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Posted by: Solicia.2861

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So to start with, my system:

windows 7 64bit

intel quad core 3GHz processor (the QX6850 if I remember the number right, a model or two just before the i-series came out)

GTX 660 Ti geforce card

The problem:

I can’t seem to break 30 fps for the life of me. I’ve tried everything from tinkering with the settings to setting everything to bare minimum, the fps just doesn’t move.

The odd thing is, is that the fps difference between max and min settings is only 1-5 fps, so I’m unsure what’s going on here.

I’ve tried adjusting while in a town, and while in a fighting area.

Any ideas?

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Posted by: SaadBaig.8560

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Its your processor. A 660Ti is MORE than capable of maxing that game out at a decent framerate (forgetting WvW)

For WvW reference, my weaker 7850 usually see’s almost 100FPS roaming WvW, and 30FPS during heavy zerg fights maxed out.

40 vs 30 zerg war yesterday on EB got my i5 3570k @ 4.5Ghz to 100% CPU usage…

You need a processor/mobo upgrade STAT

My recommendations are i5 3570k/4670k + ASRock Extreme4 for a decent experience. More if you have the $$

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…I’m slightly confused, this isn’t a low end processor by any means, the Intel Core 2 Extreme Q6850 @ 3.00GHz to give you exactly what it reads…but your saying this is a weak processor?

Just hard to believe, I can pull 40-50 fps on the original crysis at one setting below max with this same processor, and Tomb Raider runs at a solid 60 fps with no hiccups (well, except for the issue with hair tesselations, but that’s another problem all together).

I didn’t think this game took THAT much processing power…did it?

EDIT:

Just as a side note, I’ve checked to make sure, and yes, the pci express slot IS staying at 2.0, so it isn’t the power saving mode of the computer trying to kick in causing it.

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Posted by: SaadBaig.8560

SaadBaig.8560

Let me get you a comparison Between your processor and mine.
Your CPU @3Ghz was benched on Passmark as – 3737
Compare that to a stock 3570k @ 3.4Ghz – 7123

Keep in mind my processor is overclocked to 4.5Ghz and I STILL can reach 100% CPU usage during Zerg vs Zerg wars…

And I have a slightly weaker graphics card than you have, yet I get around 3 times the FPS performance maxed out.

Its DEFINITELY a CPU intensive game. As you can see.

The Original Crysis was (and still is) a very GPU heavy game, hence why you can max it out smoothly. GW2 is a very heavy CPU heavy game. Your 660Ti wouldn’t break a sweat running GW2 maxed out, by ANY means, its definitely your CPU.

BTW, your CPU was released a whopping 5 years ago in 2008. Your CPU is heavily dated.

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It’s not a low end processor, it’s just old. As for your examples, the original crysis came out in 2007, and AFAIK Tomb Raider depends mostly on GPU.

GW2 is extremely CPU bound, especially in large scale events/WvW (and yes, changing settings won’t help much). If you’re willing to do an upgrade, your best bet is to wait for Haswell to come out next month (or, if you want AMD, get an 8350 now). I’d say go with an i5 4670K or i7 4770K, along with a motherboard upgrade. If you’re willing to overclock (with aftermarket cooling), doing so will help your FPS in large battles quite a bit.

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Posted by: HugoCosta.6735

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You guys didn’t understand what he said, he is trying to say that, he tried everything, even play in extremely low setting, and whatever he does nothing work, just to say I’m getting the same issue here.

My game was FINE, and suddenly my fps dropped like the op said, and if you do a search in the forum you will find out that there are more people with the same problem.

There is something wrong with this game, so, I would like to ask to Anet, please to investigate this issue, a lot of people have nice gaming pc and doesn’t matter what they do, the low fps persist.

Sorry for my poor english.

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Alright, well, been dealing with their tech support. And they had me download and send a copy of my “speccy” to them (This was after sending screen shots in game, screen shots of GPU-Z and CPU-Z, and using their Game Advisor). It shows my ram running at 333Mhz (is only DDR2), and it can run at 400MHz, that this is probably the cause.

I SINCERELY doubt that extra 67MHz on 8GB of ram is going to bring this game up to proper speed, but while I’m fairly knowledgeable about computers, I can’t say I’m fluent with Ram speeds and how they affect GW2, so maybe I am wrong.

I was interested in upgrading anyway, so I just purchased myself an i7-3770 ivy bridge, set to 3.4GHz (turboboost brings it to 3.9GHz), the asrock p77 extreme4 board, and 16GB (2×8GB) of pc12800 DDR3 ram. This will be combined with my GTX 660 Ti, and I will be using liquid cooling on the processor.

I’ll be kitten if this doesn’t run at ridiculously fast speeds, and severely kitten .

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Posted by: Ilithis Mithilander.3265

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That RAM speed shouldn’t be an issue. My sibling’s build runs a dated system with DDR2 RAM @ 667MHz. Due to the ‘double data rate’ multiple your 333 by 2 and account for some round off errors and you come out with the same speed as my sibling’s build which runs the game. It doesn’t run the game well, but well enough at 25+ FPS.

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That RAM speed shouldn’t be an issue. My sibling’s build runs a dated system with DDR2 RAM @ 667MHz. Due to the ‘double data rate’ multiple your 333 by 2 and account for some round off errors and you come out with the same speed as my sibling’s build which runs the game. It doesn’t run the game well, but well enough at 25+ FPS.

I figured as much, but as I don’t know the rest of your siblings specs, hard to compare, but this particular build should NOT be getting 25+ fps, but should be MUCH closer to 60 fps (should honestly be higher than that I think, but I’m very content at 60).

This game is only a part of the reason I’m upgrading the processor, the other part is I just really wanted too.

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That RAM speed shouldn’t be an issue. My sibling’s build runs a dated system with DDR2 RAM @ 667MHz. Due to the ‘double data rate’ multiple your 333 by 2 and account for some round off errors and you come out with the same speed as my sibling’s build which runs the game. It doesn’t run the game well, but well enough at 25+ FPS.

I figured as much, but as I don’t know the rest of your siblings specs, hard to compare, but this particular build should NOT be getting 25+ fps, but should be MUCH closer to 60 fps (should honestly be higher than that I think, but I’m very content at 60).

This game is only a part of the reason I’m upgrading the processor, the other part is I just really wanted too.

My bad, they’re running a C2D E6320 overclocked slightly to 2.0Ghz, a GTX 650Ti, and 2GB of RAM.

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That RAM speed shouldn’t be an issue. My sibling’s build runs a dated system with DDR2 RAM @ 667MHz. Due to the ‘double data rate’ multiple your 333 by 2 and account for some round off errors and you come out with the same speed as my sibling’s build which runs the game. It doesn’t run the game well, but well enough at 25+ FPS.

I figured as much, but as I don’t know the rest of your siblings specs, hard to compare, but this particular build should NOT be getting 25+ fps, but should be MUCH closer to 60 fps (should honestly be higher than that I think, but I’m very content at 60).

This game is only a part of the reason I’m upgrading the processor, the other part is I just really wanted too.

My bad, they’re running a C2D E6320 overclocked slightly to 2.0Ghz, a GTX 650Ti, and 2GB of RAM.

Yea, if that’s your build, and you’re getting about 25 fps, there isn’t ANY reason I shouldn’t be doubling that, and to be getting around that on low settings at my build? Yea, shenanigans ensues.

Parts just came in for new computer, I’m starting building it up on saturday, watch my blood pressure soar if this game doesn’t break 60 fps >→

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Posted by: Ilithis Mithilander.3265

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That RAM speed shouldn’t be an issue. My sibling’s build runs a dated system with DDR2 RAM @ 667MHz. Due to the ‘double data rate’ multiple your 333 by 2 and account for some round off errors and you come out with the same speed as my sibling’s build which runs the game. It doesn’t run the game well, but well enough at 25+ FPS.

I figured as much, but as I don’t know the rest of your siblings specs, hard to compare, but this particular build should NOT be getting 25+ fps, but should be MUCH closer to 60 fps (should honestly be higher than that I think, but I’m very content at 60).

This game is only a part of the reason I’m upgrading the processor, the other part is I just really wanted too.

My bad, they’re running a C2D E6320 overclocked slightly to 2.0Ghz, a GTX 650Ti, and 2GB of RAM.

Yea, if that’s your build, and you’re getting about 25 fps, there isn’t ANY reason I shouldn’t be doubling that, and to be getting around that on low settings at my build? Yea, shenanigans ensues.

Parts just came in for new computer, I’m starting building it up on saturday, watch my blood pressure soar if this game doesn’t break 60 fps >->

Well prepare to find ways to reduce your blood pressure. If you’re expecting 60FPS in all areas of the game you are in for a surprise because you won’t be able to in large dynamic events and chaotic WvW battles of 100+ people. No one can…unless you have a supercomputer handy from what I hear.

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That RAM speed shouldn’t be an issue. My sibling’s build runs a dated system with DDR2 RAM @ 667MHz. Due to the ‘double data rate’ multiple your 333 by 2 and account for some round off errors and you come out with the same speed as my sibling’s build which runs the game. It doesn’t run the game well, but well enough at 25+ FPS.

I figured as much, but as I don’t know the rest of your siblings specs, hard to compare, but this particular build should NOT be getting 25+ fps, but should be MUCH closer to 60 fps (should honestly be higher than that I think, but I’m very content at 60).

This game is only a part of the reason I’m upgrading the processor, the other part is I just really wanted too.

My bad, they’re running a C2D E6320 overclocked slightly to 2.0Ghz, a GTX 650Ti, and 2GB of RAM.

Yea, if that’s your build, and you’re getting about 25 fps, there isn’t ANY reason I shouldn’t be doubling that, and to be getting around that on low settings at my build? Yea, shenanigans ensues.

Parts just came in for new computer, I’m starting building it up on saturday, watch my blood pressure soar if this game doesn’t break 60 fps >->

Well prepare to find ways to reduce your blood pressure. If you’re expecting 60FPS in all areas of the game you are in for a surprise because you won’t be able to in large dynamic events and chaotic WvW battles of 100+ people. No one can…unless you have a supercomputer handy from what I hear.

Computer built, and indeed getting my 60fps in game (though it seems to not like shadows, which is understandable, most games don’t.

I understand WvW is a massive undertaking, so not expecting full frames in that on this build, but I’m expecting at least 20-30 if they are as massive as I hear.

I’m still disappointed that still very good processor couldn’t push the game, really does seem like poor coding. Processor’s are important, sure, but the graphics card should be doing a good chunk of the work.

Oh well, onward to blow things up!

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Posted by: abomally.2694

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Check your Nvidia settings in the Nvidia control panel (right-click on the screen).

Make sure that Vsync is turned off.