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Ranger DPS in Dungeons

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Oh, and you are in a position to judge this? How?

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How about bosses with AoE, your frost spirit is as good as dead while banners still stand in the ground, also pet is very difficult to keep alive (though its possible)

As I said, to deal good dps with ranger is just a way to situational, at CoE you’ll probably loose your endurance damage boost, frost spirit and pet.

If they boost spirits and make pet dodge when master dodges ranger maybe become more useful one day.
(https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Suggestion-on-spirits)

And that’s situations where the theory is pretty much useless.

Frost spirit has quite some range, you dont have to plunk it down just below boss as I see most people doing.

Pets arent quite as difficult to keep alive, it just takes some getting used to the concept of having a part of your character you have to watch out too and that isnt always at your side.
As I said before: switch your pet when its getting low on health and no heal is ready.
The only part of this game where I dont care if my pet dies or not because it’s dead most of the time anyway is maw with jade maw targetting pet. And even then Im rather switching it before it gets killed when possible.

What you are describing is exactly what I see 90% of all rangers doing. It’s sad, but true that most rangers are just bad at playing ranger and should play warrior. The same with eles btw.

But that doesnt mean ranger as a class is bad. Or cant do dps. It just means you havent played with a really good ranger yet.

Until about 4 months ago I was in a guild with a really good necro and ranger. Always did my dungeon runs with them. Both tried switching to warrior because it became fotm, and we realized, it doesnt make a big difference at all. They played their warriors good also, but got bored by it.
With 2/3 warrior, 1 guardian, 1 mesmer we had to play differently as a group, same as we had to play differently with 1 necro, 1 ranger, 1 guardian, 1 mesmer and X (most of the time staff ele btw). Daily fractal runs didnt take us any longer with non-fotm setup, we didnt die more often with warrior setup. The only difference was both new warriors complaining in voice chat about how bored they are.

So no, having actually done lots of dungeon runs with a well played ranger, necro and staff ele, I dont agree with any of those pseudo-tests posted here trying to make ranger look bad.
My test shows that raw dps is the same. Warrior has hb, ranger has lb2+5. Warrior has banner, ranger has spotter+frost spirit, and so on… we can keep on comparing things, you can keep on pointing out flaws, I can keep on telling you how to circumvent those, and this can go on and on for days/weeks.

Result would still be the same… most rangers just simply cant play their class to maximize output, same btw with any other class.

So yes, you are right:
bad ranger dps < bad warrior dps

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In three simple words:
No perfect world.

And sorry, but I wont argue with you about the use of other weapons for your build. You want to run your build, thats fine. Others want to run their build, and thats fine too. Thats the point here. You dont want to have those running NOT your build not in your group, also fine. Nobody forces you to do that. Just as nobody should be forced to run your builds or having to defend their builds to you.

Cant you accept that there are other opinions that arent necessarily wrong just because they dont fit your view of how a group should work?

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Sorry to be late to the party,
Such staff hatred, while its pitiful auto attack makes me wanna stab a kitten, I find the heals on 2 and the end of empowered to be quite useful in full zerker groups.

Actually the heal on 2 is trash and empowered is useless when you have warriors spamming FGJ and the mesmer signeting them. 24 stacks of might and four players running a class that deals a ton of damage? Yes please.

And there are no other groups, but groups with guardian, warriors and mesmer out there, no sir, there are not. Such a thing cannot be possible, at all !

Well, for you that’s how it is, perhaps, dont know you. But for the majority of us, we make do with what we get and adjust accordingly, therefore always have a staff with us in inventory and switching it in when necessary.

Maybe for YOU it isn’t necessary at any given moment because you like to run only with guardian/warrior/mesmer setup, and that’s fine. But for YOU to conclude that this means staff is a reason for kicking and a sign for a really bad player or even leecher, that’s just hilarious.

colesy is saying that all guardian weapons are useless, amazing.

Nope, GS and sword+focus are good. Hammer can be good for symbol too. Learn to read.

Mace, sword, focus, shield… all amazing weapons. Guardian is one of the only two classes with all above-water weapons being good and usable.

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Btw, I think it rather funny how you keep calling yourself “elitists” in a pseudo-derogatory way. Ive played with elitists, people trying to get the last % out of everything by using the optimum setup. Strangely they never had the need to point that one out :/ And even more strange, they were always open for new possibilities… trying them out, discarding them or owning them.

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How are people teaming up?

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gw2lfg.com

You can join same instance with people from different servers, as long as its the same region (NA or Europe for example).

Ranger DPS in Dungeons

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So, because I was anticipating just that waxpax, I spend some time in swamp fractal, lvl16, killing lvl81 fireflies and mosquitos and getting some numbers together.

Sword skill 1 chain:
1. (1/2s) -> about 1.7k (2.7k)
2. (1/4s) -> about 1.7k (2.7k)
3. (3/4s) -> about 2.3k (3.3k)

GS skill 1 chain:
1. (1/2s) -> about 1.9k (2.9k)
2. (1/2s) -> about 1.9k (2.9k)
3. (3/4s) -> about 2.5k (3.5k)

Jaguar hits for about 1k every hit I make… thats the number in brackets.

Gear:
head, hands, 1x ring -> ppt
shoulder, torso, feet, leggins, backpiece, weapons -> zerker
2x accessory, amulett, 1x ring ->cavalier
Upgrades: ruby orbs

Stats:
Power: 2,468
Attack: 3,568
Crit-chance: 48%
Crit-dmg: 96%

As you can see, its no full zerker set Im running, mainly because Im only getting to play ranger in wvw. So there is room for improvement.

Also, this was ONLY skill 1 of melee weapons I use, without warhorn boons. Im not in the mood for more extensive testing, overall dmg using all available utilities and my above mentioned rotation is quite a bit higher.

Just so you get the picture: maul (GS 2) has 1,493 dmg saying in tooltip, whereas GS 1 states 548 on first two attacks. Everything else I leave up to your imagination.

Oh and btw, I made sure to not have more than 10 vuln stacked on mobs at any of those numbers I used to make those average numbers above, and no might stacks except for last in sword chain, there its unavoidable.
So if you compare it to warrior, compare it without any FGJ or GS mightstacking and only with OMM.

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Warrior, lvl16 fractal, swamp, same mobs:
axe 1 chain:
1. (1/4s) -> 1.4k
2. -> 2x 1.3k
3. (1 1/2s) -> 2x 1.4k + 1x 3.1k

Stats:
Power: 2,376
Attack: 3,424
Crit-chance: 52%
Crit-dmg: 93%

Tests were done with adrenaline full and GM trait strength. No FGJ, same bloodlust sigil as ranger. OMM on target for about same vuln stacks.

You can all calculate for yourself, I can tell you from testing those two classes after each other, they killed those poor fireflies and mosquitos in about the same time, warrior felt slower, but that could just be because I didnt have to watch out for pet numbers.

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Honestly, I dont care if you think your warrior is better, kills faster or whatever. I actually have both, a warrior and a ranger, I play both the same aggressive way with lots of background information and theorycrafting making me a darn good player. I think both are good damage dealer, ranger brings a bit more survival to group, warrior a bit more offensive utilities.
Ranger definitely is more difficult to play, a bit like playing the piano. You have to get a feeling for when to switch weapons, when to use this, when to use pet skills, when to switch out pet and so on. It’s more multi-dimensional, whereas warrior is pretty much straightforward.
Meaning: bad player playing warrior can still do nice dmg, bad player playing ranger makes all ranger look really really bad.

Also using the correct rotation and using all possible synergies makes a lot of a difference as a ranger. Not so much as a warrior in my experience.

That’s as far as Im willing to go to “proof” anything at all. For any more details, please just level your own ranger and do some testing on your own. Or just keep on saying “rangers are BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD”.

FYI, warrior was equipped to about match ranger in stats. Couldnt get both any closer with ranger only having one armor set. And one last thing, to get my average numbers I took 10 attacks and divided by 10. Not up for any empiric testing, as said above, if you think you can do it better… do it better. Im not keeping anyone from trying.

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Ranger DPS in Dungeons

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Are you serious? My main isnt a ranger but I should just waste about 10-20g so you can get to compare numbers? O_o

How about you level your ranger and then equip it and test it. Its about as ridiculous as you asking someone else to do it…..

Isn't toughness supposed to add threat

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In my experience this is about the priority list for mob aggro:
1. proximity
2. dps
3. tou
4. everything else

With proximity being first and then a long time nothing… after that tou, vit and dps are about the same with dps immo counting slightly more towards gaining aggro.

If you want to get mob to not attack you anymore, most of the time getting to max range while kiting mob through your group will do the trick. Some mobs are just weird and they stick to one the whole fight… mossman used to do that a lot.

And no, its not common practice, you just had bad luck. Im running lvl28/38/48 about once every other day and most of the time Im cursing zerker geared warriors/eles dieing all the time. Not saying they wouldnt die less with pvt… just saying it’s the risk we take finding groups via gw2lfg and not guild.

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Now how about you take 1 guardian, 4 baby warriors and do the same?

Then we at least know which class scales better………

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Actually, I just dont agree with people posting screenshots showing only minimal information. I never even said anything about people running mf, see, I make a distinction there with someone just using mf sigil and someone equipped fully in mf gear.

All I saw on your screenshot was a guardian using signets and scepter/staff, having the bad taste to use mf sigil. It doesnt even show what mf sigil ^^ My guess would be the rare one, because he doesnt use omnom-bars. Which rather doesnt point towards someone running full mf gear, now does it? Also there’s no mention of anything else, like AP or he died when getting aggro, or he stayed back all the time, only spamming staff 1+2 for getting loot.

So excuse me for not jumping on your bash-train and pointing out how ridiculous it is to condemn someone or something by posting some screenshot totally out of any context or how ridiculous it is to try to press everybody into using THE build and THE class that is considered fotm.

You made your opinion clear and now everything else is irrelevant? ^^ Now that I find rather intrigueing.

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Ranger DPS in Dungeons

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You are not really comparing a mid-range weapon with a close-range weapon there, are you?

Also, raw stats arent everything

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I rather think, the problem here is, that you dont really know what arguing is. Im not arguing about my observations of your behaviour, because they are just that, observations.

I argued about people saying scepter/staff is bad all the time, pointing out that there are some situations where both can be useful. But I didnt see you respond to any of those arguments, so I kind off thought it was closed.

What you are doing is: taking my observations, and trying to get me to argue about them. Now why would I do that? O_O

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Just remembered: another behaviour I leave a group for is constant bickering of one or more. Or group decides on a certain tactic and then someone wants to press his tactic and just does what he likes, thereby getting everybody killed, sometimes even crowing afterwards “told you, doesnt work”.

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What argument? ^^ Im not arguing with you, Im just responding to your posts. Arguing would be me saying a, you saying b, we sometime in the future get to the conclusion that c is about the right way to go.

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Ranger DPS in Dungeons

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Just as something to try out for those interested:
gear: zerker, obviously
build: 30/30/5/X
pets: I switch between drake, feline, bear most of the time, sometimes spider for interrupt+range, but rather not that often, maybe once a month ;p
utility skills: quickness, lifereg, frost spirit / passive runspeed / search & rescue
elite skill: spirit or rampage
weapons: longbow + GS/sword+warhorn
rotation: warhorn 4+5 or GS 3+5+2 to close gap, cast frost spirit -> switch to longbow, longbow 3 + 2 + quickness (about at the same time as lb 2), longbow 5, switch back and so on….
Not to forget, pet skill when ready/necessary. Switch pet when it gets low on health or you need other pet skills. Just dont wait til pet completely dead, it’s wasting good dps.

Arah and P3

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Did you try to open your own group? I never have any problems filling up my groups for arah p1-4. But then, Im not waiting for someone else to open lfg.

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And why shouldnt you kick him? Or where does it state – in this thread – that you should be forced to endure him? I admit, this thread has gone off the rails in about the 3rd post? or something like that, with people sprouting wide generalizations about weapons availabe to guardians. But it says nowhere: you have to play with them or even you have to teach them.

When Im getting out my scepter at maw, trying to kill friendlies… Im always prepared for a kick. Same with me answering sarcastically to useless instructions. And no, I usually dont open a dungeon / instance because I tend to have one dc every few hours, most of the time at worst possible moment. And even after coming back after dc, Im prepared for not having a group anymore, even though it usually takes me less than a minute to re-join.

So what kind of behaviour makes me kick somebody? Well, no behaviour because I dont kick, I leave. What behaviour makes me anticipate a kick? Being sarcastic, annoying, tk, afk for a long time. What behaviour I dont really think deserves a kick: unconventional builds, if lfg wasnt for some specific build, newbish behaviour (also: only if lfg wasnt specifically for an experienced player).

/edit:
Swiftpaw, your “bad guy” attitude reminds me a lot of those hip hop “singing” guys talking about how bad everything was in their “ghetto” while still getting their clothes washed by their mums ^^. Think about it You might call yourself a scumbag, Im just calling you a hypocrite.

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Sorry, but having dungeon master title nowadays by no means says you have experience.

With only bare minimum of facts, YOU tend to see the worst, and I tend to see someone in need of some improvement. Did you take the time to point him to some nice group-oriented builds here or on guru? Or what is it you did with him? After all, that`s what this topic is about. Not a competition about who had to endure the worst random player ever.

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I hate it when people dont get the point

My post is about YOU posting a screenshot of some poor random guy, maybe about 1 month into this game, and saying “SEE what a failure this guy is”. Pointless. Cruel.
Reminds me a lot off people getting put in stocks for swearing. Didnt really work then either, now did it?

Btw, I noticed he at least used all his virtues, which is more than I can say about most guardians I pug with.

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I like using scepter or staff 2 in maw, it’s the closest thing to tk in this game. And it takes a lot of skill to actually hit someone with it…

YES, LETS CRUCIFY everybody using mf sigil, wearing scepter or staff (guardian OR ele), signets (any class), condition based builds, ranger, pets, rifle, longbow…. the list is endless, just to shorten it:
Lets crucify everybody not playing a mesmer, guardian, warrior geared with zerker and using certain hyped builds. KK?!

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Too easy and way too BORING

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thread-necromancy :o have to participate !

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Nobody forces anyone to group with someone else. And going on in this thread how a certain weapon is bad and everyone even OWNING one is worse, well… that’s just childish.

There are without a doubt certain situations where equipping a staff can be really useful, like if your group doesnt have a warrior (OHMYGOSH I KNOW…) or a mesmer.

In a perfect world, with perfect players, as a guardian… you wont need staff. You can take your GS or Hammer and get all those nice pretty numbers. But… world isnt perfect. So saying “Ill kick any guardian that has equipped staff even ONCE in his or her short life”… it’s kind off close-minded.

As a side note: best players I ever played with were open for new setups, new theories, without any “owwwww…. are you … that doesnt work AT ALL” attitude. Actually, one of them I think was a robot… he only ever kept saying “inc” and “add”… well, nvm.

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Ha, I got kicked from a grp once because when they started to really annoy me with things like “do this, do that” (you know, the kind of “good advice” pr0 players like to give, totally useless/senseless… just so they can feel pr0… put up wall there, use shield now – open your eyes id… its already there…) and I answered sarcastically, “no I will use staff at shaman fractal endboss -.-”
(Was not really unhappy about it :> )

Because, lets face it, staff is the least usable weapon in pve for guardian. Line of Warding? Ring of Warding → hammer, and hammer has better skills than staff.
The only place I like to use Staff is in magg’s bombroom.

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I dont mind guardians using scepter, and you dont have to stay in mai’s melee range to keep her from porting, just stay together and stay below 900ft.

Btw… PUG = pick-up group = a group of people that dont usually play together and found themselves using whatever lfg tool available, be it chat, website, ingame-lfg option or whatever.

4 guys from same guild and one random does not a PUG make, we discussed that one over the course of 3 mmos (DAOC, Aion, WAR) extensively.

As to behaviour… just an example… was running p4 Arah with 3 from one guild, one random and me, instance owner. Guildies did some huge mistages, we wiped a lot, Simin was horror (AFTER nerf……) and after we finally did it…. guildmembers kicked the other random because he was a “baddie” (quote). I left. Got flamed hard for it, had to block over 5 accounts ^^

Both hands arent enough to count all those times I was kicked at maw from guildgroups. My policy with guildgrps is to stay wary and either try to open instance or leave as soon as there are any kind of signs of “pr0” behaviour.

So you see, us “randoms” are also having our problems with guildgroups. Still, whoever has another one to agree, can kick, that’s the mechanic. Use it if you think you have to. Dont use it (and suffer) if you think you dont have to.

I have btw a list of guilds in a txt file on my desktop whose members kicked me without a reason. Another list with accountnames of players that where just… you know… those who think they are REALLY pro and then shout for condition removal as a guardian (still havent gotten over that one ^^).
That’s another way to handle this.

Don't add AR in Fractals

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Hey Anet?!, do it , DO IT!!!! ad that in fractal, you all know its good.

Srsly if you dont want a challenge at all…. why you dont just read a book, take a walk outside, or just watch TV?
This thing is no Hardmode so just learn it -.-

Hey Reading a book or taking a walk can ALSO be a challenge, depending on circumstances

Chopps, I actually enjoy having a ranger in grp especially for boss fight. Pet rezz, nature spirit, bear pet… all nice things to have if used correctly. Stun, snare, also nice.

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AR dungeon my opinion

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A boss who can shadow step every 5 seconds or so and then deliver at least 10k burst dmg

This is the only problem with this dungeon, and dont forget you cant dodge it

Hu? You can dodge it, you can block it, and she can miss (blindness).

dungeon professions

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SRY! i didnt know people would argue about this. im newish

Sorry, but I dont quite get why you openend this thread if you didnt want people to discuss the topic?

My plea to everybody running fractals....

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Mad asura fractal:

PLEASE dont attack harpys from below. Please, please, please. You cause them to become invulnerable.

And no, moving on to next harpy because that first one obviously is bugged is not – I repeat IS NOT – a good idea.

Just move together – as a group – up those steps, killing one harpy after the other, using reflect, cc and blind to avoid getting kicked. If someone – or even all – get kicked down, just hop down and gather again.
Its not that hard, I think

gw2lfg come on!

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You might not have something resembling the holy trinity in gw2 – which I think is debatable, it just isnt THE holy trinity we know from past mmos – but you still have noobs ^^. So any concept like wow queue wont work well.

And can you post a source colesy? Because I didnt see anything like that either. Also, with making gw2lfg sticky I really got the impression that that’s it from anet.

dungeon professions

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…very viable in different situations…

Correct.

Dungeon farming = not different situations.

There are some classes that are kinda must have because they make it a lot easier (guardian, warrior, mesmer). Other spots are up for grabs.

Btw has every player the right to build his or her group like they want. You dont get a spot in other groups? Open your own.

FOTM got kicked, for no particular reason

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There’s a report function ingame, and you can report via support on website.

[Guide] WvW/PvE new AH Guardian build

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Running same build with soldier runes. 6th bonus stacks with pure of voice, will try lyssa runes next ;p

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What has Aetherblade Retreat taught you

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Did a lot of AR runs yesterday with:
- Guardian (knight+zerker/shouts)
- Necro (zerker/wells)
- Thief (zerker/s+d & p+p)
- Mesmer (zerker/inspiration)
- Engineer (zerker/ft+eg)
- Ranger (zerker/GS+LB)
- Ele (zerker/fire+water)
- Warrior (zerker/GS)

The only class I really did die – often – is ele because I never played staff before. That wasnt fun. Every other class I was usually last woman standing, be it laser room or mai or strikers. No guild-grp, only grps I found on gw2lfg.

Sure, as 0815 guardian with only retreat, wall+shield on utiltybar you will die. Often. And about 99% of all guardians I went in with kept on putting up shield and wall, a lot. They werent able to grasp the concept of using tome of courage to un-stack mai. And they went in a group of strikers without using stability.

Zerker gear just isnt as forgiving for player-mistakes.

My absolute highlight was this one guardian that put up wall and shield all during boss fight between horrik and field. I mean, okay… even if I hadnt read the description of mai’s shield before, I would have stopped using both skills as soon as I realized it isnt working one bit.
Btw, he was someone who kicked another thief from grp because that thief used zerker build.

My conclusion: Zerker gear still > all. Player-skill still very important with a lot of the player community still not grasping basic things. Cleric-geared guardians are just plain useless. Tome of Courage and stability saves the day.

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Ohhhhh… forgot this cute guardian yelling at warrior for not removing conditions of group. I was laughing so hard about that one ^^

Personal Space: what needs to be done?

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You have to keep in mind that:
a) circle is slightly bigger than it’s shown, so standing between 3 circles and hoping you wont get hit will most likely not work
b) getting hit by cannon ball also counts
c) counter doesnt seem to reset when resetting encounter
d) getting burned by walking/dodging inside already there aoe field also counts.

Got my achievement with guardian, also tanking mai inside fields… didnt even dodge fire fields when mai was active because I was just too lazy.
During barrage phase I always went to where horrik didnt point his cannon. That might work for all of you playing without vent/ts/skype/mumble or with people new to this dungeon/unable to read.

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just talk to ellen

What The Hell Am I Doing Wrong?

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DanH because most people, like you I guess, cant play a thief.

What The Hell Am I Doing Wrong?

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Just remembering this guardian chain-dieing while lecturing the rest of the group on the evils of zerker gear.

You dont survive “a couple of hits” with thief anyway. The difference is about one hit. Yes, I actually tried this because people kept on telling me how I need defensive gear and build to survive warriors in asca fractal. Total nonesense. I died just about as fast as with zerker gear, until I started using my skills correctly, then I didnt die with zerker gear.

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Three times avoided everything (thieves ;p ) and no achievement for anyone. Waiting for fix.

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Also running zerker gear in all kinds of dungeons. Only time Im missing defensive build is when trying to shuttle newbies through arah

Weapons: sword+dagger and pistol+pistol
For bosses with easy tell I use sword+dagger and those where my track record isnt that great I use p/p.
Shadowstep and sword 2 keep you alive a lot, when used at the right moment.

If you are unsure, start with p/p and try switching to s/d once in a while with sword 2, 3, 3, 2, switch back to p/p 2, 3 and so on. If you have this down pat try staying at boss longer and watch out more closely for his “tells” (raises arms, charge animation etc.).
After that try using your “utility” skills in between above mentioned skill chain and so on.
Its a learning thing

Btw, from experience I can tell you, soldier set or even cleric set wont allow you to facetank anything even as a guardian, and with a thief its just totally wrong imo.
Only talking about pve, mind you.

How to level up fast?

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“Starting zones quests” could be either those yellow hearts where you have to do a certain task for getting those complete, at completion you get a nice amount of exp or personal storyline (green mission info).

WvW can help you level, but not very fast and I wouldnt recommend it below lvl40. You have to
a) survive and
b) do a certain amount of dmg
to get exp in WvW. In my experience it’s simply very uneffective below lvl40.

Btw, doing map completion will help you later on a lot. I leveled my first character only by completing one zone after the other and even though I wasnt the first to hit lvl80, I still got there in time and I was the first getting gift of exploration which you need for legendary weapons.
Also it makes it a lot easier for me nowadays to help my guild with guildmissions, level characters via cooking, finish event achievements fast.

Should I just cut my losses and reroll?

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Its like my moms logic. Ants = your eating too much at desk while playing PC. My counter argument, theres ants in my bathroom too but i never had food in there ever.

Those ants are eating all the dead skin flakes that wash off your body and don’t make it to the drain. Mmmm delicious.

But he wouldnt have so much skin if he didnt eat too much at desk, so in the end, his mum was right? ^^

JJBigs, there’s no proof because Im not interested in demonstrating it. Im not even interested in you believing me Im just interested in making my point, which is: other grp setups work too, heck, even grp setups without guardian work, and with grps found on gw2lfg not having two warriors in grp is – most of the time – better and faster.

Should I just cut my losses and reroll?

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Just build your own pug for 40+ fractals. There should be in it:
- one guardian and
- two classes with reflect (mesmer, ele, guardian, thief… maybe also engi and ranger but never tried those)

Rest is up to you.

Necro is sure not useless in fractals, and I wouldnt really say he is subpar either, but that’s for those “warrior-pugs” to discover on their own

As for getting ascended trinkets: arent there some guilds running guild missions weekly in your region? On EU servers there are several you can join for guild missions and then leave again.
But honestly, I wouldnt set my cap on warrior as a class that will always be in demand. Rather that would be mesmer or guardian. If they nerf dmg of warrior only some you again have a class that isnt really that much in demand. Just use your warrior as a farmbot in cof p1, it’s what I do

Btw, did lvl46 fractal with 2 ranger, 1 thief, 1 necro, 1 mesmer two days ago. Fractals: swamp, dredge, shaman. No wipe, and it was one of my fastest runs lvl40+ with a group found on gw2lfg.
Maybe, but only maybe, it would have been faster with 2 warriors, 2 guardians, but for that to work those guardians and warriors would have had to know what to do.
And sadly, most guardians and warriors one can find on gw2lfg definitely DONT know what to do, resulting in wipes, lots of bad words, and wasting my time with players that heard guardian and warrior are THE class to play in fractals.

Long story short: if you want to pug, make a guardian, if you want to join random grps, keep necro, make guardian or mesmer.
Let some other poor soul play warrior and keep on believing warrior will always be best

Storymode

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Thats simple, Bright, because that’s exactly how most people think. Resulting in quite a lot of grps with nobody having storymode.
It’s actually getting worse the longer this game exists because most have at least 2 alts nowadays, and only one has storymode → less player with storymode in grp.

Lightrayne I dont quite understand. Storymode is the same for each character. At least it was for me. Personal Story I could at least vary quite a bit through different choices I made, and I dont have to have it at all It’s my personal choice to complete it. Whereas storymode is something at least one in group has to have.
Doesnt really need to be an accountwide check, creating instance with one character and then switching like with fractals would be nice also

Doing those storymodes during leveling is a great idea, sadly every time I tried I was kicked out of grp, even though I actually build that group and was 70+ -.- I think Im not the only one that experienced this. But you are correct, if you have people to tolerate you with lower level in storymode it’s sure a lot less annoying.

Dungeon Master

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Order is more like:
1. Proximity
2. Toughness
3. DPS
4. Vitality

But yeah, as Ratty wrote, Guardian gets aggro and more importantly KEEPS aggro better.

I see people posting things like “Simin is easy now” all the time, but keep in mind: with players new to this dungeon or simply bad players or even PTV geared players this encounter can be like trying to roll a rock up a hill.

Last week I had a grp where 2 had condition build, 2 PTV gear and the only one doing dmg was me as a ranger with zerker build and gear.

So to summarize this whole rambling: arah p4 is not a dungeon you can just walk inside and muddle your way through. While this might work in p3, p4 you have to do a gear check at the beginning and make sure everybody understands tactics.
Not everybody has to have zerker gear, but I can tell you from experience, that 2x PTV + 2x condition build with mediocre players in addition → simin will simply not die.

Storymode

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Hi,

is it just me, or does it seem rather ridiculous to have to do storymode over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for each and every alt one has?

I mean, okay… first two times it was kinda fun. But after 4x cof story, 3x hotw story, 5x arah story, 2x TA story, I simply CAN NOT do another storymode with forced movie scenes.

Honestly, those storymode dungeons arent that great

Skill/Trait Updates incoming for all!

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What trouble? It sounds like a wishlist, written in patchnotes-style

So far, of all those “leaked patchnotes” I have read over the last few decades (yes, decades ;p ) none were ever true.

And one GM of another game put it quite nicely: there are no “in advance” patchnotes written. Patchnotes are about the last part that is put together, after everything else.

Leaked Patchnotes would mean Arenanet already had patch completed – in advance.

Now I ask you: how likely is THAT? ^^ About as likely as those “patchnotes” are true ;D

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There always were and always will be fake so called “leaked patchnotes” in online games

Its been a competition for decades to get them as realistic as possible while stating ridiculous things.

As long as those arent verified by Arenanet, Im not holding my breath or getting in some kind of huff ;p

Two of my toons experience lag, rest are fine

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for me its the other way round, with all but two characters I have massive lags, often followed by disconnects

I first thought my internet connection was bad, but after checking it with various tools I noticed that my internet was just fine, only while playing those characters affected arenanet sometimes times out (I get no incoming packages anymore for quite some time)

Started with first dragonbash patch and is really starting to annoy me.

Pet saying NO!

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It’s really sad that there is no way around the pet for a ranger. With my necro at least I can say: okay, pets are weird this patch so I won’t play minion master until it’s fixed.

As a ranger the only thing I can do is not play that class at all…

Pet saying NO!

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Was just wondering the same thing ^^ I even already changed keyboard to make sure it wasnt an issue with my hardware.

Spamming attack button seems to be working, but that’s no solution.

Really is an annoying bug. And I can’t make rhyme or reason of it. It happens infight just as often as out of fight.

Dungeon kicking has got to change!

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Optimal solution would be for community not to abuse this feature.

But as this is the “real” world and not Utopia:
- One solution could be to add an internal counter which denies reward (loot and level up) if you havent done any “normal” fractal before Jade Maw or
- another solution would be to deactivate voting for kick function in 3rd fractal and Jade Maw.

Neither is the perfect solution, but they would minimize the time wasted by the one getting kicked from grp and increasing the time those anti-social sycophants have to spend doing something for their reward.

Posting Guildtags will do nothing. It might have worked in medieval times (but I rather doubt that, humans being well… humans even then) but it sure wont work in a virtual world where you can change your “spots” with one click

But you all do realize that this is griefplay and as such you can report them? Just take a screenshot at the beginning of each fractal run so you have those names and report them. After that it’s up to Anet to “fix” this situation.