 hours) how to get it to work, I INSTALLED IT!

I am now running the game at 80fps consistently never dropping below 60.

With what specs you ask? GARBAGE SPECS!

8gb of RAM (3.5 usable)
Intel Core i7 CPU 930 2.8GHz 2.79 GHz
GTX 470 Nvidia Graphics Card
Piece of kitten 6 year old HDD

That’s my story and I hope it helped someone out there, good luck fixing your FPS!

I’m glad you found and shared possible methods to improve FPS. I’m sure other users will appreciate your advice. That being said, this is not really and account issue and the thread will probably be moved to a more appropriate forum, perhaps Players Helping Players.

Interesting. Are you still on Windows 7 or did you reinstall 8?

RoyHarmon.5398:

Interesting. Are you still on Windows 7 or did you reinstall 8?

I’ve actually been swapping between the two very often and what I’ve noticed is windows 8 is a RAM kitten. It’s also as I mentioned completely useless when it comes to running games. Might as well be running games on a macbook. It would suck just as much. I was thinking of dual booting since I’m switching so often. If I do, when the new windows updates come out, (which are basically a reversion to windows 7. lol oh you so funny microsoft), I will test the game and update.

Oh yeah and I’m considering overclocking for that individual core speed increase. My idle temperature is 35 right now so I’m a bit worried but I might just try it anyways.

Somebody who takes proper care of their computer hardware won’t benefit from your “fix”.

Roxter Rocking.6495:

RoyHarmon.5398:

Interesting. Are you still on Windows 7 or did you reinstall 8?

I’ve actually been swapping between the two very often and what I’ve noticed is windows 8 is a RAM kitten. It’s also as I mentioned completely useless when it comes to running games. Might as well be running games on a macbook. It would suck just as much. I was thinking of dual booting since I’m switching so often. If I do, when the new windows updates come out, (which are basically a reversion to windows 7. lol oh you so funny microsoft), I will test the game and update.

Oh yeah and I’m considering overclocking for that individual core speed increase. My idle temperature is 35 right now so I’m a bit worried but I might just try it anyways.

Considering we have the same processor and you have a better CPU cooler than my own, I can help you with overclocking and perhaps provide some tips for what I did to get my 4.1Ghz. With my high voltage setting, I see temperatures around 50-55 C in summer and a little lower in winter. Then under loads like Guild Wars 2, the cores being used see around 70-75 C. So 35C idle isn’t bad at stock everything.

Taking a vacuum to your system is an absolutely TERRIBLE thing to do. Please, for the sake of your systems safety, never ever do it again.

Clear dust the smart and safe way – Pressurized Air. Blow the dust away, let it settle in your carpet, vacuum the carpet. While your computer is fine now vacuums are a big creator of static. Static is, of course, electricity. Depending on what the static jumps to you could brick a component, corrupt some data on your hard drives or even brick the system.

Remember, always practice safe computing.

You might want to get a new HD, before it suddenly fails without warning. Happened to me.

Wow….the things I read in this forum…..

Ilithis Mithilander.3265:

Roxter Rocking.6495:

RoyHarmon.5398:

Interesting. Are you still on Windows 7 or did you reinstall 8?

I’ve actually been swapping between the two very often and what I’ve noticed is windows 8 is a RAM kitten. It’s also as I mentioned completely useless when it comes to running games. Might as well be running games on a macbook. It would suck just as much. I was thinking of dual booting since I’m switching so often. If I do, when the new windows updates come out, (which are basically a reversion to windows 7. lol oh you so funny microsoft), I will test the game and update.

Oh yeah and I’m considering overclocking for that individual core speed increase. My idle temperature is 35 right now so I’m a bit worried but I might just try it anyways.

Considering we have the same processor and you have a better CPU cooler than my own, I can help you with overclocking and perhaps provide some tips for what I did to get my 4.1Ghz. With my high voltage setting, I see temperatures around 50-55 C in summer and a little lower in winter. Then under loads like Guild Wars 2, the cores being used see around 70-75 C. So 35C idle isn’t bad at stock everything.

If you could that’d be great, my skype is roxter.rocking

Talking there would be easier.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Taking a vacuum to your system is an absolutely TERRIBLE thing to do. Please, for the sake of your systems safety, never ever do it again.

Clear dust the smart and safe way – Pressurized Air. Blow the dust away, let it settle in your carpet, vacuum the carpet. While your computer is fine now vacuums are a big creator of static. Static is, of course, electricity. Depending on what the static jumps to you could brick a component, corrupt some data on your hard drives or even brick the system.

Remember, always practice safe computing.

Well thankfully nothing bad happened but thank you very much for the warning! I won’t be doing that again any time soon.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Taking a vacuum to your system is an absolutely TERRIBLE thing to do. Please, for the sake of your systems safety, never ever do it again.

Clear dust the smart and safe way – Pressurized Air. Blow the dust away, let it settle in your carpet, vacuum the carpet. While your computer is fine now vacuums are a big creator of static. Static is, of course, electricity. Depending on what the static jumps to you could brick a component, corrupt some data on your hard drives or even brick the system.

Remember, always practice safe computing.

Didn’t know that. Thanks for the information

Did you overclock your vacuum?

dovrak.4376:

Did you overclock your vacuum?

Yes for the delicate operation I inserted several syringes into it putting over and clock into clock over then if went to where clock over tomorrow working eleven 15gb.

And it worked wonderfully.

Roxter Rocking.6495:

I had recently upgraded to windows 8 and bought guild wars 2. The first time I started up the game I had 20 fps and this seemed unrealistic to me for my PC specs.

I looked into this by first trying to run another game, called TERA. This game ran at 20 fps to.

I automatically assumed it was the operating system as I had been able to run TERA at 150fps on windows 7.

This being said. I reverted. 40 fps. Wow double my fps! (*not remotely impressive). Just what the kitten is happening I thought.

Well I’ve downloaded at least 300gb since I last ran tera so let’s start there. I wiped 300 gb of data from my computer and all my pc now had on it was guild wars 2, WoW, and TERA.

Then I defragmented like any smart person would do.

And then I wiped free space.

60 fps. I can run guild wars 2 smoothly but it still seems a little bit borderline.

NO PROBLEM TIME TO OPEN UP MY DESKTOP

~Holy jesus kittenting christ what the hell is inside my computer.

I kitten you not I took a vacuum and just vacuumed my entire computer. There was so much dust on my cpu fan that it didn’t have space to move. I HAD NO COOLING SYSTEM.

So now i had 65-70 fps on high settings! It looked so smooth and beautiful. BUT IM NOT SATISFIED.

TIME TO SPEND MONEY

I went to Canada Computers and bought myself an h80i and after spending 5 hours trying to figure out (yes actually 5 hours) how to get it to work, I INSTALLED IT!

I am now running the game at 80fps consistently never dropping below 60.

With what specs you ask? GARBAGE SPECS!

8gb of RAM (3.5 usable)
Intel Core i7 CPU 930 2.8GHz 2.79 GHz
GTX 470 Nvidia Graphics Card
Piece of kitten 6 year old HDD

That’s my story and I hope it helped someone out there, good luck fixing your FPS!

And this is proof that you don’t need GODLY specs to play this game enjoyably. Maintain your comp performance!

This got me to give defrag a try. I haven’t really done it since I copied everything to a new hard drive so why not do it now? AND HOLY COW IT IS HELLA FRAGGED. Okay, not SO much fragged but it is. Still.

Roxter Rocking.6495:

8gb of RAM (3.5 usable)
Intel Core i7 CPU 930 2.8GHz 2.79 GHz
GTX 470 Nvidia Graphics Card
Piece of kitten 6 year old HDD

By the way OP! I got a friend who uses the same specs but with 12 GB of RAM and GTX 480s. He get’s wicked FPS and his processor is also watercooled with I think an H60. His CPU is also overclocked to 4 GHz and last he told me he was rocking like 140-160 fps in Ebonhawke with a single 480. Your system’s got a lot of potential!

Ah, the old “clean your heatsink” fix. Which reminds me it’s been a year, need to buy some can air.

Oh and when you do use can air, immobilize your fans before using the air. Turning them into pinwheels may seem fun but really isn’t good for them. Finger or coffee stirrer works.

Behellagh.1468:

Ah, the old “clean your heatsink” fix. Which reminds me it’s been a year, need to buy some can air.

Oh and when you do use can air, immobilize your fans before using the air. Turning them into pinwheels may seem fun but really isn’t good for them. Finger or coffee stirrer works.

I use a high pressure air tank with needle tip air nozzle from a high capacity air compressor at I think it’s like 10-20 PSI. I don’t keep my fans immobilized but the pressure is high enough that I just wave it across and it goes. For my watercooler I stick it between the blades and go in circles.

spec:
gtx 680 × 2
16gb ddr3
i7 2600k 5ghz
SSD 600 mbs read write speed.
WINDOWS 8.

I get 100 to 200 fps, all settings high/ultra (water set to only water because it buggers ambient occlusion)

I do get CTD some times, and the rare bsod, but over all it runs fine of windows 8, actually seems a lot more optimized compared to win 7

A note to those who have Solid State Drives, never defrag them.
I have seen spiders nests, dead mice and an assortment of other nasty things inside systems. Even workstations in an immaculate office setting.
Always make sure to ground yourself out(touch the case or psu) before cleaning anything in your system.
Glad that cleaning out a wool blanket out of the CPU heatsink helped the OP.

Hello everyone. I’m not having FPS issues per say, but sometimes the game responds slow for me. There are times i’ll have to hit an ability twice because it didn’t go off the first time. I also get weapon swap and ability lag, where they take a little longer to execute then they should. I really have no idea how what is happening to cause this. I’ve tried running with Vsync on and off, increasing and decreasing video settings, and checking for viruses, malware, etc. My FPS doesn’t feel like it’s dropping when these issues occur. Does anyone have any insight on this?

Stormcrow.7513:

A note to those who have Solid State Drives, never defrag them.

Actually I defragged my SSD with a different defragger that also optimized it. It moved all of the defragged data back into one area of the SSD so it’s not all over the place and I not only regained 8.5 GB of space back since I installed GW2, but my startup time was also cut in half. I think that /may/ be reason to believe that some types of defrag can help it.

Defragging an SSD reduces it’s lifespan, which is why it’s not recommended.

They reason defragging is suggested for normal hard drives is because the average seek time of 14ms is equivalent to the time it takes to read 1.4 MB of data at 100MB/s. Every time the disk needs to “seek” to to fill a read request, it’s like asking if to read an additional 1.4 MB of data, even if it request was only 4KB. The idea behind defragging improving performance is to reduce the number of additional seeks to fill the request to 0.

Since SSDs don’t have an equivalent to “seek time” so there is nothing to reduce. And as I said before, the extra writes that come from defragging will reduce the life span of an SSD is the total number of writes is limited.

Behellagh.1468:

Defragging an SSD reduces it’s lifespan, which is why it’s not recommended.

I recall the old generation of SSDs coming with that qwerk. SSDs are getting better for that now so far as I’ve learned.

So …playing on windows 8 give 20fps less,thats strange since i heard people say the exact oppossite with gw2 playing smoother on win 8,but that might be related to the rest ofyour hardware.And how on earth does defragmenting your HD can give you Another 20fps boost…that’s just beyond me..unles you havent defragmented your hd for 5 y,it would barely make a difference.And magically dusting out your pc gives you anothr 20fps boost,..You will not get a 20fps boost from any of those things.
How is this helpfull info Really…? Dust out your pc,buy a Watercooler for your cpu and defrag….? Jump around in 10circles and pray for that 60fps boost….Yeah ok….

Well this isn’t useful for us to keep out PC clean and even at that I doubt it will give you that much of a FPS boost, I think it was probably a different driver or somethine. Win 8 I can see being crap, newer isn’t always better. Same goes for Nvidia drivers, I downloaded the newest Nvidia driver and I lost FPS in WvW compared to the older drivers.

Small tip .. whenever u clean out your pc be it with a vacuum or with pressurized air:)
ALWAYS use a pencil or some sort 2 keep your fans from moving around..

That is what builds up static electricity

Defragging will not give you a 50fps boost
Cleaning dust will not give you a 50fps boost

Trust me, I’ve jumped those hoops. I’ve run a lot of tests – Unigine, Speccy, CPU-z, GPU temp, CPU temp – to name but a few. I’ve had my PC cleaned- of dust, malware, everything.

There was a patch on 02/07/13 that throttled my FPS something chronic. That is the culprit. If it isn’t, I’ll happily eat my CPU fan.

Flatley.1620:

Defragging will not give you a 50fps boost
Cleaning dust will not give you a 50fps boost

Trust me, I’ve jumped those hoops. I’ve run a lot of tests – Unigine, Speccy, CPU-z, GPU temp, CPU temp – to name but a few. I’ve had my PC cleaned- of dust, malware, everything.

There was a patch on 02/07/13 that throttled my FPS something chronic. That is the culprit. If it isn’t, I’ll happily eat my CPU fan.

Cleaning dust that was so bad to the point where it made the heat climb can probably help things.

and for the record, 50 FPS increase from either of those too is also preposterous to consider possible… Let’s change that to say 10-20 from cleaning a REALLY BAD mess… such as what OP did. :F
(I got 3-4 fps in some places after defragging too.)

Avelos.6798:

Behellagh.1468:

Defragging an SSD reduces it’s lifespan, which is why it’s not recommended.

I recall the old generation of SSDs coming with that qwerk. SSDs are getting better for that now so far as I’ve learned.

You don’t read many SSD articles do you. The problem for consumer grade SSDs has actually been getting worse not better. As flash memory has been getting denser, the number of write cycles have been going down. It’s not a “quirk”.

Flash have a limited number of write cycles. MLC flash used in SSDs have only 2-3K number of write cycles. Now manufacturers use of “wear leveling”, over provisioning and internal data compression to delay the inevitable as long as possible.

So why aggravate this limitation when you don’t have to.

Behellagh.1468:

Avelos.6798:

Behellagh.1468:

Defragging an SSD reduces it’s lifespan, which is why it’s not recommended.

I recall the old generation of SSDs coming with that qwerk. SSDs are getting better for that now so far as I’ve learned.

You don’t read many SSD articles do you. The problem for consumer grade SSDs has actually been getting worse not better. As flash memory has been getting denser, the number of write cycles have been going down. It’s not a “quirk”.

Flash have a limited number of write cycles. MLC flash used in SSDs have only 2-3K number of write cycles. Now manufacturers use of “wear leveling”, over provisioning and internal data compression to delay the inevitable as long as possible.

So why aggravate this limitation when you don’t have to.

I understand defragging is not recommended and I also shared this tip to some friends but in my case, doing the defrag and optimize allowed me to regain almost 10 GB of space that was honestly wasted for no reason whatsoever. This amount of space started getting eaten up right as soon as I finished installing Guild Wars 2 and playing it so even though defrag is bad for an SSD, I’m still glad I did it this one time and regained that space and speed might I add.