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Posted by: Sirrus.1786

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Whenever I’m in an area with a relatively flat floor texture I see these straight lines that form a grid like pattern. I see them a lot in cities, dungeons, and random buildings outside.

Here’s my Specs : Core i5 3570k, 8gb Ram, HD7950, Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
This is all on a fresh install of Windows 7 and I’ve tried the latest AMD drivers as well as several past iterations with no change.

Also, I attached my DxDiag report since I know Anet loves that stuff.

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Posted by: Megido.9456

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7xxx series problem. Same lines (+ blue artifacts flickering) on my 7850. Ati knows about problem with their drivers ( more like they are pure kitten not a problem.). Everyone i know with 7xxx series card have thoes lines

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Posted by: Sirrus.1786

Sirrus.1786

7xxx series problem. Same lines (+ blue artifacts flickering) on my 7850. Ati knows about problem with their drivers ( more like they are pure kitten not a problem.). Everyone i know with 7xxx series card have thoes lines

Yeh I do also notice flickering as well if I alt-tab out and re-enter the game.

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Posted by: Iyeru.5240

Iyeru.5240

Yeah, I do too, and the grid actually goes onto the NPCs as well sometimes. I have an AMD Radeon HD 7950 with Beta 12.11 (Since it fixes dx9 image corruption) Drivers.

* (A strange light fills the room. Twilight is shining ahead. You’re filled with, DETERMINATION.)

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Posted by: Megido.9456

Megido.9456

Well 12.11 fixed nothing at least not in gw2

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Posted by: Apocrypha.4016

Apocrypha.4016

Same issue here Sapphire 7950. Glad to hear it’s probably driver related. Come on 12.12 drivers where are you?

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Posted by: Sirrus.1786

Sirrus.1786

13.1 does nothing

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Posted by: benten.9802

benten.9802

Same here sadly with my HD7950, had these floor grid like glitch ever since the beta of GW2, now with clean install of 13.1 they still ain’t fixed it.

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Posted by: hoegarden.4287

hoegarden.4287

I’ve the sapphire vapor x 7970, and it looks all fine to me. No such lines on the floor.

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Posted by: Apocrypha.4016

Apocrypha.4016

13.2 beta is out, Going to check if problem is fixed. Game runs much better now too.
EDIT: Ok nevermind lines are still present even with new drivers…

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Posted by: Megido.9456

Megido.9456

hoegarden mind sharing your settings in ccc? If you say you dont have thoes it seems it might be hardware fault on a huge batch of thoes 7xxx cards. I checked 3 already and all of them had thoes lines where my friends 670 gtx (checked it in my cpu) did not same as my integrated hd4000. My card is currently at rma (third one already yay) i hope to get new one cuz this one had noisy cappricors. I hope new card might fix the bug but still it seems like some drivers issues not card (no other games have problem like this).

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Posted by: Apocrypha.4016

Apocrypha.4016

At least the flickering appears to be gone with the new 13.2 beta. YAY! Only took a year to fix!

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Posted by: hoegarden.4287

hoegarden.4287

In the attachments you can see my info about the CCC drivers.
Make sure for the 3D settings you let the application handle it. If you force it, you can get weird stuff

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Posted by: Jazhara Knightmage.4389

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Ok heres my tip for fixing this for AMD users

get this http://www.radeonpro.info/en-US/Downloads/Preview.aspx

create a profile for this game that leaves everything up to the driver, then test, you may also want to put the login info into the command line augments/arguements thing in the rp profile(needed if you wana use smaa and have it work)

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Command_line_arguments
-email myname@myprovider.com -password 12345 -nopatchui
the above is safe, and will let you use SMAA via radeonpro(far far better then fxaa….)

the next tip is to install the 13.2 beta drivers
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=374305

for more info/help with RadeonPro http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373303

honestly, this tool can let you do alot, including what I do, enable triple buffer, and limit fps to 30(can also enable double vsync in same section) this will smooth game play alot, and funny enough seems to help fps stay at 30 stable even for people whos systems regularly dropped below that before…..

I will see about possibly posting a seperate thread with some settings for everybody.

and before anybody asks, radeon pro is legit, its been around a long time and nobody has ever even accused the creator of anything slightly shady…..check the threads on guru3d(the forum he uses for his dev and support)

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Posted by: Sai.5908

Sai.5908

I am not having any lines but terrain seems to be disappearing for me and I could see through walls and floors . Here is an example of what I mean .

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Posted by: hoegarden.4287

hoegarden.4287

Has you can see, mine works fine. Maybe the anti aliasing you guys uses is the one from the driver and not from the game. Anyway, not all the 7xxx serie has this problem

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Posted by: Jazhara Knightmage.4389

Jazhara Knightmage.4389

if you all can try it, try using atiman to uninstall your drives, then install the 13.2 drivers clean, that should remove any buggered profiles or filter settings that may be causing issues.

and also try making a clean radeon pro profile.

gw2 dosnt support driver based AA, you can use the in game AA or SMAA, due to how gw2 renders, with dx9 you cant also have real aa….if they had done with dx11 they could have supported dx9/10/11 videocards and allowed real AA…(and likely avoided alot of these problems) but they went dx9 so they coudl get sales to people running xp……(whos systems enlarge arent gonna be able to run this game worth a kitten.)

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Posted by: Apocrypha.4016

Apocrypha.4016

I copied your catalyst settings exactly and the lines still appear in certain areas. 13.2 Beta Sapphire 7950

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Posted by: Syphirr.3512

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Also have this issue on a freshly installed system after upgrading to a HD7950 from a HD6850 (No problem) Definitely a driver issue for HD7xxx series I think.

Hoegarden, in regards to your screenshot, the lines wouldn’t normally show up there. It’s only in certain places in the game. Could you take another screenshot just inside the entrance of Ascalonian Catacombs? The Lines are most prominent there.

Anyway, I’ve tried the latest beta drivers (13.2) and no change. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.. It’s not gamebreaking but it’s nasty to look at. In the dredge fractal the lines go over almost all the terrain, and it looks hideous.

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Posted by: hoegarden.4287

hoegarden.4287

i made one now from the same place has the first screen. Still no lines.
I’m running the game with every setting at high. So i have no idea why some have it, and some doesn’t :/

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Posted by: Syphirr.3512

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You actually do have a line there, it’s just VERY hard to see in rata sum. Look between the two asura on the left. I’ll put some screenshots up comparing mine to yours when I’m on later.

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Posted by: Syphirr.3512

Syphirr.3512

You can see from these images that it’s very hard to see the lines where you took the screenshot, but as soon as you go into AC..

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Posted by: hoegarden.4287

hoegarden.4287

Yeah i see, after going to some other places those lines appeared too here. But not so hard to see has on your screen. Lowering the graphics didn’t changed anything for me about those lines. Maybe it is a game design problem :p

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Posted by: Apocrypha.4016

Apocrypha.4016

Oh God don’t get me started on AC. The place looks like a chess board. The picture Syphirr posted here really doesn’t even do it justice. There are areas much worse in explorable mode, like the huge room when you repair the mortars.

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Posted by: Ashley Segovia.8276

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Hey guys sorry to hear that so many of you are experiencing this issue. We’re still currently looking into this but at the moment there is no known resolution.

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Posted by: Willis.1789

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Hey all, I just wanted to let you know I’m experiencing this too. Yesterday when I was in the secret dungeon in the mountains near the vista at Lion’s Arch, I saw the lines (I thought they were tripwires at first) while following the ghost. This only appears in certain areas (mostly caves and dungeons like that). Even then, only in certain areas in those unless I didn’t notice them.

My GPU is a 7970 IceQ X2 with the 13.1 version of the driver, all settings in CCC at default & in-game settings at max except LOD and shadows at High instead of Ultra (V-Sync is also turned on but that’s irrelevant).

These lines remind me of lines used in modeling programs. XD

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Posted by: pownguin.9205

pownguin.9205

Any news on this? I can’t stand seeing these lines on the ground. It’s making me go crazy. Pretty ridiculous how long people have had this problem and there is no fix, at least that I can find.

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Posted by: Waylander.5428

Waylander.5428

I just wanted to say that I’m having this issue, too. Beta driver from AMD (13.2) didn’t change a thing (except crashes when I try to do screenshots :-) ).

I just checked the german forum and there is also a thread about this, without solution so far. If they find out something over there, I’ll let you know…

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Posted by: pownguin.9205

pownguin.9205

If they find out something over there, I’ll let you know…

Thanks, hope they do.

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Posted by: Lost at Sea.3925

Lost at Sea.3925

I also have this issue. 12.11 on 7970m

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Posted by: Hickeroar.9734

Hickeroar.9734

I’ve had this issue since launch. Two different AMD graphics cards and AMD CPUs. Run beta and WHQL drivers with no effect.

No other games I play have this issue.

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Posted by: Megido.9456

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Yep still no fix…..

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Posted by: Mint.7135

Mint.7135

i have had the same thing but it didn’t show up until i installed the latest drivers for my video card about 4 months ago, i just ignored it because it didn’t effect my game play, but it still is an issue for me.

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Posted by: Lexandro.1456

Lexandro.1456

I have the same issue only much worse on my 3870, and users of both 4xxx and 5xxx cards have also reported the same issue with various different driver packages. Its a GW2 specific issue with the lighting system and how it displays it with AMD cards. If you notice, the lines are drawn on top of character models that pass through them which indicates its a lighting effect gone wrong.

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Posted by: Jazhara Knightmage.4389

Jazhara Knightmage.4389

Hey all, I just wanted to let you know I’m experiencing this too. Yesterday when I was in the secret dungeon in the mountains near the vista at Lion’s Arch, I saw the lines (I thought they were tripwires at first) while following the ghost. This only appears in certain areas (mostly caves and dungeons like that). Even then, only in certain areas in those unless I didn’t notice them.

My GPU is a 7970 IceQ X2 with the 13.1 version of the driver, all settings in CCC at default & in-game settings at max except LOD and shadows at High instead of Ultra (V-Sync is also turned on but that’s irrelevant).

These lines remind me of lines used in modeling programs. XD

It wont fix the lines, but you should try running the 13.2 beta’s with that card, they have frame latency fixes for this game.

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Posted by: defragger.2483

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So theres still no solution for that, think we should keep this thread up…

btw i just saw that the lines on the ground have corresponding lines in the sky, maybe that helps understanding the main problem here

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Posted by: defragger.2483

defragger.2483

And up again…

btw just tested today ati driver beta 13.5 (still no changes)
tested all options, still no chance to get rid of these lines

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Posted by: Waylander.5428

Waylander.5428

Since the problem is still around for a lot of people and there has been no change with newer drivers, I’d like to see a comment from the developers on what they’re trying to fix this issue.

BTW: Does anyone of you know about a driver version in which those “weird lines” don’t occure?

Thanks a lot

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Posted by: Vettic.8215

Vettic.8215

I’m have a similar issue as the op in areas such as divinity’s reach and ascalonian catacombs, but i’m noticing that all the people having these issues have ATI cards, however mine is an nvidia GTX 590.

also i dont think this is a texture issue, i’m not sure as to what IS causing it but as you can see from the picture below the lines also appear on my character when in the areas displaying this bug.

note how the vertical line running up the coat is on the same axis as the line on the ground and wall, also there is a horizontal line along the inside of my collar and around my boot, these are at the same height as the respective horizontal lines on the walls.

also these lines are less apparent in the screenshot than in-game, while playing, the lines are about twice as thick.

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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I only ever hear of this problem with HD 7000 cards running Beta drivers