Generally sitting here, farming cursed shore for materials to use to our world vs world effort with stacks of karma sitting here doing nothing, it would be silly not to find another way to invest multiple currencies into WvW. its the same thing day by day, lets not upgrade a keep because gold is so limited within guild wars 2. now besides the fact that it being down to one player to purchase a keep upgrade, possibly even an upgrade to allow players to put a specific amount towards the upgrade and the upgrade not commence until more has been put in. I mean this is just another idea ontop of it but still karma feels useless right about now.