Guild Wars 2

Vewen.8016:

Darkened.4076:

Wemil.7052:

Saruten you should try out t1 before express yourself:)

even if we arent in winning place everytime we bring our prime guilds left in sfr in we own really hard we paint the maps blue we litterly have fun even if we arent top 1 anymore we fight our hours we toke down a t3 tower with pure dps and we had loads of arrow carts poiting at us. it was a epic day and a epic time.

so yeh its a community forum but peoples coming writing posts havent really experienced the difference between t1 and t4.

many in t1 are very serious in WvW they rage quit if they lose a battle while in t4 peoples dont care if they lose a battle they continue even if they are wiped 100 times.

If you going to further fill this forum with propaganda, please at least write in correct English. A good poster or screenshot also goes a long way in helping a relentless cause.

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In all seriousness, I wish all the best to VOTF and the other guilds that have left their servers/tier. I hope you find what you are looking for and from a GM perspective, I totally understand why you are doing this.

// Beatrix

That lovely moment when they got no other arguments than to bash on someone’s grammar.

But good luck VOTF, I can understand what you want to do. It’s a true pity what happened in T1, I hold Anet as the true culprit in this, by breaking their promise that they would not allow free transfers after that period of time in the beginning of the game. But yeh, blaming won’t change our situation now.

I don’t consider reading dribble to be a ‘lovely moment.’ In fact, the subtext of my comment isn’t even aimed at someone’s language skills, rather the assumptions that were made in the original comment.

If I wanted to read about how ‘strong’ SFR are still and hear stories of T3 Keeps going down with ‘pure dps’, I would just visit their community website.

That being said, Drq I think its admirable what your doing, hopefully your be able to control some of your forum warriors that just seem to have a brain fart all over these forums every day. I also think its admirable that you are trying to rebuild yourselves. I hope it goes well and wish you luck.

Wemil.7052:

Saruten you should try out t1 before express yourself:)

even if we arent in winning place everytime we bring our prime guilds left in sfr in we own really hard we paint the maps blue we litterly have fun even if we arent top 1 anymore we fight our hours we toke down a t3 tower with pure dps and we had loads of arrow carts poiting at us. it was a epic day and a epic time.

so yeh its a community forum but peoples coming writing posts havent really experienced the difference between t1 and t4.

many in t1 are very serious in WvW they rage quit if they lose a battle while in t4 peoples dont care if they lose a battle they continue even if they are wiped 100 times.

If you going to further fill this forum with propaganda, please at least write in correct English. A good poster or screenshot also goes a long way in helping a relentless cause.

In all seriousness, I wish all the best to VOTF and the other guilds that have left their servers/tier. I hope you find what you are looking for and from a GM perspective, I totally understand why you are doing this.

// Beatrix

Qwixx.5923:

Offski.4897:

You don’t have a timezone advantage but a large group of your players get up at 6 am everyday to pvd for 8-10 hours. As has been said previously this is not against the rules, the issue is that Viz wins the match ups by this strategy.

You have not yet understood that:
1/ We are in holidays period.
2/ Both servers have abandoned, we have no resistance from them.

Pretty sure VS run the PvD tactic outside of holidays too, the karma troll.. I mean train is strong in you.

All jokes aside, I am really looking forward to the day that VS move away from this tactic and actually come for fights. Currently, the only guild I have encountered on VS that will fight (even when outnumbered) is WL. I have so much respect for that guild, because they are going against the norm of their server and setting the standard. The server should follow their example. It feels so rewarding to win these types of fights.

Ilirya Shan.5489:

Should we stop playing the game as it is intended by ANet (24/7 wvw) for your pretty eyes? Viz as always, much or less, played by night and SFR and Deso was not crying so much when they were winning. Blame ANet, blame the game or blame your bunch of coward players but do not blame Viz. De solved Times ago the problems you are encountering.

Did a VS player just call someone outside of their server a coward O.O

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Darkened.4076:

Thank you to SFR and VS for all the lootbags in EB today, was great fun commanding on that map for 14 hours. Some great fights all round!

Also a massive thank you to everyone that was following, we had a great night

// Beatrix Windrunner

Finally I know who the commander from Deso in EB is. Are proud and happy you say? Are you proud of double team with VZ? For hours you don’t even flip a VZ camp? Is this my imagination? No, VZ players know watt I’m talking about. It was epic for us yes, we never lost our keep, even when we get attacked from both sides, trebed from Bravos by Deso, and from Langour by VZ, we resisted at to consecutive attacks from VZ with golems, you are proud, you say, a big lol to you.
BTW are you the commander that Wemill put to cry a few weeks ago? Well he is back!!! Not played to many hours this week. Are you proud to let Anza in VZ hands for long time, and keep targeting SFR?

Yes I’m very, very proud to have played to all the guys from SFR during the weekend (guys sometimes I have to be hard with you because, we can’t do mistakes against VZ). Keep going “big” Deso commander, you only make us stronger.
I have nothing to say to the way VZ are playing, we have played like them when we are strong, for me the way they playing only show respect for us, they try to score points, that’s the name of the game, for us is a chance to all new commanders and players learn how to play, because he have a strong opponent we have to react according to that.

Please don’t hide behind problems, the only problem we are facing atm (butt all servers have it) is the skill delay, Anet must work in a solution to this.

We are not going to win this week again, but for me maybe I can have another “victory”, we need to stay one more week in T1, and after this another one, and so on. One day our guilds will come back, and we will be strong again.

I think you should get a reward for story-telling. There is no such thing as a 1v2 or 2v1, just opportunity of attack.

Would you mind enlightening me as to the ‘problems’ we are hiding behind? :S If your mad, save your anger for the battlefield, don’t become a glorified forum warrior, its old now…

Thank you to SFR and VS for all the lootbags in EB today, was great fun commanding on that map for 14 hours. Some great fights all round!

Also a massive thank you to everyone that was following, we had a great night

// Beatrix Windrunner

Sjaakie.1470:

Offski.4897:

Sjaakie.1470:

How does it feel to be in tier 1 and know that you get spanked with your pants on all the time and you only have a chance to win if one server (SFR) decides to stop playing? Being in tier 1 and maybe even win but knowing there is a much better server where guilds leave because of some weird A-net decisions which allowes you to win.

Hey mom, I won …. because others left.

Hey mom, I won ….. because loads of wvw guilds bandwagonned to our server.

And we are so proud of this that we can slag off the other servers and express on the forums multiple times how much better we are.

You lost all these weeks in a row from guilds who were around when they entered T1 (first time and second time). Now most of them left and you finaly got a chance (Viz that is). Deso never had a chance and probably never will have a chance, jumping on the vizuna train and pray that it is enough to stay in T1. Now that is what I call spirit, I agree, you got more than enough of it as a server.

Sjaakie, I think for anyone to assume they know a group of people they haven’t met or claim to know the future, is either an individual lacking a large amount of common sense or has taken too much of something…

I want to to do a shout out to everyone on Desolation (Guilds/PUGs/Everyone), great job this week everyone!

Also a special shout out to IRON, Eternal IRON, Bull and Coin for pulling an all night shift Wednesday to pull infront of SFR. Awesome job guys!

Well done to VoTF in their GvG!

// Beatrix Windrunner

Aneu.1748:

Pryda.8257:

We could actually play the game 6 months ago, with culling yes but that was a lot better than version 2 of culling and this annoying lag since last patch.

That source for your quote?

I am also interested to see the source as well.

Jeknar.6184:

Solution against skill lag: Get out of stacked top tier servers…

I don’t believe this to be solution. Thank you for your input though.

Its in all boarder-lands and Eternal. I am currently talking about tier 1. If we could please avoid this thread becoming a ‘complaining’ thread and focus on if anyone has found some solutions.

I think the patch addressed alot of issues and brought life back into World vs World, so I dont share your view Akunadin I’m afraid.

I sure future badge spending options will come in the future, but that isn’t the focus of the thread.

Liquid.9672:

Sadly, the only solution available right now is to physically avoid zergs. Players are bunch up more than ever these days and when one ball clashes with another the servers can’t process all the incoming client information real time.

I’m about as far from a software or hardware engineer as it gets, so I’ll refrain from commenting on how to fix it, other than the obvious that something needs to change so all the information from these clustered groups can be processed real time.

I don’t think ‘Zerging’ should be completely blamed or honed in on as the problem. Some World vs World guilds are in excess of 40/50+ people alone, are we therefore saying that a max sized World vs World group or guild should be 25 people?

The whole idea of World vs World was to have large scale battles. I love both squad and zerg play. Both have there ups and downs. But to solely blame this, is unfair.

Also just ‘avoiding’ it doesn’t work, since it will lag the map out anyway.

Hi all,

I am well aware that there have been topics about this before. However, I was wondering if anyone had come up with a solution/solutions to help ‘control’ the skill lag when it occurs?

I have read about the server side issue, so it would be great if a Arenanet representative could give the community an insight on how/when/if they plan to fix this?

Right now, I think this is the biggest problem in World vs World. The recent patch was brilliant, but it is impossible to play at times and therefore negates the content in-front of us. If anyone has found anything that works, it would be great to know, since until we get an answer on what is happening about it, we have to work with what we have.

(P.S If something has been posted by a moderator before about plans to change skill lag, I apologize)

If you cannot create separate reset times for the different server groups, then you should compromise and reset it earlier for both sides. Currently what you are doing is alienating one half of your player base, which is totally unfair to these people. I wouldn’t have thought that this is in any companies interest to do?

For alot of my players it is impossible for them to stay up because they are already GMT+1/2 already (and that was before daylight savings). 11 or even 12 GMT again would be doable for alot more people, and I don’t think would hamper NA that much.

All I hear is good tactics and a care for my squad. I know, I like my name too!

// Beatrix Windrunner

Luffy.9365:

Darkened.4076:

To [VcY]. I don’t understand why you are so clearly angered by us. In the past I have had alot of respect for the guild. I thought there were some brilliant fights and tactics displayed tonight by both servers on SFR boarder lands. Having commanded for over 7 hours, I know that it wasn’t ‘6’ VcY; you were at squad size, and yes, you did also have some additional pugs as you have mentioned. But to be honest, I couldn’t care less about the size if it provides a good enjoyable fight. It was great to kite you around the map for 20 minutes whilst IRON capped a T3 garrison from you (I thought tactics were part of World vs World?) and it was great to wipe you at Foghaven when we were slightly outmanned. However, I’m sure you had the same feeling when you wiped us at Ruins because VS hit us from behind as we engaged you (which is typical of them, but tatical none the less), we still enjoyed the fight and learned alot from it.

At the end of the day, none of this matters. Being a good sportsman is important, and of course we will fight you in a guild vs guild match up. I’m not saying were win against you, were still building ourselves and people are learning, but hell, were give it our best shot and we learn fast. I would organize it all through Wrex, she is better at that than me.

Also I think people on Desolation this week have done an awesome job!

// Beatrix Windrunner

So you are making a post that you outplayed us and you got a fort ,you wiped us clean and clear with same numbers and the only time that we wiped you….was when we double team you with VZ…….Then you dont understand why some ppl may be “angered” with you…..
I can see many stories about sfr running when we face Deso same numbers etc.
Guilds like us, RG ,ZDs and many more ,have offered weeks ago GvG action . Iron has answered that they are not ready yet(we respect that) ,but the offer is in general, to all guilds that they would like to try a clean battle with same numbers ,like you Coin.
We like to fight ,thats why we want to GvG , also – i have said it again in past – i would like from ppl that they jump in with comments, “we wipe you same numbers” or “you run away from us same numbers” etc……to bring a GvG offer @ the end of the message.
Thank you

I’m sorry, but I don’t appreciate people twisting my words to form their own arguments. It clearly states in the original post that we wiped you once, and that you wiped us once, that was fact. I even stated in the original post that none of that even matters, we appreciated it greatly and we learned alot from it. I DID NOT, at any point refer to you ‘teaming up with VS.’ I said ‘they hit as from behind’ meaning, because we were both fighting near their keep, they hit the first opponent, which was us. I can see how you might misconstrue that, believe me we wanted to fight SFR at that point alone, hence my comment about VS. It seems to me that alot of people in this forum have been ‘poisoned’ by particular recurring ‘sayings.’ We are not those people.

Sorry if your confused or deluded in anyway, but none of my comments attacked you or others in anyway (unlike some of your guilds original comments did to us), they merely stated facts in a polite manner.

As I said before, I honestly don’t care for all of the ‘banter.’ We look forward to the Guild vs Guild with you at a appropriate time to the community and ourselves/yourselves. Its important to recognize that Guild vs Guild is exactly what it states. It doesn’t make you the best World vs World guild. World vs World is not a controllable environment.

// Beatrix Windrunner

P.S That’s great that RG are offering GVG, but we are no where near ready for them yet. I have a great deal of respect for what they do and who they are. Would also like to add that I am grateful that an RG D/D ele, helped one of our ele’s. Very much appreciated.

To [VcY]. I don’t understand why you are so clearly angered by us. In the past I have had alot of respect for the guild. I thought there were some brilliant fights and tactics displayed tonight by both servers on SFR boarder lands. Having commanded for over 7 hours, I know that it wasn’t ‘6’ VcY; you were at squad size, and yes, you did also have some additional pugs as you have mentioned. But to be honest, I couldn’t care less about the size if it provides a good enjoyable fight. It was great to kite you around the map for 20 minutes whilst IRON capped a T3 garrison from you (I thought tactics were part of World vs World?) and it was great to wipe you at Foghaven when we were slightly outmanned. However, I’m sure you had the same feeling when you wiped us at Ruins because VS hit us from behind as we engaged you (which is typical of them, but tatical none the less), we still enjoyed the fight and learned alot from it.

At the end of the day, none of this matters. Being a good sportsman is important, and of course we will fight you in a guild vs guild match up. I’m not saying were win against you, were still building ourselves and people are learning, but hell, were give it our best shot and we learn fast. I would organize it all through Wrex, she is better at that than me.

Also I think people on Desolation this week have done an awesome job!

// Beatrix Windrunner