Guild Wars 2

RyuDragnier.9476:

Oh, you mean the class that can STEALTH and become untargetable? You have something better than stability, you have the power to undo targetting.

oh you mean the stealth on my #5 because i run p/d that can only be applied when directly at the mob (which is nearly impossible to do on demand due to the lasers) and have utilities that actually help me in this fight and don’t include stealth.
you mean the permastealth, that all thieves get for free? the stealth that allows me to still do damage to the mobs while being complete invulnerable?

RyuDragnier.9476:

Ehmry Bay Player
Anu Virga – Level 80 Ranger
Neo Asgard – Level 80 Guardian

play a thief on 80, then you have the right to make assumptions

and just for the record: as a thief in this fight you are 5% of the time in stealth max.
as i said, my only stealth is on #5 dagger and most of the time not possible to land

Gordok.2146:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/skypirates/PERSONAL-SPACE-what-needs-to-be-done/page/2#post2319380 has the info you’re looking for.

if you are referring to the spreading out tactic: i already said, that my problem was the achievement not recognizing, when the conditions are met.
if you are referring to the relogging: that’s how i ultimately got it.

Shpongle.6025:

if you step on it after it lands and it burns/electrifies you, it counts as a hit and u dont get ach

i know; didn’t get damaged at all. still no achievement

alternative: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Melandru%27s_Gaze

it’s as far as i know the only other staff that somewhat resembles the one you want

Glad i was of any help. As you could see it’s really easy once you get a group together that consists of people who actually know what they are doing.
Tomorrow evening (06/30) i will attempt some groups to help people get the personal space achievement. Since it was said by GMs that relogging is a legitimate strategy,
i will aim to form groups for beating Mai Trin and have everyone except myself relogg so they can get this little bugger.

Many thanks to:
Kitty Heian
M O A The Great
Norn Nitro
Kandro Flammenklaue
-who played all exceptionally well despite it being really late (02.40am) and being
an awesome group in general!

As an added bonus here are the screenshots of our victory:

If you still need it, you can add me (Warrior) to your group.
I have done every achievement in this dungeon and this particular one twice.
Ideal group comp would be 2 Guards 2 Warriors and 1 random, maybe necro for well of power and the ress signet or an engi.

Celeras.4980:

Figures. Best dungeon released since launch and scrubs are asking for it to be nerfed on account of them being terrible.

Don’t even think about touching this dungeon, A.Net. In fact, build on it to bring us more challenging content in the future!

QFT

Draknar.5748:

Don’t underestimate the power of the PUG. Even fantastic players need to PUG. I’ve had amazing PUG groups. This dungeon is no different. First PUG we got through all up to boss fight before Kiel bugged and we had to call it.

I wouldn’t PUG with anyone under level 80, personally, for this dungeon. Having good gear makes a difference. But I would 100% PUG it again and again. I PUG FoTM as well for levels up to 30 and rarely have an issue.

I can never say that there isn’t a chance that you will get a bad PUG, but don’t discount it based on a few bad experiences.

Basically this.
However, as this dungeon is slightly more difficult than the others, one
bad player is enough to svrew the whole group over, at least in the
Mai Trin fight as your group will try to ress the person and just get downed in the process.
Yes you could do the boss with 4 people but due to her teleportshot
not being avoidable you need the baddies as a meatshield.
Normally you can see if a PUG is good or not at the Frizz fight;
more than 2 wipes and I personally quit it. No need to waste anyones
time or money.

Day Trooper.3605:

Is this what the game has come to? Nobody wants to work towards achievements as they are intended to be earned?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/skypirates/Personal-space-IS-bugged/first#post2315567

yeah, because “earning” those achievements works as intended…

Yep, did it twice. Both on the first try, wasn’t hit by any kind of aoe during the barrage phase, still no achievement. First time was “legitimate” with running around and evading everything, second time was permastealth.
When will anet fix this buggy piece of crap?

Ps: any information on whether relogging before the first barrage and entering before Mai Trin dies still works? I’d hate doing it this way but on the other hand,
i’m just claiming what i rightfully earned.

this is definitely bugged. just had a run where it hit me during our first try.
i avoided every single aoe during the second fight and didn’t get the achievement.
anets ignorance in this matter is just unbelievable…

x per fection x.2096:

Don’t drop aoe on the boss and ze spiders will stop. Also wall of reflect never did stop the trees big Damage attack. It’s been a while but I think the animation is one of the hands goes up and holds up for a second then Slams down and you can wait a second and dodge or just dodge back and then dodge straight back to your starting position. (Double dodge if you can’t figure out timing, you will fully regen before he uses it again)

Watch for the trees attack next time your there. I’m pretty sure it only has 3 an only the one has to be dodged.

Edit. Was wrong about what animation it had been a while but as the guy below me said. Dodge after it shakes.

there seems to be a bug that leads to the spiders spawning (and aggroing!) regardless of type of damage. the part with wall of reflection was reffering to the spiders spit attack.
currently there is a “workaround” to beat this boss in his current broken state
which involves a lot of projectile reflection, since you cant avoid spiders from spawning and burning the boss down as fast as possible. maybe i should have made a screenshot to show how broken and ridiculous it is now. but thanks; your comment
kind of showed me, that this is just a bug and not intended.
hope anet fixes this asap as this is the last dungeon/path i need for dungeonmaster…

Rising Dusk.2408:

That’s the spider tree, right? If so, the only one that has to be dodged is when it shakes its leaves and drops the bombs on you. You basically watch it shake, wait 1 second, and dodge roll. You can tank the other hits pretty safely.

as i said the problem is not the tree but the (literally) countless spiders that spawn,
which can’t be prevented

Really nice to screw up this path so hard it is nearly impossible to finish with a normal pug.
I did arah p3 and Simin after the buff and before the nerf, meaning invulnerable and regen while stealthed. I did the new dungeon many times with pugs without
any kind of problem. I do love a challenge but this is just stupid.
Standing in a wall of reflection from a guardian doesn’t help; still got hit by
the insane amount of projectiles. Feedback worked but only has a duration of i think 10 seconds. So i need to stack 4 mesmers to kill the last boss? Game design!

Is there any information on whether this is a bug or simply ridiculously imbalanced
because from what i get the mechanic behind this boss is to engage him in
ranged combat to avoid the spiders from aggroing. At least that’s the strategy the wiki
suggests.

edit: for clarification – i am reffering to the forward/up path with the nightmare
tree and spiders as endboss

Well if anyone from EU still needs this path, i’m standing in front of the boss right now alone and waiting for someone to help

As was said, guards and mesmer would be preferred

dulfy.1493:

I believe for Unfriendly Skies you have to defeat the encounter within 15 minutes and on your very first try. If you wipe then the achievement bugs out or something. Was that the case here?

from what i get the time starts ticking when you start your first encounter.
first fight + wipe +second fight (win in under 15min but still more than 15minutes combined with first encounter) doesn’t get you the achievement.

source: happened to me, didn’t get it. next run, beat boss first try and got the achievement.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

My group tried this a couple time. none of us were able to get it even after avoiding all the AOE from Horrik. I guess you have to either avoid all the AOE from the cannon as well, or it is bugged.

my guess is that it’s bugged atm. avoiding all aoe during this fight is literally impossible for some classes

oh no, i have to use different utilities für mai trin to remove bleeds, that
are completely avoidable anyway! oh no, i need some situational awareness
for frizz to not get grilled by lasers! “plox nerf, so i can faceroll this dungeon”
is all i hear

Fatmancantrun.6451:

the end boss is virtually impossible with pugs, and i don’t see how new people to this game can get any of the achievements… its unfair the dungeon needs some radical changes, either give mai massive bleeds, shadowstep or a 1 hit kill move but not all 3. i spent 3 hours in a guild run on this dungeon on the end battle and we did not get it accomplished, this should not happen… the cannon firing lasts too long… please nerf the dungeon so thakittens doable with pugs or at least manageable with guild on ts…

oh and i did the dungeon exclusively with pugs. seems like a player issue if you can’t finish it :/

the pattern also only registers as right if no tears are held by players

daros.3407:

Crovax.7854:

daros.3407:

Crovax.7854:

Luthan.5236:

Stability is not unlimited(also not every class has it). We made it until the 3rd phase. Before then the pull was not that annoying but then it instantly killed and people trying to ress die too.

you could dodge? i mean there are only 2 golems out max. that’s not hard to keep track of. alternatively break line of sight with crates or use stunbreakers; those instantly cancel the knockdown you suffer when being pulled by golems

Dodge on box? Good luck….You have to stand on boxes to avoid lower laser. So you Can NOT dodge it or break line of side.

as i said, i did it with my thief, who has absolutely no stability and it was perfectly doable without being hit even once.
i’m sorry to say that but it’s purely a l2p issue

Well if low laser is near you, you jump on box to avoid it and than golem will pull you in front of it is LTP? No you are wrong. You just had luck nothing more.
OK there is challage for everyone who think it is easy and need no improvements: Log in game inv me to group and show me how easy for you it is.

well i guess i was wrong every single one of the six times i beat the boss without taking damage from lasers :S

daros.3407:

Crovax.7854:

Luthan.5236:

Stability is not unlimited(also not every class has it). We made it until the 3rd phase. Before then the pull was not that annoying but then it instantly killed and people trying to ress die too.

you could dodge? i mean there are only 2 golems out max. that’s not hard to keep track of. alternatively break line of sight with crates or use stunbreakers; those instantly cancel the knockdown you suffer when being pulled by golems

Dodge on box? Good luck….You have to stand on boxes to avoid lower laser. So you Can NOT dodge it or break line of side.

as i said, i did it with my thief, who has absolutely no stability and it was perfectly doable without being hit even once.
i’m sorry to say that but it’s purely a l2p issue

just finished the dungeon with my condition thief,
party consisted of me, engineer, ranger, ele and guard.
not the optimal setup for a “hard” pve dungeon and still doable.
it being too hard for you doesn’t mean it needs nerfing.
also the lasers always appear in the same places,
the low ones at 12’ and 6’ in phase one, the walls on 3’ and 9’ in phase 2 and in phase 3 the small lasers spawn in a 90° angle to the walls, died my first time there too and thought it was unfair, as the lasers deal damage before appearing but then
i just stepp up up my game…

Luthan.5236:

Stability is not unlimited(also not every class has it). We made it until the 3rd phase. Before then the pull was not that annoying but then it instantly killed and people trying to ress die too.

you could dodge? i mean there are only 2 golems out max. that’s not hard to keep track of. alternatively break line of sight with crates or use stunbreakers; those instantly cancel the knockdown you suffer when being pulled by golems

xCrusadentx.2784:

Its C. Dulfy says so. My friend got it that way too.

I did it that way too; didn’t get the achevement.
Your argument is invalid.

Zaxares.5419:

Thanks for the information, doenerfritze. From all accounts, this is a very unpredictable achievement, and it may be possibly bugged.

One possibility that comes to mind is that during the cannon barrage phases, only one of the circles is being fired by Horrik. Getting hit by the other circles doesn’t count. Of course, the trouble is that there’s no way to tell which circle belongs to Horrik and which doesn’t. :/

the fire shots are from horrik, the lightning ones from mai lin if i recall correctly

the achievement is not for avoiding horriks aoe after you defeated mai lin,
it’s also not for avoiding his aoe the entire fight, as i did both and didn’t get
the achievement. either it’s bugged or you really have to avoid
all aoe in the entire fight, including the 3 cannonen phases

i’d say B but good luck with that, if you don’t play a class that has some evade skills
on top of the dodgesrolls

just saw that the “speedkill” achievement is for under 15minutes lol
in that case the encounter is easy enough.
if what dulfy says is true and you get the other achievement
for not getting hit by aoe only during the “horrik only” phase then that’s even better.

i would gladly pay 800 gems for one of those pistols.
why don’t we get the weapons but only the ugly armor?

there was a bug where a player that d/c’ed couldn’t reenter the dungeon.
anet disabled the instance until this is resolved

dulfy.1493:

It is not an exploit, is it Kiel bugging out and forcing players to restart the dungeon.

oh and this

kinda agree, the animation is obvious and i have yet to die from a pull
but most classes only have 2 initial dodges. there are 4 golems so if you get unlucky
it’s quite likely to kill you, even when dodging 2 of these pulls.
the dungeon itself is challenging but mostly fun.
the last boss is worse, not because it is hard but just a tedium
and good luck getting that " didn’t get hit by aoe" achievement LOL

‘sniffsniff’ i smell sarcasm

they drop from the last boss of the new dungeon and are 1h versions of the
now 30minute nourishment items

oh well that might work well, i’ll try it out when i have a good group together;
just want that speedkill achievement

SnoodBeAR.5286:

I’ve done it. Loads of other players have done it. It’s not impossible so you can do it, it takes time is all

the op said, he already finished the dungeon and so did i.
this thread is about the general mechanics, not a whine about how we can’t finish it

Vahkris.6847:

Immobilize is your friend.

yeah, it’s not like she constantly teleports around or anything.
on top of that, she totally always stands right in the static fields;
it’s clearly a l2p issue!

to the op: yes this was exactly my impression as well.
the first boss was tough and the pulling aside, quite fun, even if i think the low barrier (which gives them invul) should be changed to something different, like the big one, that gives i think 25 stacks of might.
the fight is overly gimmicky and i just felt like fighting the engine, as you did too.
with a classic tank-hate fighting system this would have worked quite well i assume
but the fight, as it is, is just a joke

happened to me too, just teleport to the very first waypoint, then to the one before mai trin

panzer.6034:

My group stacked in a spot on the wall where the lasers couldnt hurt us and burned the golems down.

would you mind making a screenshot or just telling me where the spot is?
just finished the dungeon but i assume that makes the extra achievement a bit easier

actual crafted food is more desireable, as the buff is 30mins, not 20, as with the dragon bash food

only if it’s a minor trait.
not gonna sacrifice a major trait slot for this

always thought merlwyb was human, which would make sense, since squenix put
female roegadyns in the game a long time after she was introduced.

i played both ff14 and now gw2 and can’t find any similarities between that woman and the race from XIV

there’s a final content update on the 25th that concludes the story arch.
you will receive shoulder armor and a mini.
and yes, while the appeal of skins definitely is in the eye of the beholder,
it doesn’t negate the fact that you got something. the book was just an extra.
as i said. the achievement for the shattered wings was this updates meta, so they are
the “big” reward, like the sclerite karka shell and the fused gauntles were

you got a sweet backpack skin with the shattered holowings. what more do you want?

those were probably “self destructing after being read messages”.
happened to me too. i guess it is the result of a full mailbox

my thief, isoroth blacktide
love this outfit

edit: and one shot of his summer outfit #swag

no

//15char

don’t think of it as horse racing.
think of it more as a visualised sort of roulette with only 5 slots

you have to use the fireworks in fort marriner and on the beaches as well as the cliffs around town for this achievement, not the one use fireworks

Stark.1350:

You realize you only need 10/14 achievements? Fail less.

god forbid some people want to do all the achievements for completions sake,
not just for a skin

you get +1 for the achievement if your moa is among the first 3, so it’s a 60% chance.
got mine after 3 races with first, first, third

Lucyfer.9517:

Why should honest players step down for cheaters and exploiters? Why should anyone be blocked from something because others cant play fair? They know its a bug they keep abusing it, therefore they are “genuine cheaters and exploiters”. Also it’s shocking how insanely full of themselves they are, even when you talk to them and ask them to stop you get “i don’t care” or something similar as a reply. I guess to much time have passed since last wave of exploiters got punished. Anet should remind community there are rules and make example of them.

because every single one is an exploiter…
someone put down a tray of some bufffood in LA overflow and naturally i took some.
didn’t even realise it makes DB really unfair for others until a match a few minutes ago where someone “quite upset” pointed my out to this bug. as far as the owning goes;
i won most of my crab toss matches with 200-300 points so wrecking randoms didn’t really seem suspicious and i just figured the health regen was a passive ability like the dragon damage, and why would it not be? there are so many players nearly invincible that one might think this is part of the game. i agree it’s not fair but banning someone over a minigame? overreacting much?

Niyo.5920:

Crovax.7854:

if you want all 11 then l2p

That has nothing to do with “learn to play” and I really hate it that there are so many players who constantly say stupid sentences like this to other players.
There are people who can’t do JP, cause they have a bad internet-connection or aren’t good in jumping or are disabled. People who for example can only see with one eye or play with one hand… For them it brings nothing to constantly repeat “learn to play”, cause they can’t.

that’s why is told the op that there 11 samples in total
also, he said that he is just bad himself, no disability, be it technical or physical.
but i agree, if a person doesn’t specify why he/she can’t complete a certain aspect of
the game, i don’t automatically assume that they are bad as there can be a lot
of reasons

there are 11 samples. you only need 10.
if you want all 11 then l2p

then whats the point in replying?