Guild Wars 2

Hello all, I have been doing some searching around the internet for what people think about the fx 8350. It seems that all I can find is people asking whether or not to buy it as an upgrade over BD/Phenom. Most people that reply to the threads just jump bandwagon and say “get the i5’s as they are better for gaming.”

So, I am here to clear some things up.

1) Yes, MOST games don’t use 8 cores (bf3 multiplayer being an exception to that) and 4 cores is becoming more main stream. So, why get the 8350? Well, out of all of the amd processors the fx 8350 has the most powerful cores and is the highest binned chip so it get the best ocing potential. So, even if you aren’t using all 8, the 4 that you are using are the best in socket, and you have 4 cores left over to multitask with. woot.

2) “8 cores is a waste”. This cant be more false and half of that was covered in 1). The other half I will cover here. The majority of people with good pc’s own bf3. bf3 runs off of the frostbite 2 engine, and frostbite 2 has shown support for 8 cores in bf3 multiplayer. Now, take that knowledge and couple it with the fact that frostbite 2 is the engine that will be featured in almost all of EA’s upcoming titles. Also, more cores ALWAYS ages better than less cores with more power per core. This is so because as games progressively move more towards multithreading (as they will be now with next gen consoles having huge multi-core cpus), you will need more threads to run games optimally. Hence why if you play farcry 3 and compare a core 2 duo to a Phenom x4, the phenom x4 will destroy it. That is also why in bf3 multiplayer an fx 8350 > an i5 3570k.

Now, here are my games that I currently play:
BF3
Tribes Ascend
GW2

My Rig:
fx 8350
radeon 7950
16 gb ram
1080p
vsync

In BF3 I play with everything maxed out, and I get 60 fps the majority of the time and occasionally take a dip to 45-50. I am sure that vsync has something to do with this. My gpu usage is at a constant 99% meaning that there is no cpu bottlenecking going on.

Next Tribes Ascend I play at max settings and inject x8 AA into the game (which unlockes visuals such as jetpacks lighting up that the game doesn’t support with it’s ingame settings. Kind of like a hidden setting. Its kind of weird.). I Never dip below 60 fps.

Finally GW2, I play maxed out including SS. I get a constant 60 fps in sPVP, get 30+ in LA, and get 60 fps while exploring. The lowest I have ever gotten was 17 fps during a dragon event with a $* ton of people zerging it. That was closely followed by 18 fps in a wvwvw zerg that I would have to estimate had about 70+ people in it.

I have done some research and people have been complaining that their i5’s oced to 4.4 ghz+ dip below 20 fps in wvwvw zergs. This, by all accounts, should beat my fx 8350 handily do to public perception. However, from my experience, it doesn’t. This low fps may be caused by the client bottlenecking itself and/or an internet speed issue (although I have Verizon FiOS).

So, if you are thinking about upgrading your old cpu to the fx 8350, I would say do it. There is honestly no reason not to if you have already have a am3+ socket mobo. Don’t be perturbed by from buying this thing because the public perception is that it isn’t for gaming. I upgraded from an fx 4100 @4.3 ghz to this and gained 15+ fps in all of my games except gw2 zergs (which leads me to believe that its a client issue more than anything), I went from 9- 11 fps in zergs to sub-20.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328.html
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

FX-8350 is a pretty good cpu, its priced close to the i5-3570K and performance is close too. Some games/apps the 8350 falls behind while other games its on par or better.

If someone already has a mobo that can support the 8350 then its the logical choice to upgrade. If someone is planning to build from scratch intel might be better overall. Only large difference I see is power consumption where intel does very well, for some it might not matter, but it can add up over time in places where electricity is expensive.

Tbh.
I get same fps and even better in WvW ( 23 in massive fights ) and around 40 fps in LA with:

i3-3220.

Do yes amd suck.
Don’t get me wrong. It’s good CPU for ppl who use a lot of stuff on pc like video decoding, rendering etc.
It’s still not gaming CPU – due to low single core performance.

It’s ment to be compared to i5-3570k as AMD stated.
The difference is that i5 oc’d to 4/4.5 ghz gets 45 stable fps in massive WvW ( over 60++ ppl ). while yours dips to 17.

And price difference isn’t so big.

So yes overall if u want a CPU that will last for few years get i5 or wait till early summer for new AMD cpu structure.

Trust me cause I had myself a hard time with chosing i3-3220 vs amd fx 6300 ( which is 6 core brother of 8350 ) and im glad i took i3 :>

Mrowqa.3861:

Tbh.
I get same fps and even better in WvW ( 23 in massive fights ) and around 40 fps in LA with:

i3-3220.

Do yes amd suck.
Don’t get me wrong. It’s good CPU for ppl who use a lot of stuff on pc like video decoding, rendering etc.
It’s still not gaming CPU – due to low single core performance.

It’s ment to be compared to i5-3570k as AMD stated.
The difference is that i5 oc’d to 4/4.5 ghz gets 45 stable fps in massive WvW ( over 60++ ppl ). while yours dips to 17.

And price difference isn’t so big.

So yes overall if u want a CPU that will last for few years get i5 or wait till early summer for new AMD cpu structure.

Trust me cause I had myself a hard time with chosing i3-3220 vs amd fx 6300 ( which is 6 core brother of 8350 ) and im glad i took i3 :>

Completely False,An i5 stays stable in heavy zerg ? How full can you be with yourself ? Take a look at the forums already and see many people dipping below 20’s with those cpu’s.If you see that the op is recommending a cpu then why in hell are you even trying to consider to talk it down ? How can you even say its not a gaming cpu,when it clearly is ,and they are Made for gaming most if all,also made to be oc’d,i also play all current games lag free FX8120 – 4.8,and from what ive seen with a better fps then alot of intels,I honestly do not understand you people,you have no clue whatsoever and just judge by reading online,and sheeping along with other people giving misleading info.Its alot oftalk without ever backing Anything up ,everyone just has to believe your word for a fact,like most of you do.

An intel i5 with OC giving 45 fps stable in WvW is indeed an exageration ..or giving the benefit of doubt ..said person hasnt been in a major WvW battle and thus not seen how far fps will actually drop.

However a i5 OC’d to 4.5ghz+ will be able to stay above 30 fps if the GPU can also keep up.
A FX 8350 will not do this BUT it is the only AMD i ever recommend since it can come close.
If a person is running a AMD rig and wants to upgrade just the CPU and the motherboard is capable of fitting the FX 8350 ..it is the logical choice.

If however that person has the extra cash to also change the motherboard ..then the only real choice is to switch over to an Intel i5 and OC. Specialy if its for playing GW2 mainly, and other current games. The FX 8350 may well be a better choice if u do professional work frequently aswell as gaming ..ether that or an i7.

Ofcourse there will always be the so called ‘fanboys’ on both sides claiming this and that ..and tbh is all just hearsay.
We who help out on the tech forums frequently can only recommend and advise using facts,figures,benchmarks, and other proven information that is availabe.

SolarNova.1052:

An intel i5 with OC giving 45 fps stable in WvW is indeed an exageration ..or giving the benefit of doubt ..said person hasnt been in a major WvW battle and thus not seen how far fps will actually drop.

However a i5 OC’d to 4.5ghz+ will be able to stay above 30 fps if the GPU can also keep up.
A FX 8350 will not do this BUT it is the only AMD i ever recommend since it can come close.
If a person is running a AMD rig and wants to upgrade just the CPU and the motherboard is capable of fitting the FX 8350 ..it is the logical choice.

If however that person has the extra cash to also change the motherboard ..then the only real choice is to switch over to an Intel i5 and OC. Specialy if its for playing GW2 mainly, and other current games. The FX 8350 may well be a better choice if u do professional work frequently aswell as gaming ..ether that or an i7.

Ofcourse there will always be the so called ‘fanboys’ on both sides claiming this and that ..and tbh is all just hearsay.
We who help out on the tech forums frequently can only recommend and advise using facts,figures,benchmarks, and other proven information that is availabe.

Thanks for the level headed response, and everything that you said is very true. I have yet to OC my cpu, I may pump it up to 4.4 or so because I use the stock heatsink. I may order a different one, but haven’t decided that yet and I don’t feel like getting a new psu yet. The reason that I would even recommend buying the fx 8350 for a new build is for the reasons stated in 1) & 2). The fx 8350 will age better and have a longer useful life than an i5. i7’s are a different story, but you also pay a hefty price. I think into the future though as I don’t think I will have money every year to blow on upgrades, so I am going with the platform that will last me the longest. However, if your main focus is to play mmo’s I would go with an intel platform. Their single threaded performance crown wont even be in question until late 2013 or early 2014 when steamroller is released in the form of an fx 8550.

I have an I7 haswell and my fps dips to about 25 to 26 in major wvw zergs, so most of these are false claims. You shouldn’t have to OC a chip to get stable frames, this means it is poorly optimized. Unfortunately Anet has to do what NCsoft says so Wildstar is more likely receiving the funds they could use for Xpacs and optimization for their game. Guild Wars 2 will never get optimized correctly and probably never receive a good expansion due to Ncsoft’s greed in wanting to make money off a monthly fee based game that’s gonna sink. Technical forums have already been in heavy debates about the optimization of GW2 for a while now. Until Anet wants to admit it is poorly optimized and do something about it, no hardware will ever make it better. I refuse to play wvw and I have an I7 because anything under 50 frames is complete garbage.

The only AMD chip worth discussing is the FX8350. And its because its a 8core CPU. However, its per core performance is weaker then that of an i5 or i7 when talking single threaded operations. Combined Core performance is within 8%-12% if a respective i5 and i7 though, for multi-threading.

For any other application or game, outside of GW2 I would heavily recommend the FX8350. But strictly talking GW2, if you had a choice to build using the same budget of a FX8350 or a Intel build I would even suggest an i3 (Clocked at 3.2ghz+) over that FX8350.

The FX8350 has weak single threaded performance compared to Intel. Even an i3 will beat a FX8350 2:1 in most areas on this topic. For example, one of my systems that has a R7-260X teamed with a FX8350 would NEVER exceed 65FPS even on low settings at 1600×900. Popped in a i3-2120 (On a DELL motherboard!!) and the FPS would be between 85FPS and 110FPS on those same settings. And that was just PVE in a medium populated area (Queensdale).

In WvW Zergs, the lows are 18-20FPS in a fully queued Map. that FX8350 would NEVER touch 18FPS in the same maps (World Boss Train).

So when building for this game, that is what i have to go on and why I suggest going away from AMD for your CPU needs. Unless you can live with a 65FPS~ average and lows in the single digits.

konawolv.3971:

Hello all, I have been doing some searching around the internet for what people think about the fx 8350. It seems that all I can find is people asking whether or not to buy it as an upgrade over BD/Phenom. Most people that reply to the threads just jump bandwagon and say “get the i5’s as they are better for gaming.”

They aren’t wrong, to an extent…. If you drop the res to 1024×768, the 8350 will achieve about half the framerate of an i5-2500k for example in a large amount of titles. But, since most people don’t play at that res in this day and time…. It’s kind of redundant :/

At the current moment in time you can find an FX 8350 for $160 – $190 or an 3570k or 4670k for $130 – $190. So really it’s a toss up, both are good cpus and you really won’t go wrong with either, especially in current modern titles.

the 8350 isn’t a bad chip persay.

One can even say that the entire fx line is ahead of its time. AMD created a purely multi threaded cpu in an age of mainly single threaded software. I guess when the launched the FX line they thought that software development would catch up in a generation or two. They were right to an extent but wrong about the rate of change.

3 generations later and we are just beginning to see some truly multi threaded software, but wont come to market for ANOTHER few chip generations.

dodgycookies.4562:

the 8350 isn’t a bad chip persay.

One can even say that the entire fx line is ahead of its time. AMD created a purely multi threaded cpu in an age of mainly single threaded software. I guess when the launched the FX line they thought that software development would catch up in a generation or two. They were right to an extent but wrong about the rate of change.

3 generations later and we are just beginning to see some truly multi threaded software, but wont come to market for ANOTHER few chip generations.

yup,

and my! how the bleeding edge bleeds ;-)

the nice thing, this is putting more pressure on our App Developers to code in mind of multi-threading now. You can get a 8core CPU for 45% of the cost of a 4core i5. The price point on the hardware usually drives sales in software.

if the software cannot use the hardware well enough, consumers will go elsewhere for their application. And GW2 is no exception. Even I am not playing GW2 but 8-10 hours a month, on average, now. My time has shifted between Thief and TitanFall in between my project season at work :-)

i have a 8350 and a r9 290x and i hate it…. i LA i have around 20 fps and i ofthen get 30 fps while exploring in waw i put everything on low or med just to not lag that mutch. i dont know if this a problem in my pc or not, but the gpu should ba able to run this game maxed out. i red on another thred that said the r9 290x would be overkill for this game, but i am not so sure. anyways i hate this build i have now and am to poor to buy a new MB and a i5/i7. so get a intel prosessor, less problems with that one.

I used to play this game on an FX-8350 with a 7970 crossfire setup, but ran one card because it was worse with both.

I mean, yeah it was great for every game that was not an MMO (excluding ARMA 2) but for anything like Guild Wars 2, I just cannot recommend it. I’ve recommended i3 3225 processors over it.

Game just does not use what the CPU is designed for. I’ve since upgraded to an i7 4770K and very much love it.

My friend bought FX 8350 to replace i5 4670K … kinda weir but when he told me that his i5 was bad OC-er (4Ghz – max stable) and that FX 8350 is golden (5.6Ghz all 8 cores and 5.7 Ghz 1 core per module)… Voltage is under 1.53V while he cant get 5.9Ghz even with massive V…

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

My friend bought FX 8350 to replace i5 4670K … kinda weir but when he told me that his i5 was bad OC-er (4Ghz – max stable) and that FX 8350 is golden (5.6Ghz all 8 cores and 5.7 Ghz 1 core per module)… Voltage is under 1.53V while he cant get 5.9Ghz even with massive V…

This is just BS. The average user is not getting the 8350 to 5.6ghz. The average user doesn’t have a custom watercooler loop or a liquid nitrogen setup. After 4.6ghz the 8350 requires a massive vcore increase, air cooling and closed liquid coolers can’t keep it properly cooled. I have my 8350@ 4.8ghz with a h110.. And it gets to 68c+ if I run prime95 or intel burn test for too long. That is 7c above amd recommended temps. At 5.6ghz with 8 cores, even with a h110 the temps would be extraordinarily high.

he didnt bought new one… they switched FX 8350 gold vs i5 4670K bad PC-er and he is more happy with FX, but who cares – if you want best CPu for GW2 buy intel … or get CPU that you want to have….

Aza.2105:

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

My friend bought FX 8350 to replace i5 4670K … kinda weir but when he told me that his i5 was bad OC-er (4Ghz – max stable) and that FX 8350 is golden (5.6Ghz all 8 cores and 5.7 Ghz 1 core per module)… Voltage is under 1.53V while he cant get 5.9Ghz even with massive V…

This is just BS. The average user is not getting the 8350 to 5.6ghz. The average user doesn’t have a custom watercooler loop or a liquid nitrogen setup. After 4.6ghz the 8350 requires a massive vcore increase, air cooling and closed liquid coolers can’t keep it properly cooled. I have my 8350@ 4.8ghz with a h110.. And it gets to 68c+ if I run prime95 or intel burn test for too long. That is 7c above amd recommended temps. At 5.6ghz with 8 cores, even with a h110 the temps would be extraordinarily high.

I think we all call it, generally the average overclock for a 8350 under a DIY loop is about 4.9ghz, while the average overclock for an ivybridge i7 under a DIY loop is just a shade under 4.7ghz. Liquid cooling is not optional on the 8350 at the clock + volts he is talking, would be best off using a single stage phase change unit from LittleDevil or CoolerExpress.

So basically, I think we all already know :P Of course if it was true, I’d say his friend is just a kitten who bought a low-end board with a low amount of power phases and expected a miracle. Only time I’ve seen a chip not push past 4GHz….

xSwishInFerno.4287:

i have a 8350 and a r9 290x and i hate it…. i LA i have around 20 fps and i ofthen get 30 fps while exploring in waw i put everything on low or med just to not lag that mutch. i dont know if this a problem in my pc or not, but the gpu should ba able to run this game maxed out. i red on another thred that said the r9 290x would be overkill for this game, but i am not so sure. anyways i hate this build i have now and am to poor to buy a new MB and a i5/i7. so get a intel prosessor, less problems with that one.

you should be able to maintain 30-45FPS on average with that setup. You need to disable the 2nd core per module in the BIOS, Install the FX patch for Windows 7 (Win8 has it included at install) and Remove Core Parking. Then OC that CPU to 4.4Ghz-4.6Ghz. (Follow any of the many Online Guides to OC that CPU of yours)

That is what it takes to get ‘semi decent’ performance out of a FX8350 for this game.

Or, when/if you get some cash Upgrade your MB/CPU to a 1150 haswell i5-4000 series (3.2ghz+).

Edit – What I would do in your shoes, Resell that 290X. The cheapest New 290X is 560 on newegg. Knock 35% off that price and list yours locally or on ebay. Then use that Cash to upgrade your CPU to an Intel i5 (I’m seeing MB/CPU combos for 319-388 right now), and replace the GPU with a HD7790 or R7-260X. You will be far better off that way, then continuing with the FX8350 CPU.

Edit – Here is a Combo Example of what I’m talking about http://www.frys.com/product/8044794?site=sa:adpages%20page:P7_FRI%20date:032814

sobe.4157:

Aza.2105:

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

My friend bought FX 8350 to replace i5 4670K … kinda weir but when he told me that his i5 was bad OC-er (4Ghz – max stable) and that FX 8350 is golden (5.6Ghz all 8 cores and 5.7 Ghz 1 core per module)… Voltage is under 1.53V while he cant get 5.9Ghz even with massive V…

This is just BS. The average user is not getting the 8350 to 5.6ghz. The average user doesn’t have a custom watercooler loop or a liquid nitrogen setup. After 4.6ghz the 8350 requires a massive vcore increase, air cooling and closed liquid coolers can’t keep it properly cooled. I have my 8350@ 4.8ghz with a h110.. And it gets to 68c+ if I run prime95 or intel burn test for too long. That is 7c above amd recommended temps. At 5.6ghz with 8 cores, even with a h110 the temps would be extraordinarily high.

I think we all call it, generally the average overclock for a 8350 under a DIY loop is about 4.9ghz, while the average overclock for an ivybridge i7 under a DIY loop is just a shade under 4.7ghz. Liquid cooling is not optional on the 8350 at the clock + volts he is talking, would be best off using a single stage phase change unit from LittleDevil or CoolerExpress.

So basically, I think we all already know :P Of course if it was true, I’d say his friend is just a kitten who bought a low-end board with a low amount of power phases and expected a miracle. Only time I’ve seen a chip not push past 4GHz….

Actually, A buddy of mine got his Fx8350 to 5.5Ghz using refrigerant cooling. He tore apart an old Fridge he had in the garage for the Compressor, built custom Copper loops using the CPU Brick from a h100i, and passed R34a through the system.

5.5ghz, 58C’s using Prime95. Copper Lines were 4c or so.

However, that is totally an overkill project, just to prove that it can be done.

<.< I said DIY loop, referring to a watercooling loop, lol. On benching runs I can just fill up my dewar with liquid nitrogen or liquid helium and use the littledevil cpu pot + insulation/vaseline, but geez, going for a homemade setup like that is just too much work :P Congrats on his ingenuity and motivation though.

What I was getting at though was that that overclock being claimed obviously cannot run on air, and more than likely too much for a custom watercooling setup as well unless he has like 4+ monsta rads or similar cascaded with AP-15s at full bore. But, if he had the money for a $1,000+ watercooling setup, he wouldn’t be running an FX-8350.

sobe.4157:

<.< I said DIY loop, referring to a watercooling loop, lol. On benching runs I can just fill up my dewar with liquid nitrogen or liquid helium and use the littledevil cpu pot + insulation/vaseline, but geez, going for a homemade setup like that is just too much work :P Congrats on his ingenuity and motivation though.

What I was getting at though was that that overclock being claimed obviously cannot run on air, and more than likely too much for a custom watercooling setup as well unless he has like 4+ monsta rads or similar cascaded with AP-15s at full bore.

Oh I know! Just wanted to put my 2CP in too. Basically, that the FX8350 is a solid OC’er when compared to the Haswell chips. But requires some extreme Cooling (Custom stuff, NOT off the shelve crap) to get it there.

But my Buddies Fx8350, even at 5.5Ghz, is NOTHING compared to my i5-4670K :-) He’s still 18% behind in almost every benchmark when I’m Clocked at 4.6Ghz. When i push my i5 to 5.0ghz, he looses by close to 30%.

Yea, if memory serves, comparing the 8350 to the Ivy Bridge, specifically 3770k, with turbo turned off on the 3770k @ 3.5, the 8350 needs to reach speeds of 4.9/5.0 to be near the 3770k, with turbo turned on on the 3770k, the FX8350 has to reach speeds in the mid 5s to be near the 3770k core for core. Of course, that’s with the 3770k @ bare stock, no overclock applied.

I think there needs to be a sticky in the tech section :/ Something regarding the use of Intel vs AMD cpus. A single locked post giving information on the beneficial gains of an Intel chip in this game.

sobe.4157:

Yea, if memory serves, comparing the 8350 to the Ivy Bridge, specifically 3770k, with turbo turned off on the 3770k @ 3.5, the 8350 needs to reach speeds of 4.9/5.0 to be near the 3770k, with turbo turned on on the 3770k, the FX8350 has to reach speeds in the mid 5s to be near the 3770k core for core. Of course, that’s with the 3770k @ bare stock, no overclock applied.

I think there needs to be a sticky in the tech section :/ Something regarding the use of Intel vs AMD cpus. A single locked post giving information on the beneficial gains of an Intel chip in this game.

yea I agree, something that is completely about preferred hardware with ingame benchmarks to help people realize where their system should sit at.

and Anet needs to completely disregard the ‘recommended’ hardware. There is no ‘recommended’ hardware anymore. Games been out a year, and the hardware needed to push this game depends very much on what the end user wants to do in the game!

sobe.4157:

Yea, if memory serves, comparing the 8350 to the Ivy Bridge, specifically 3770k, with turbo turned off on the 3770k @ 3.5, the 8350 needs to reach speeds of 4.9/5.0 to be near the 3770k, with turbo turned on on the 3770k, the FX8350 has to reach speeds in the mid 5s to be near the 3770k core for core. Of course, that’s with the 3770k @ bare stock, no overclock applied.

I think there needs to be a sticky in the tech section :/ Something regarding the use of Intel vs AMD cpus. A single locked post giving information on the beneficial gains of an Intel chip in this game.

I only can go by cinebench r15 scores. My results show:

1. i7-3770k gets a 662 score
2. My Amd 8350@ stock scores a 644
3. Overclocked to 4.8ghz the 8350 scores a 746

That is with multi threading….for single core its a different story. The 3770k is 138 and my 8350@4.6ghz has a score of 108 even worse when its at stock speeds.

i-series procs will be faster in GW2 than a comparable clock speed AMD proc as a result of the i-series having better single thread power.

Cannot compare single core performance in cinebench ….
If you look at LoL – DX9 – use only 1 core and there is no big difference between AMD and Intel – as we all know AMD needs to be 1Ghz higher – so 3.8Ghz = 4.7-4.8Ghz

Right now i am doing build for my friend – cheapest version for GW2 and new games…
So he can take athlon x4 7*** or maybe i3 4130 and cheap MB + 4Gb Ram… he has already GPU 4650 but soon he will replace it with R7 250X or 7750 or R7 260….

So if anyone know users with athlon x4 pls i want to know performance

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

Cannot compare single core performance in cinebench ….
If you look at LoL – DX9 – use only 1 core and there is no big difference between AMD and Intel – as we all know AMD needs to be 1Ghz higher – so 3.8Ghz = 4.7-4.8Ghz

Right now i am doing build for my friend – cheapest version for GW2 and new games…
So he can take athlon x4 7*** or maybe i3 4130 and cheap MB + 4Gb Ram… he has already GPU 4650 but soon he will replace it with R7 250X or 7750 or R7 260….

So if anyone know users with athlon x4 pls i want to know performance

I have an Althon II 635 x4, 4GB of ram, teamed with a HD7750. 1600×900 GW2 on medium settings maxes at 45FPS out in the open PvE area. Cities and WvW where there are 30~ Players on the screen, 24FPS tops. Zergs 7-10FPS max.

its NOT worth it to go AMD. Period.

and your settings?
I mean i am getting much better FPS with FX 6300 only 4.5GHz
With may setting i see around 30-18 FPS in large WvW fights

can you try with lowest setting with character model limit- “LoW”

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

and your settings?
I mean i am getting much better FPS with FX 6300 only 4.5GHz
With may setting i see around 30-18 FPS in large WvW fights

can you try with lowest setting with character model limit- “LoW”

Screenshots. You need to start supplying screenshots if you want any good responses here.

My settings are always

reflections – sky/terrain
Sampling – Native
Shadows – Low
Shaders – medium
Post processing – low
Char Limit -low
disable high res textures
rest of settings are always High/ultra where applied.

I will record it for you ..
usually i get 50-60 Fps in LA even higher or sometimes lower

recorded at 1080P

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnpQIEKwyxA

recorded at 1080P

What are the specs of that system?
Looks like an 8core Box?
You should post CPU-Z + GPU-Z, or HWinfo data before the video starts.

That’s not your own video though and clearly not your pc specs… Why not make a video yourself and post it? Including your name in the intro/username + information. Something posted on youtube, on the date of your post

Don’t know who you are trying to fool with that vid when sirsquishy asked for proof, lol.

I did with Fx 4300 4.8Ghz – problem is that this picture doesnt show anything – you need to try both system
http://postimg.org/image/5fuyzcyn3/

like i said i will record it then i will show you, ok?
First i will record with i5 3570 3.0Ghz then FX 4300 4.5Ghz or maybe both at same time/place/server just different character

In that same scene I get around 98fps. Not bad, but definitely not close to i7 haswell. Its really hard to compare the two though. In comparison to haswell the fx is old, I’m only trying to be fair.

sirsquishy.8531:

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

Cannot compare single core performance in cinebench ….
If you look at LoL – DX9 – use only 1 core and there is no big difference between AMD and Intel – as we all know AMD needs to be 1Ghz higher – so 3.8Ghz = 4.7-4.8Ghz

Right now i am doing build for my friend – cheapest version for GW2 and new games…
So he can take athlon x4 7*** or maybe i3 4130 and cheap MB + 4Gb Ram… he has already GPU 4650 but soon he will replace it with R7 250X or 7750 or R7 260….

So if anyone know users with athlon x4 pls i want to know performance

I have an Althon II 635 x4, 4GB of ram, teamed with a HD7750. 1600×900 GW2 on medium settings maxes at 45FPS out in the open PvE area. Cities and WvW where there are 30~ Players on the screen, 24FPS tops. Zergs 7-10FPS max.

its NOT worth it to go AMD. Period.

All fine for you,on the other hand im playing the game with an amd FX8120 at 4.8 Maxed out at 100+ fps in the open,cities and wvw 60+ fps and the 60vs60 zerg fights i drop to 20 – 30.It is Worth it going amd,Period.