Guild Wars 2

I am still here and there. Just… after Sunday morning and Monday noon (NA Pacific Time) events, I’m a bit tired… but homeland regulars know that I was there somewhere. I’ll (try) make this post quick.

Monday noon/afternoon, right after my post here…
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l1xrg389xvn2ta2/nmtOLVKJeB

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(Rel/Ref: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/7-26-DR-AR-HoD/page/3#post2515129 weird, failed to quote here )

Dear AR, I’ve never been in your or other enemy borderlands for weeks. (except taking the shortcut to Lion’s Arch from PvE map, walking from DR spawn to LA portal in Citadel is a bit far~) I can’t explain the first screenshot to you, and I, or we, have no power and rights to tell people what to do. They themselves play for fun, too.

I do and did think that it would be funner if the 2nd and 3rd server unspokenly team up against the 1st, but it’s very hard to pull off. I fully understand that it’s not so much fun running around like hell, just like what you do in PvE, to defend your hard- or half-upgraded (or paper :-/ ) borderland posts and to fend overwhelming or at least quite annoying enemies.

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Dear HoD — “Just embrace what you’ve earned for yourself.”

You can trigger the orange swords all by yourself. I was on the cata on lower level covering the treb in Garrison. I’m pretty sure I was the only one near Garrison watergate then, the 2nd time you pushed into our Garrison (13:55 PDT). I saw orange swords, I shouted out in map chat, I saw you in.

You can also see that there weren’t many DR in the pictures when the orange swords popped up. (/kudos Creamy [Bags]) Earlier around noon, your first push to the Garrison watergate, I just logged in and our people just successfully defended our NW tower. You had another one or two small/medium group (/kudos [VLK]) in our borderland then.

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Kanthar Turambar.9164:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

Screenshots attached and also in the Dropbox album.

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Have fun, all!

Bllade.1029:

Again. Better coverage. Not outnumbered.

We spread the peanut butter evenly, 2-3 medium WvW guilds around different borderlands.

Seems to me like you guys slap down all your peanut butter when DDLG hits the field one place one time. Steam roll zerg.

Intriguingly, I think DR do that, too. We’re not DDLG and friends server! (for the record, I have friends in DDLG)

At least 2 of our bigger/medium guilds do small group roaming, and I know both of them having some Aussie or Brits people… plus, it’s summer vacation now for most students.

Maybe we should go ask AR in their BL after reset or on Saturday, also AR and DR people in EB during day time, or more specifically 14:00~19:00 PDT (17:00~22:00 EDT <- should be prime time, right??) last weekend. I think you did pretty well in EB, had a strong presence in AR BL and some footprints in our BL.

Also speaking of coverage, if you could have 25 people in our BL yesterday morning and kick us out of EB (heard that our EB commander got maybe 20[?] people yesterday morning while we dying defending Bay), I wonder how many people you a NA server would have during NA prime time. I checked EB map yesterday around noon, later after the morning event at our Bay, we got like… 1 tower and 1 camp in EB.

Or, well, we’ll see how it goes in this match. Good luck to all, then!

lunyboy.8672:

playard.6035:

Sinester.3572:

I counted only 1 comma and 0 period in that… paragraph?

This is how he talks, English isn’t his first language… and without profanity it is harder to tell when his sentences stop.

Me, too………

In the afternoon, after my post here at 13:12 PDT, I logged in and started to set up DR BL sieges with infamous Bukems. The Bay’s supply hadn’t and never recovered to full yesterday, around 1000 at most or maybe far less.

We had to constantly fight a 12-man HoD group, mainly [Rawr], in our borderland, and lost some of sieges at Hills and Garrison due to lack of timely refreshing. The [Rawr] group took SW and SE tower, knocked out Hills south gate and north gate cannons, left north Hills and headed to our NE camp.

Expecting potential attack at our NE tower, I was sent there right before the [Rawr] group arrived. They built 1 ballista in front of NE tower trying to take out our NE tower sieges on the hill. We called [OBS] and other people to NE tower to help, and, yes, successfully defended the tower.

Went back to work on rebuilding Garrison and other sieges. Stayed until 17:40 PDT and had to left WvW for… something. XD

We had found that we had fewer people on yesterday afternoon while building, refreshing, defending, and cleaning up the mess after [Rawr]. We basically gave up (sieging) south towers in the early afternoon and focused on 3 keeps and north towers. (set up Hills superior treb for retaking SE tower)

The HoD [Rawr] group picked up our siege-less NW tower right before I left our BL… and you all know the story happened shortly after.

Although I can’t remember if we ever got 10 DR in one spot yesterday afternoon, I think it was good and fair fights comparing with the zergy messy morning.

PS. Condemn Zultz and Blodeuyn! q:

Kyskythyn.6471:

Gundail.7594:

…losing Bay and maybe Hills might have been beyond your control but a rally at Garrison should have been possible. Unmanned cannons, basically a skeleton crew of defenders and eight or so unmanned siege in Lord’s room during NA Prime time? Not really about being out numbered, just a lack of response or possibly morale.

Hills got hit first, so the defenders on the map were concentrated there. We had 15-20 people in hills, and fewer than that in garrison. As mentioned before, DDLG, Rega and a few other guilds were off doing guild missions at the time (heh, PvE scrubs…). Not really a matter of morale or response, more like 20v50 gg. Nevertheless, was a good siege and a good take by HoD.

AFAIK, things happened yesterday, Sunday, in DR BL…

When I poked my head into WvW on Sunday morning, HoD brought an easily 20+ or even 30+ organized PuG force to DR BL maybe around 9:30am (NA Pacific Time). I had no intention to stay in WvW then, and whispered some WvW regular asking, “Are we okay here at home?” — nope, not really.

HoD were at Bay’s inner south. When I ran to Bay, Bay’s inner south gate was 5% and at least 1 enemy golem was still knocking inner south gate. It was quite messy, so I didn’t count how many people we had, not so many. While others were taking care of red tags and the golem(s) by hands or ACs, I rushed to the gate to fix it and called out in map chat asking some more help to repair it. Our people brought the golem(s) down, and inner south gate’s HP was steadily up to 25%+.

HoD retreated to Bay’s outer south gate, it was still wide open, we had no knowledged WvW’ers or enough extra manpower to close outer gate earlier and after we saved inner south from HoD. I suicided at least thrice trying to close outer south gate. Then HoD’s SW tower treb was up, later SW camp treb(s) was up…

My guild admin Iorek was there defending Bay before I arrived. He manned the AC at inner south gate, then the inner Bay treb and sieged up the lord’s room like hell. Later we had 2 or 3 more VP guildies logged in and joined us at Bay.

We never had the chance to close Bay’s outer south gate. Both outer and inner wall were trebbed down by SW tower and camp trebs. Iorek and others sieged up the lord’s room and drained all 1700 supply. (BTW, thank DDLG for +5 supply buff at Bay on Sunday morning)

I went to check Hills and contest SE tower (HoD’s then) in the middle of fights after I died at south gate. I saw VP guildie yelling in map chat twice asking people to lord’s room but didn’t know if you HoD ever made it to the lord’s room in Bay.

The fight lasted at least 1hr. The following screenshots were taken at 10:41 and 10:58 PDT before I logged off.

Bllade.1029:

qualm like a bomb.6512:

Never said you win because of other servers, and no one is crying. You have numbers pure and simple. Don’t expect us to hop servers because you have numbers. All the more reason to stay where the skill is ;-D

I have four letters for you: D – D – L – G. Wonder where your numbers are? Join that guild.

You’re not outnumbered, we’ve just got better coverage. Regardless, all this moaning and groaning is silly because when HoD and DR hit prime time, were pretty freakin’ even. When DDLG brings out the steamroll zerg, it’s back and forth. But when DDLG isn’t out, yeah you guys get rolled over.

That’s not our fault.

I would highly doubt if we’re pretty freakin’ even… we don’t have enough man power to hit both enemy borderlands hard like HoD. — if some of us did, homeland security people are kittened, or at least being VERY frustratingly busy. Also HoD kicked us out of EB during the weekend at least once or twice and it was not some NA early morning shift.

Just embrace what you’ve earned for yourself.

Sinester.3572:

DR crying we have numbers we ALLWAYS had more coverage then u guys we took all ur stuff in every matchup what u expect? the few ppl in DR that posted on the forums that we just win DR because of the other servers guess what u guys just make points and are balance whit us because of the other servers now heres ur lesson do not trash talk whitout a reason next time this time theres no stronger server to fight us back like the other matchups so we can focus and do our thing dont get mad, and about AR u guys look so awesome but no ppl at all u guys should transfer here! so we can all be stronger!

I counted only 1 comma and 0 period in that… paragraph?

WhiteRose.6934:

SandySothe.7950:

HoD vs DR dance off at north camp. Rose says we win, sorry DR.

Definitely won the dance off. Look at our grace, and our poise.

The winner is obvious really.

All right, all right, you won the grace contest, but our PuG looked funnier.

Bukems, the Charr Legend awkwardly facing the corner of the house, y u no join us? Don’t be shy, silly! We’re out silly you!

PS. weird. got problem with taking screenshots in game…

Hot in the morning there, but cold here…

wish.1027:

Did you guys know Im #1 dance commander NA during WvW down time?

I saw RED commanders dancing in front of the banks in Lion’s Arch many times. One of them even masters playing Marriner’s Horn… Several people and I passing by tipped him 10 copper.

Darkothe.1253:

Feel free to fill out a survey on your stay, but do it quickly as I’m fairly certain that you won’t be enjoying the amenities in our keeps for long.

Cheers!

Unable to have a regular presence in-game recently, so… I tracked MOS live map and took the following screentshots.

I felt sad about our side in EB, but, well, we don’t have enough zerg groups to fight both enemy servers, or build and man a whole platoon of golems. :-/

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Nice try at garrison HoD Noobs!
VP owned all of you tonight.

Mmm, dear HoD & NSP people, please ignore any posts by that account ID. Thanks.

Zeroskillz.4983:

Kitten… all these long kitten posts.

Like mine?

(I should post more funny pictures like what I did before on our forum.)

Speaking of fun, sieges on the open field, and DR giving me love and laugh……

One day evening in this match, we noticed that our E sentry was gone and NE camp flipped by SF rather quick, so probably Blodeuyn called it out in the map/team chat that available hands to NN camp from Citadel.

Initially, there were just 4 or 5 random (guild) but maybe all regular DR rushed to NN camp. I dropped an regular AC next to the supply pile, 1 or 2 other people helped me to finish it. Then I found Blodeuyn the ele and Kleo the engi (I think so) heading to NN camp’s east entrance, so I tried to catch up with them.

All of a sudden, they both turned back running to me, and I saw 5-7+ SF chasing them incoming from the route to the centaurs. Kleo and I both lol’ed in public chat immediately, then we retreated to NN camp. I told people in map chat that I built an AC next to supply pile when I was auto running for my sorry life.

I think it was an even fight, or maybe we were slightly fewer than SF, but we got help from camp NPCs and the AC (someone manned it). We defended the camp successfully before more reinforcements came.

Similar things happened twice or thrice at our SW camp, too. We saw the anonymous victim Sylvari B was dying in SW camp, so 2 party members WP to Bay and rushed to SW camp. It was pretty messy in SW camp when we made it there, victim B and the quarter master were down, veteran supervisor still valiantly fighting for us was the last one standing. There were 4-5+ SF and we got the supervisor and 3-4 DR — 1 on the ground. I don’t really know how we managed to save the camp, but we made it before our full backup arrived.

Nonetheless, we did a poor job in SE area. I used all my 5 or 6 stealth distruptor traps yesterday and maybe only successfully defended SE camp or sentry twice. :-/

We’re not an organised group in the same or closed guilds, we’re just a random pact or non-pact party. We use the party as a tool to acquire activity info on the map and call the enemy target when 2 or 3 of us work together. (uh, and chatting)

ET and SF occasionally would bring 25+ prime time zerg to our SE and SW tower, but most of the time in DR BL, you have some solo, duo, or small group up to maybe 7 working well. For me or for my party, it is fun, if comparing with previous matches… and I hope at least DR BL isn’t too zergy for you.

Craig.2403:

Anyways, the problem with your post about siege is that the larger group ALWAYS has more siege. So, you see, while this small group builds 1 or 2 arrow carts (because that’s all they have supply to build), the zerg is quickly building 10… and how does this help the small group? You make it sound like only the small group gets siege, which is clearly wrong.

In that case, the real problem is the zerg, and that’s an annoyingly smart one. Don’t blame the sieges.

On the field or at a post, the sieger or the commander needs people to stop spamming 11111 or 22222 chasing the red tags and help building sieges, and the kind and cool helpers may have no chance to play one of those siege toys. Also please do remember that, as I said before, sieges aren’t there by themselves and aren’t always there.

Without sieges in WvW, or as some elite players suggested here — we should all go out and fight for the eternal glory (or for the hell of fun, for the pure pleasant sensation, which is arguable among die-hard PvP’ers, Master of Disaster siegers, and casual players) — somehow I think it will be just something dull and sad (in modern era or today’s view) like The Charge of the Light Brigade .

The situation we’re talking here is interestingly a bit different from the poem and history though. However, I’m not gonna to elaborate on the fact of the history and the metaphor behind or the meaning of the poem. You native English speakers or people growing up in western countries — North America, UK, or EU — should understand it better than me. (._.)

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Eh, god kitten it! It’s a game! I play it for fun with some fun people (the social side of WvW), and I usually post something I think it’s fun or has something funny or awkwardly humourous in it. I do feel tired of all those BS (oops! no offense!!) from time to time, but some old faces in DR always give me a laugh! XD …maybe you should find yours, too.

I know that last week and this week we’re winning, but some people here do say that —win or lose, it doesn’t matter -- as long as you have quality time with your server mates.

I had fun once running with MethaneGas/Marin’s [OHai] guildies . I didn’t know them before, just met them on my way to the sentry in enemy borderland. They or we didn’t plan the masquerade party. Someone in [OHai] started it, and others, including me, just all followed. I used 15 of my 20 transformation potions that night.

It is my first forum post, and you can see we have outmanned outnumbered buff on. We went to DH’s NN camp from east, capped the camp, but then got killed fooling around there. However, hilariously, we came back later from west and did it again…… Last time I saw maybe [OHai]’s ele in EB, he is doing silly dancing in postman form!

Jakare.6807:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Best advice I could give people if you wanna keep WvW alive, stop scoreboard watching, stop coming to WvW to meet your PVE nubiness needs, bail your scary kitten out of those cozy towers and keeps, get off that NUBASS siege and come fight and learn to play your toon. That is one thing that I do agree with PAXA on…

Pretty much this. Use WvW for what it is, a massive roaming team deathmatch battleground. Learn your class, REALLY learn it, play it to it’s limits, put yourself in situations that actually have some kind of risk and actually push you to get better, because right now that’s basically the end game. Every time you lose a fight you should have learnt something. Every time you spam 1 on an AC in a tower, somewhere in the world a child dies.

Don’t forgo the best challenge that you can get in this game because you’d rather press 1 to win than face losing a fight and paying a few silver repair costs, you can make that money back just getting stacks off of coyote’s for kitten’s sake.

With all due respect, I don’t agree with you two. Your games ain’t my game.

I do learn a lot, about how to play my toon, in WvW — dropped the sorry-kitten ranger’s long bow and learned the short bow, contemplated thoroughly then actually tweaked my build, tried and changed the pets I used. (still love~ my Charlie Brown Bear and Paula Polar Bear <- I think bears thing explained me a lot…)

I was and still is a lame ranger, but lately it becomes possible for me to slowly solo a camp — kill the scouts and dodge the guards first, kite with SB’s skill #3 and stack the conditions using pets and with the help from spirits.

Had some interesting 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 or small group fights with my random but regular party in this match. Won some, lost some… or probably lost a bit more. I don’t really care about dying recently. If I am dying or dead somewhere on the map, the other 1 or 2 members in my party will notice and come to check what’s wrong with the particular site or region, before or without me asking or calling out in chat. We usually won’t bring all our 4-5 PuG-like party members down to fight or zerg the enemy. Sadly we siege lovers/haters always have sieges somewhere to baby-sit.

I like and enjoy the strategic and social side of WvW. I’m not a killer-type player. (I’ll roll on a thief? a mes? a warrior? a guardian? an ele? a necro? or an engi? for that, I think.)

Yea, attacking enemy borderland for whatever reasons you come up for yourself is fun. Also being attackers, you have certain advantages over defenders. At least, it’s fun, it’s your call to attack, and it’s rewarding — mentally and physically. Or, at least you know your kitten in advance. Most of the time, we few homeland defenders are either chasing enemy’s tail, cleaning and patching things up, or, most likely, fighting the highy-buffed Lv.99 Legendary Champion Boredom. (._.)

Please do understand that the sieges aren’t there by themselves, in BL and/or in EB. Some smart guys (or, dumb fools) built them gradually involving several runs from supply hut and camps. And sieges aren’t always there by themselves. Some boring people who has no better things to do in WvW refreshed them (or just some WvW noobs tried to fire those seemingly interesting toys) from time to time. Ask any siegers in BL or commanders in EB who ordered and/or built sieges at keeps and towers, the mortality rates of sieges won’t be low.

I understand that people can have fun in different ways, in their own ways, and I respect our hardcore roaming and fighting squads, especailly [EDGE]. (Sorry~ [OBS] & Bukems q: ) Thanks for helping defending our south borderland now and then. I frequently ran into Gwyndor, and maybe Initialise as well, in our south camps before. Even if you were AFK standing there in SE camp, I still feel greatly safer at home. BTW, Zeroskillz is my former guildie, and I think I am the one who makes him join EDGE. (Sorry, had to turn down your invitation weeks ago, I’m afraid that I’m not your type.)

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5000 chars?

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Edit: SAFE!

The following are some of my fond memories in WvW.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-10-DR-GOM-NSP/2039670
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-10-DR-GOM-NSP/2027282
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-24-T7-NSP-DR-GoM/2098928
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1873320
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1877553

¿Qué te paxa? <(._.)

Kano.3720:

irishhaf.1692:

We wernt expecting to take anything but when i got on EB i didnt see SF, so RegA commander and i decided to take ogres. dropped 2 golems. saw SF at veloka so we went to anz then mendons. WP back to Keep and made around 17 golems, took SM. Made 4 more golems took there keep. After ET hit ogres we Decided to Take there side then i wasted around 8g upgrading with others. We only had 15 or so in the beggnining and in the end maybe 25 a little more.

Zultz, GO BACK TO SLEEP! Seriously.

Spirit Ritulist.9314:

Fear DR’s mighty navy

Pain-in-the-arrsse hard to refresh for us…………

Kano.3720:

Mickz.8356:

Zultz dont kitten about with his buffs.

This one has more O_o

Showing off! Did you really have to force me to quit my party with homeland security siegers and drag me all the way to ugly EB for this kitten!? (see attachment)

Blodeuyn.2751:

Great weekend ET and SF! I haven’t had this much fun in quite a while. It feels like a much classier matchup with all sides putting up a good fight.

I’ve had a good time running with the DR regulars (love you guys)

^specifically in DR BL, for the most part.

Just learned from the past three days in this and previous match, a party of 3-5 siegers can make a significant difference to borderland defence — for all we do are running, refreshing, and scouting everywhere. Occasionally fighting, duelling, or dying somewhere.

ET and SF, I respect your solo, duo, or roaming party in our borderland. I think at least some of you have fun with our PuG-like siegers’ party and our homeland krewe. I’m, and we’re, happy to have one ET mesmer joined our party for chat and PvP in WvW yesterday afternoon.

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Now tell me, why the hell was IT there? o_O

Gab Superstar.4059:

Mhmmmm this will be a fun weekend…

Nice cow!

Kano.3720:

Devon.9061:

We would be happy to help but With GoM Capping us at night and fergusons backcapping us and teaming on us when they have the chance most of our guys are tired of it.

Oh, IT’S YOU! How embarrassed and embarrassing! q:

Well, we’re sadly (and seemingly always) in the 2nd place, and they actually have at least one other reason to hit us. People love DR, you know~ //pat

Devon.9061:

Dear DR,

Please step up your game and try to get positive rating. We really want to kick SF back to T8! In no way shape or form am I trying to be rude. Sorry, if i do come off this way.

Sincerely,
HoD

Sorry, but GoM just granted my yet another WvW leave yesterday evening between 18:00 and 20:00, NA Pacific Time — during my commute and dinner time.

I built enough, if not plenty, initial sieges in Garrison around 14:30~ (PST, or should say PDT), that is 17:30 onward EDT, and I also put +5 supply buff on Garrison then, for me and all other siegers and people. I had annoyingly and constantly called out in map chat or team chat (sometimes public /say channel, I wanna make sure that it stands out) that “Garrison provides 15 supply in the following n hours.” yesterday and the day before yesterday.

Oh, I’m also the one who put full buffs on Garrison on Saturday or Sunday (it’s blurred now…) night, NA prime time, during the fight between our NE tower and Garrison, if GoM or our peeps ever noticed that. Some acquaintance merrily shouted to me in map chat that I should go solo the zerg(s). I answered him calmly with yes (no, I won’t marry you), but instead of fighting bravely to the end of the Tyria, I just opened my mini tiny guild panel and activated all the buffs we saved for the time like this.

I’m not bragging or asking for recognition here, tho.

I lost all my inner bridge, upper level, and watergate sieges during my 2hrs (19:00~21:00 PDT) away on Sunday (or Saturday, eh?!) night, after another sieger logged off probably around or before 24:00 her time in EDT. (~21:00 PDT) I lost them once again last night — however, used and destroyed are way better than despawned due to lack of refresh… well, if they all ever got used last night. I whispered people and heard that it was yet again a typical GoM borderland GolemS rush last night, we didn’t even have enough people to man all the sieges before the gate melted down. (Outmanned buff popped out and stayed for a while around 18:10 PDT, right before I logged out) Also, from my Aussie friend, GoM built 10+ AC at Hills gate the night before. They also had the manpower to build 1 treb and 2~3 cats at the north of our NW tower, 6 rams at NE tower (screenshot attached) — all these are just too much for… at least, me.

I checked the map maybe 2hrs ago this morning, it’s… not quite pretty. ._.

All sieges was deposited in my bank late last night, and I’ll go finish my last 2% of world in Cursed Shore~ (cursing ##%$@#) ……for that shiny star over my head and also on my gears, not legendary but just something better than yellow ones.

Best Wishes,
D. of DR

Zumi.6384:

playard.6035:

even 10 GoM will be awarded the title of ZERG. (Sometimes will be called “buncha thieves” for [RH]/[RISE]/[ASH]/[Worm] guild group tho, with all due respect.)

I’m intrigued. Why do you guys refer to us as a “buncha thieves”? Is it because we stealth a lot? Or because we cap things quickly or something?

You peeps stole slippers, tea bags, towels and toilet papers from Devona’s Rest Luxury Resort!

You (<-plural, usually more than 2, mostly 3 or even 3+ :x ) catfight on the bed stained the mattresses and everywhere! — We have to use UV lights and borrow investigation kits from Fergs to clean up all the mess!

It must be cold up there in the 1st place (or up north, this week, and several weeks ago), so you kind people frequently visit and stay in our southern land, either SW or SE, if not recently, then the week(s) before when we met each other. I once jokingly replied to one of our commanders that we had outsourced our late-night homeland security to GoM, our best broderland defense contractor.

Zumi.6384:

Not trying to call you out or anything weird like that, I’m genuinely just curious where the nickname came from.

Okay, now, seriously, it was meant to be an insult, an insult with all due respect. q:

I’m maybe the only one who called [ASH]/[RH]/[RISE]/[Worm] guild group “buncha thieves” in our map chat. My intention is to caution our own.

Weeks ago, I frequently met 3 of your people from [ASH] and [Worm], all thieves. As a non-bunker ranger, the odds may not be ever in my favour, even if I’m lucky to have some acquaintance(s) patrolling and wandering with me. I also met you folks at Hills treb site a lot when I practiced meditation and mindless worry-free-all-the-way-full-power trebbing there — always build 1 or 2 or 3 superior/regular ACs keeping the treb safe from GoM during late night hours, 22:00 onwards, NA Pacific Time.

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TL, DR. Long story short.

A. Thief or thieves are annoying.
B. GoM are annoying.
-> GoM are buncha annoyingly annoying and annoying bad/good thieves!!

(Hardly remember my PHIL001 course……)
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PS. Apologize for no GIFs or funny clips or nice songs, still working on it.
However, I would like to express my appreciation to Fregs folks earlier this morning!

m(_ _)m

Lightsbane.9012:

playard.6035:

Gee, we’re outmanned here as well and as usual! Welp~~~

that’s cute coming from the server who can pull 80 man zergs.

Well, try guest on our server (maybe after the match please q: ) during the NA late night hours or early morning. This morning around maybe 7am NA Pacific Time, we luckily had an 8-member DR ZERG party defending our borderland, oh, and we were actually 4 rangers with 4 reef drakes.

Also basically I stopped counting enemy numbers beyond 15, I don’t have the talent to accurately count large numbers in sight. In our borderland map chat, a group of 15+ or even 10 GoM will be awarded the title of ZERG. (Sometimes will be called “buncha thieves” for [RH]/[RISE]/[ASH]/[Worm] guild group tho, with all due respect.)

I didn’t count how many people you had last night attending the SE party in our borderland, but I spotted a lot of (10+) red tags earlier there from SE sentry. (BTW, thanks for the banners, [DRUG].) I played less recently, and I wasn’t always there fighting you guys. To be clear here, on this, we did have people on last night at SE tower, but I think it took a very long time for our people to build up our group and momentum there. We had other issues at home then. You weren’t and aren’t the only one who tried to date us. (eh, ET want us, too? Hell! So much love for Devona) However, you people held a good party there, indeed.

If you still have problem with the large number group, please feel free to talk to your BOSS or zombies!

Darek.1836:

Lightsbane.9012:

so can you guys ;_;

does anyone remember last night when we had the 25FC vs 60 or so GoM in the open field? that was insane.

Hear, hear! //

Gee, we’re outmanned here as well and as usual! Welp~~~

Mmm, I’ll see if I can find some decent GIFs or pictures later… totally lost that war QQ

PS. Someone from GoM mentioned a guild named [WALE] before? Well, they (or she or he) are one of us. Spotted [WALE] in the water (duh) in our borderland once or twice.

XxzaverxX.6790:

all we can do is forget about eb lets defend our own bl

Yes! Eternal Borderland(s)!!! FOREVER!
Borderland security and/or strike krewes for the win! \~/

bokkieskitten.8023:

now… hugs…!

Awww~ That’s… touching!

(Click the Flag/Report button for in-game and on-forum harassment!!)

Myst.5783:

It seems I must admit defeat in this round of forum warrior with even my own server mates against me.

So-called backstabbing!?

Sororita.3465:

melodey.4652:

Someone call Server Police.

He doesn’t do borderlands, hes EB…..

I called Karma Police.

Pity that I don’t have any screentshots handy from this match or this morning, in DR BL just a couple hours ago… Well , let’s try this one!

Tots.3056:

irishhaf.1692:

hey hey… not all forum warriors are complete trolls… I speak from experience..

Ive seen good fights… big and small for a reset weekend I couldnt be happier.

True, true. There isn’t quite a forum war yet. We shall see who lights the fire.

I ain’t no troll~ I’m a support(?) ranger!

Let’s set fire to the rain!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IboA2GFLrxQ

JahRo.6432:

BP I am ashamed that you would break off from a 50 man zerg in EB just to kill a baby quaggan. Not once, but twice!

DR is cool in my books, wasn’t hit once and a few joined me as well :-)

Oh yeah~ We DR folks did it before, near and at DH’s NN camp. xD
They, DH, were the winning and dominating server then.

Ref:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1873320
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1877553

Cheers!

urbanevil.7145:

A wise man once told me dont argue with fools, people from a distance can’t tell who is who..

I’m with the wise man!

Somehow people who I argued with or argued with me just gave up (and completly changed in one night or day, depending on timezone), ignored my questions and posts. I don’t know why, maybe I’m a troll in this thread, mhm, my bad. I presented my arguments and asked some questions trying to clarify the issues, but in vain.

Being a fun worrier, this is probably my last post in the thread, please enjoy my screenshots taken between 3/29~4/25, might remind you of the fun old days
-> http://imgur.com/a/zyvVk#0

Cheers~

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

irishhaf.1692:

While people like Crimson and Kinky prove themselves raging hypocrites every day of this match up, congrats on being that guy you two.

I think youll find myself and Crimmy are the two that wanted most to see DR eat their words after months of us being a weaker server.

Oceanic time is PART of our server ergo we’re a stronger server fullstop. Accept it DR

EDIT: Btw DR if you didnt notice, youre now in 3rd place, should ganged up and the strongest server, because even playing for second didnt go your way!

Well, you must being busy and the forum is messy, so you miss it…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/page/10#post2166089

playard.6035:

So, what are these night capping screenshots all about??

Please enlighten us.

playard.6035:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

And you still insist we recieved a boost in NA…I will still deny that.

playard.6035:

Not to take anything away from you playard, but i have no idea what we’re arguing about anymore. But we were never seriously outnumbered by DR, DR found us as an easy target because we were focussed on the real enemy, y’know, the big server that had the most points? My last screen shot was the most PPT IoJ has seen in months, we were 15 points off of the most PPT, we were all pumped (and sad) that we got so close! It wasnt a bragging ss going all “Ha ha we’re winning” not at all, it was simply a screenshot for the people that werent there at the time to see how close we’d gotten. And the borderland name changes we’re simply in good fun, its the most IoJ colour ive ever seen! I was honestly amazed.

Uh, okay, I’m lost, too.

playard.6035:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

playard.6035:

So why do DR forum warriors feel the need to come to the forums and say our borderland defence is horrible? That they can just rampage through it with ease.
My post about hills was mainly directed at them.

People are constantly posting on here and its clear they only focus on 1 particular time zone and never seem to grasp the fact that the game is 24/7.

From above, you are implying that IoJ have a weak or much weaker presence during NA prime time than DR? DR fighting squads are stomping you with highly superior and/or purely numbers during NA prime? Our people ridicule you people about your valiant small man fighting, so you’re acting the same way to respond?

They or we hit you during NA prime time. You have people on (and have enough or more than enough people on) during NA prime time. Our people said that your borderland defense is terrible because of that — you have manpower during NA prime time, but for some reason, you cannot hold those bad kittens. (Yes, those bad bad kittens! lol I love Anet forum filter now)

playard.6035:

To sum up, IoJ have even numbers, if not better, comparing with DR. Even if IoJ are slightly fewer than us, still you have no big problem during NA prime time. (Can FC folks justify this?)

So, what are these night capping screenshots all about?? Please enlighten us. (Sorry, I’m too lazy to cite all of them here, and I think people hate them and just don’t read them at all)

Your LAST screenshots and the post – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/page/7#post2157875
(hence – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/page/8#post2161403
oh and the simple version – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/page/9#post2163097 )

Not this one
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/page/6#post2152832
but, okay, I’m happy for you, too. It’s something extraordinary.

playard.6035:

So, what are these night capping screenshots all about??

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

playard.6035:

Im IoJ by the way (if you look at my signature) im one of a many commanders that prefer to stomp DR over any other server, i get some sort of sick joy out of seeing that bit of green pie nearly gone!

I know, I got a brain and decent situational awareness — you’re obviously not Fergs.

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

playard.6035:

So why do DR forum warriors feel the need to come to the forums and say our borderland defence is horrible? That they can just rampage through it with ease.
My post about hills was mainly directed at them.

People are constantly posting on here and its clear they only focus on 1 particular time zone and never seem to grasp the fact that the game is 24/7.

From above, you are implying that IoJ have a weak or much weaker presence during NA prime time than DR? DR fighting squads are stomping you with highly superior and/or purely numbers during NA prime? Our people ridicule you people about your valiant small man fighting, so you’re acting the same way to respond?

Now please allow me to repeat and complie forum posts for you.

playard.6035:

Still, there are a lot of IoJ last night at your NN camp, our SW camp, and maybe also SS camp. It’s Monday afternoon, regular weekday in Oceania. Your Oceanic people are most likely not online.

And, frankly, some IoJ people really successfully kitten ed our people, and/or (even?) me(?) off… please check my peaceful first post here, and maybe…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/2135180
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/2140796

I am not surprised that all our hardcore or even softcore WvW players during that time, NA prime time, were there (and/or somewhere else earlier) having some fun with you.

SiLENT.2346:

Dream In A Dream.7213:

“locking down a zerg” “vs smaller numbers” “without own support”
I really don’t think you understand what those phases mean because:

There was AT least 50 DR outside that camp spread out from the entrance to the camp to the entrace of bay akittens biggest until you all got tired of dying(as was obvious when all kills stopped giving any form of wxp) and left except for the few that stayed behind in the last few minutes of the fight
OR
Is that why yall didnt manage to flip anything the whole time you had us “locked down”. Hell FC did better then yall and TOOK STONEMIST while yall had everyone there fighting us. Yall couldnt even get a small group to go flip that tower.

Besides DDLG, I think almost all our roaming fighting squads who usually running a 5~7-man group were there.

I can’t say for sure, but I think the messy fights on Sunday night (NA Pacific Time) is a good estimation for our entire NA prime time crew, consisting of core WvW’ers and PuGs, PuGs who saw the orange swords and/or answered the map chat call. And hence, it’s also good to say that now IoJ NA prime time presence was and is not seriously outnumbered by DR. (I doubt if you can correctly estimate enemy group larger than 30 or 25, but let’s just take it.)

Plus,

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Lepew.7890:

I dont think you, and some other DR realise, we obviously dont need FCs help. If FC didnt hit us during NA, how do you think DR will manage solo against IoJ? Laughed at the thought of that.

To sum up, IoJ have even numbers, if not better, comparing with DR. Even if IoJ are slightly fewer than us, still you have no big problem during NA prime time. (Can FC folks justify this?)

So, what are these night capping screenshots all about?? Please enlighten us. (Sorry, I’m too lazy to cite all of them here, and I think people hate them and just don’t read them at all)

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

And we want to help FC, theyre clearly the weakest server in this tier, most of our commanders will go to their borderlands simply to flip whatever DR has flipped (what crimmy said) so that FC can get it back with ease and DR doesnt get cheap points.

That’s, just, noble.

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Just like Wikipedia has a Simple English version. This is a simple version.

It’s late in NA. We have few people, and even fewer experienced players who know and understand sieges, have sieges with them in their inventory, and know where and how to place them. It’s late.

FC may have no manpower or some WvW veterans in their BL, too, so the map stays half green. It’s late.

Good job for taking the paper Hills and posting to tell us our borderland defense is poor — nobody and no experienced players were there, except walls, doors, NPCs, and faithful keep lord. And yea, maybe people didn’t order upgrades for the reason you stated, you’re lmao correct.

I’m not QQing the silver and gold I sunk into upgrades to you. You are red, why should I QQ about that to you? Begging for your mercy and understanding? (the latter is ridiculously hard!!!!!)

—
And QQing about IoJ’s “dominating”? Ha, oh man, I just… (ry

I saw and read our people and your people’s posts in between and later, I’m sorry that I have to skip those (5,000 chars limits, ah, exceeded again) and I actually have nothing to comment on those. Somehow I think our armed forces really like to turn on hard mode for our self-defense forces — that is, hitting both side day and/or night, and get us hit by both side at the same time. Camp running or XP train is fine, but what I’ve seen is beyond that.

I learned that some DR have friends in FC, they’re just playing with each other for fun, but I don’t know how other FC people interpret that. Some simple logic is… you have a lot of fun in our BL, I’ll go have some fun in your BL, too.

Yesterday afternoon before the new build, with the help from few friends and their guildies, we take NE tower back and secure the north for yaks bringing supply to Garrison. I can’t remember what I had ordered for Garrison during my time yesterday (just SSDD since facing GoM), but I did order the WP and walked several yaks. I want to bring Garrison WP up first, for Hills and Bay and others. WP was 45% before the new build kicked in. I logged out for the rest of the afternoon. When I came home around 19:00 (NA Pacific Time), Garrison was not claimed by the guild previously having it and I saw no WP. I sent a mail, returned some gold to my friend, and logged out for the night.

I poked my head into DR BL early this morning between 04:00 and maybe 05:50 NA Pacific Time (19:00~20:50 UTC +0800). 2 sieger friends online, and we had had a lot of sieges in Garrison, ACs, ballistas, trebs. I just chatted with people in map chat, and kept refreshing sieges we got. Had some fun bombarding IoJ people attacking watergate and inner south with my newly unlocked cannons mastery lv2, and later trebbing inner south gate in lord’s room.

I didn’t build some more ACs at watergate. My accumulated skill points drops from 120 or 130 something to 82 now. I’m fully aware that it’s a game. I also understand people playing for fun, in different ways, in their ways. So, I think I’ll just go camping or fooling around somewhere else for a while from now. World completion 92%~

—
@Lepew: Anet/NCsoft partnered with Chinese company, and a special localized GW2 is now closed beta in mainland China. I don’t know if they’ll open the servers to others running the standard version, or if they’ll have servers for Aussie, Kiwi, Japanese, Korean people just like the EU servers do for different ethnic groups.

—
PS. Recently, after p.1 and p.2, no one directly qoute me, reply me, troll me, or argue with me, I’m so sad. QQ

I thought this kind of posts died down after my posts in page 6. (._.)

Some of your true forum fighters toned down and changed a bit, some FC people stood out and also had some interesting replies as usual.

Until…

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

World Versus Isle of Janthir

WE WERE SO kittenING CLOSE TO 695PPT, WE HAD 680 AT ONE POINT. WHY DID YOU LOT HAVE TO RUIN THAT, WHY!!!!

Also thanks to Derron, it is now Isle of Janthir Lowlands, we expect you to be packed by tomorrow Devona, we mean it!!!

Well, probably just excitement…

[ Old Quote ]

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

There was no bragging then, my post with the youtube link was just excitement, we’ve never capped all of EB on reset weekend! Im Blue da be de da ba di

[/Old Quote]

Then, again,

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Naw which DR fella said IoJ’s borderland defense was poor?

You guys are in FCs borderlands being a menace meanwhile your hills gets 5 manned?

Hey, good one! Mr. Starkk from [GEN]… [GEN] implies Oceanic, right?

However, the time you posted which I see on my screen here is 00:29 (please see attachment), and the time on your mini-map is 12:xx AM something… I think it’s server time, which is NA Pacific Time. (Ref: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/updated-changing-wvw-match-reset-time/ Anet announces news and updates using NA Pacific Time, too. PDT here stands for NA Pacific Daylight Time, just FYI. And, if I didn’t get it wrong, I think Anet is based in Seattle, WA.) again, for your information, it’s 3AM NA Eastern Time.

If the time in the screenshot is not NA Pacific Time, then 00:xx UTC +0800 would be 09:xx NA Pacific Time. Well, I think I get it right up there, anyway.

Eh, the people here or there really don’t know much about each other’s schedule… I know time difference is mindkittening, but I expected Oceanic/Asia-Pacific people coming to NA servers is more aware of it, comparing with those errogant NA people. (also you actually set you in-game clock to server time) And here, some further information about the most NA people — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USA-2000-population-density.gif , and I feel bad if I don’t include/introduce Canada a bit — http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-214-x/2010000/m003-eng.htm .

I see the WvW map in your 3rd screenshot. Although there is a possibility that Fergs have no manpower to retake their land swiftly and/or their force online focus in EB during that time, it is indeed very sad for our homeland security krewe, daytime or nighttime. — No one likes to defend the boredom land when it’s peaceful, and few like to defend the borderland when it’s messy, people like to conquer, like to play.

According to my experiences in past few weeks (matches with GoM and NSP), we might have a handful or less than 10 people on the map then, most of whom not from major or well-known guilds (check my “bear with me” screenshot… alas, I masked all the guild tags for our in-game privacy. We certainly don’t want to become some bad people’s target in-game), and it would be lucky if I run into 3+ experienced WvW’ers in our borderland. (eg. in-game warrior Theo, and self-proclaimed gay thief Alk q: )

Back to the topic(?), the way to counter your party’s attack at Hills west wall ninja spot is using sieges, setting up 1 AC or using the south mortar on the west wall. With AC mastery lv1 and recently lv2, I solo’ed defensing Hills from GoM ninjas and Hills treb killers a lot in previous matches. 3-5+ GoM [RH] [ASH] [Worm] group love the lakeview (especially when we trebbed down NW wall), the convenient location, and the farming potential of our SE tower! uh, off the topic…

I don’t know if we got a WP up at Hills, most likely not. It seems that your party did a great job to set up not only 2 but 3 cats in advance, it may be too late for our HLS krewe after they noticed contested Hills WP or the 30s-delayed notification at Hills then coming from Garrison or Citadel (if Garrison is contested) to build the AC or use mortar to save Hills. (Surely you can have 1-2 people in your party to neutralize 1-2 our lonely homeland defender[s]) Plus, your commander is working on Bay, and our map looks quite blue then (or seconds after you took Hills and the screenshot)

TL; DR

NOICE JOB. (= w=)b

Banzie.5248:

Fc guys you confuse me so much.. You Consistently hit IoJ, and we only hit you after you hit us. Meanwhile DR continues, day after freaking day to flip every single one of your BL keep and you are concerned only about hitting us. Can you please enlighten me on your logic :l

They had fun at our SE camp, SE tower, NE camp, NE tower, then NN camp (because we were busy at Bay and ignored them for so long), also Hills south gate and inner north, and later Garrison watergate, inner south, and the lord’s room.

Sorry, but for some reason, the outmanned buff popped out shortly twice during that time. Please forgive us for our inattention.

You can see how boring they were in our borderland from the first picture, and feel how happy they were from the third picture. Quite nice folks from [TTA].

BTW, met 3~5-man [Yarr] party several times at or near our SE tower, I think we held a temporary tiny spawn camping fight club on Sunday evening.

About Mini Me III, I don’t know where you (hmm) get his full account ID with that 4 digits – nickname or the first part of account ID is not unique, according to Anet – and I am not sure if you people get it right. Also I don’t understand why he’s necessarily in your guild roster… with the same or similar nickname? guest on our server??

Anyway, I’ll check and provide the screenshot on that information next time I see him. (if it’s not against forum’s rule[?]) On the forum or PM to DR people here – some people probably know how to see his full ID in-game.

I think we DR people should definitely report him for botting this time. Received system warning messages several times while idling and doing so these past two weeks. Anet should’ve fixed the auto-healing trick.

As for our spy in IoJ, please troll him (or her) with creative and funny messages, and please do have the screenshots for everyone. (I see none here, or I missed the good old days…) This thread desperately need some fun, I mean real fun, not flame…

PS. Finding Mini Me III may officially or unofficially turn into a mini-game in the game.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Dream In A Dream.7213:

10? You might want to talk to DDLG about that. They had equal numbers. No one was outmanned. And it was nonstop. For hours. We actually stopped earning Wxp for a good while. StoneVale will live again. Bloodiest supply camp in the game.

SiLENT.2346:

Dream In A Dream.7213:

“locking down a zerg” “vs smaller numbers” “without own support”
I really don’t think you understand what those phases mean because:

There was AT least 50 DR outside that camp spread out from the entrance to the camp to the entrace of bay akittens biggest until you all got tired of dying(as was obvious when all kills stopped giving any form of wxp) and left except for the few that stayed behind in the last few minutes of the fight
OR
Is that why yall didnt manage to flip anything the whole time you had us “locked down”. Hell FC did better then yall and TOOK STONEMIST while yall had everyone there fighting us. Yall couldnt even get a small group to go flip that tower.
OR
Is that why I counted AT LEAST 10 Arrow carts and 3 Ballistas that got built outside that camp as you tried so hard to push in and take it.

Ill let you take your pick of why you are wrong.

urbanevil.7145:

Le sigh… This is why i try not to post in this thread, but it keep’s ripping me back! There were roughly 20 [HARD] member’s last night actually coordinating on vent, now as with any group your gonna have pug’s tag along (safety in numbers), we even tryed to have someone else command so we could move in relative silence. My point is the start of this thread was “LOL IOJ ZERG blah blah blah”, followed by “lol where’s this footage, post it then!”, which i have. I blatantly showed DR’S zerg in NA PRIMETIME (EST for the record, baltimore STAND UP) getting whacked, that FC happened to show up was more of a random occurence. At one point we had a decent size FC force (15-20 maybe? FC can prolly confirm) at our back’s while dealing with a 40+ DR zerg in our front. We post footage to back-up our claim (i have another 2 gig’s easy), and then it’s “omg u were smashing small group’s”, i call BS. At the fight otuside of bay there was easily 50+, and when we capped bay prior, we had a 50+ dr zerg and a FC zerg of how many i have no clue (the holy lag part), but it was enough to bring my machine to a crawl.

I especially quote…

urbanevil.7145:

My point is the start of this thread was “LOL IOJ ZERG blah blah blah”

I don’t know if you’re referring to my post(s) and other people’s posts derived from there on the first two pages in this thread, but now, I’m sorry, again…

playard.6035:

Eh, does anybody here or there realize that NA “prime time” on Friday after reset is 9am-3pm on Saturday in UTC +0800 timezone? Did I make my point earlier? And after the “NA prime time” or few hours after that, it’s Asia/Oceanic “prime time”, which I, or we, have no problem about that.

Time difference might be mindkitten for a lot of people…

So, bear with me, I just want to (tried and try to) make my point clear…

Sunday night, during 23:02~23:40 NA Eastern Time / 20:02~20:40 NA Pacific Time,
is NA prime time -> it’s Monday afternoon, 14:02~14:40, in UTC +0800 timezone

NA prime time on Friday after reset is 09:00~15:00 on Saturday in UTC +0800 timezone

Unless our friends down there (no offense! if any) don’t play during weekend daytime, or, IoJ have overlapped playerbases after WvW reset through weekend.

So, the zerg you’re referring to here, last night, is different from the zerg we, our people, saw and were talking about in the first two pages. Also your people mentioned some new blood into WvW. I’m not going to argue this with you tho. We may have some, too, but somehow I feel we are pretty much the same, even lose some old faces…

Still, there are a lot of IoJ last night at your NN camp, our SW camp, and maybe also SS camp. It’s Monday afternoon, regular weekday in Oceania. Your Oceanic people are most likely not online.

And, frankly, some IoJ people really successfully kitten ed our people, and/or (even?) me(?) off… please check my peaceful first post here, and maybe…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/2135180
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-IoJ-DR-FC/2140796

I am not surprised that all our hardcore or even softcore WvW players during that time, NA prime time, were there (and/or somewhere else earlier) having some fun with you. I WP to Hills in the middle of the fight in your clip for watching FC in our east, and, yea, refreshing sieges.

Lastly, thank my DR friends for sending me gold. XD

PS. Bear with me, I cannot help…

urbanevil.7145:

Last post in this thread lol…

Well, I know.

urbanevil.7145:

DR complain’s about zergs?
Hmmmm… what’s this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lr1coSMD-w

May I suggest that… next time, please provide more contexts in the first place, such as time/timezone and place, either on the clip title, in description section, or in the forum post.

So… nearly all of these in your clip happened last night, Sunday night, during 23:02~23:40 NA Eastern Time (/20:02~20:40 NA Pacific Time). Am I correct?

(I have no idea why you people were playing fireworks at spawn intriguingly at 22:59 at the end of the clip tho [ http://youtu.be/1Lr1coSMD-w?t=7m36s ] )

urbanevil.7145:

Not made to showcase my thief, more made to highlight the fact DR whine’s about zerg’s then get’s there zerg’s WRECKED when we u know… actually show up in there BL for a bit..

^ Just insert to provide some contexts, I have some difficulty understanding the paragraph at first actually…

……grrr, to be continued…

No good, dear DR. No good.

Some people may understand what I’m referring to. I wiretapped the TS channel earlier while claiming lands, aka sentries, in IoJ BL for daily, and I’m totally with you…

I had made my point earlier here and before (in previous matches) regarding the issue and also developed some defenses or excuses for people or myself.

I’m not a server, forum or flame warrior, heck! I’m an animal loving ranger, and I’ll stop right here. It’s not fun at all.

Elementalist Owner.7802:

playard.6035:

Ref:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1890887
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1892805

Thank you for posting that, I didn’t feel like fetching my post all the way back from April

I got the screenshots’ metadata, and just used keyword search in that thread… plus, oh, Anet forums provide permalinks.

Joycey.7205:

Ah yes that was who I was referring to. Somebody just assumed that we had a spy just because we’re organized enough to move around as a guild ? That account and none of the other “mini mes” were in our roster, AND we sorted that out with one of the DR guild leaders. So you can say that we had spies all you want. I’m not even going to start on the Belittled BS.

Did you miss the DECOY part there? or, well, you do have manpower, aka numbers, scouting everywhere~ (but scouting and sieges refreshing everywhere are not that fun and rewarding, you know… )

Joycey.7205:

Not like we need spies in the first place

So ture!

Hopefully, these are now history, hopefully…

Joycey.7205:

Elementalist Owner.7802:

Haven’t seen any spies this match, but I know for a fact that in previous matches you guys have sent spies (HARD officer admitted to it)

If you’re referring to when we had a guildie TRANSFER for map completion, or when another guildie found and reported a bug for how to get into citadels (which was a known bug at that time), or when some random person saw a “spy” and just assumed they were affiliated with us, when we can prove they weren’t in our roster, and the guild leaders discussed it; then I think you need to look-up the meaning of “spies”.
Otherwise please enlighten me on any other supposed instances =)

I was too lazy to finish processing and posting these screenshots then. I had told and asked people about it to raise their attention, or maybe they were all aware of it themselves.

It seems that Anet somehow did their job and fixed this in these 2-3 weeks, now you get kicked from WvW using the same trick and being idle.

(screenshots were taken between 4/22~4/25)

Ref:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1890887
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/4-19-DH-DR-IoJ/1892805

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

From an objective point of view (imagine you’re on any server in the match right now), is this not a better match up than any of us have seen in months?

Yes. Indeed it is. Dr is doing work. FC is doing work. IoJ….is doing work.

I’d like to take this moment to thank Anet for finally giving us low tier strugglers a kitten decent match instead of months of more struggle mode.

/lol

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/26-4-DR-NSP-GoM/
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/5-3-DR-NSP-GoM/

Speaking of narrow-minded earlier?

playard.6035:

Irishhaf/Deritt, sorry, I was dumb. I’m with you now.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

playard.6035:

Well, you are definitely not the same IoJ we were facing in T6 weeks or months ago.

Same server. Just a more equal match as there is no mega population server camping us both. Sorry it’s not working out the way you hoped.

A 9k lead on ya’s and we’re not even bothering FC much. Except their garrison. Ahh…the naysayers that said they’d roll IoJ without us having DH to “hide behind”.

For those Forum Warriors..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwwY9y6O3hw

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVVZaZ8yO6o

Well here we are again (Flame Wars 2)
(Flame war) It’s always such a pleasure
Remember when you tried to kill (not only) me (more than) twice?

Oh how we laughed and laughed
Except I wasn’t laughing
Under the circumstances, I’ve been shockingly nice

You want your free WXP and points?
Take it~
That’s what I’m counting on

I used to want you kitten
but
Now I only want you gone…

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This should be a farewell song at the end of the WvW week tho.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

irishhaf.1692:

Fair enough you dont see it as chest thumping… I think most were pointing at Crimsons comment about turning ferg blue after Dr logged off…

Either way people will see what they want to see im done for the night peace.

I do believe you should read the original post again, and work on your comprehensive reading/interpretation skills my friend.

I went through all the posts again. I’m sorry that English is not my mother tongue, so I might get something completely wrong, or misunderstood some deep profound humour, sarcasm or puns.

But this clip particularly, after your comments up there…

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

For those Forum Warriors..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwwY9y6O3hw

With that tone and quite (successful) annoying acting, what were you expecting??

That’s why I replied with the song clip and modified lyrics, and I tried to explain or present my arguments clearly later. Apparently I should save all my crap and maybe just end there directly with the face…

Eh, does anybody here or there realize that NA “prime time” on Friday after reset is 9am-3pm on Saturday in UTC +0800 timezone? Did I make my point earlier? And after the “NA prime time” or few hours after that, it’s Asia/Oceanic “prime time”, which I, or we, have no problem about that.

Time difference might be mindkitten for a lot of people… I frequently have to calculate and check my family and my close friends’ local time in New York, London, Groningen (Netherlands), Berlin, and home. Sometimes I still get it all wrong.

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This is my LONG story…

Last night after reset (6pm~11pm PDT), I formed a party with another solo sieger, who is now in an one-man guild. I claimed the Garrison for my small guild and put buffs on it (after we defeated FC and IoJ at inner south tho, I’m just a new officer). I focused on Garrison’s sieges and upgrades then, running back and forth from NN camp to Garrison via NE, helped my party member and Bukems (at the bottom of page 2 here \~/ ) setting up decent sieges (ACs and even with a treb) in NE tower.

I ordered the walls and doors for Garrison, and someone ordered the 2nd worker in between. My Sylvari ele partner then went to Hills sieging it up. After I’ve done most of my works (building, refreshing) in north, I offered my help with another new party member to her (for she being female Sylvari named after “flower” in Welsh language).

She has finished some sieges at Hills, and wanna add 1 or 2 more ACs to strengthen south Hills. We fought with few others for NE camp on the way to north Hills , then, bang! we bumped into an easily 25+ IoJ group (orange swords later, immediately) near the road junction to Hills north gate. She and the other thief party member managed to sneak through the crowds. However, even with some proper sieges, we eventually lost our Hills. Small and large IoJ groups were everywhere in DR BL last night, in south, at Bay, at Hills, at NW tower, at NE tower…

Right, we were not outmanned, but we lost to a huge number of IoJ, which I’ve never seen before (hence earlier posts), and I think there were at least 30-40+ IoJ in our BL. We didn’t fight stupidly, at least 4-5 tactical-minded siegers on map setting up sieges to help our team. Still, we lost badly. (Some of our borderland defense people may argue that last night we had serious problems with commanding and following tho.)

I logged out and went to bed at 11pm. It was not so much fun, for me, running all around, trying to get through the zerg to man the sieges, fighting a rather large group, or roaming (kill yaks and nodes) then got jumped or chased by 5-man guild group.

Woke up around 4am, took a peek into WvW map. Somehow our people almost recovered our homeland, and Garrison was still claimed by my guild. Theoden, Alkmst, and McDingus were on the map. Nevertheless, we lost our entire map to IoJ 90mins later.

I was so frustrated last night and this early morning. The most frustrating part was after we lost our map this morning, someone in TS shouted at two of us stayed at Hills trebbing SE tower and reporting the progress in the map chat – we both were actually in the BL channel. I placed Hills superior treb and the superior AC guarding it earlier with the help of all hands on the map. I and we, our small group, got wiped by 10-15+ IoJ earlier and later. The trebber was on all night after reset, and I was so tired of all the fights recently.

Then I checked the forum…………

Personally I spent 35-40+ skill points on superior sieges this week and in recent weeks, also the silver and gold sunk into camps, towers, and keeps upgrades. I don’t know if it’s something or nothing. However, I’ve hit my own siege limits and I am now kinda bored and broke. (People who know me, I am still much richer than before, ie. 5G then xD)

(^ TL; DR. then please read the following)

I guess that now I need to find myself some fun with my WvW buddies on the field. Fun is the keyword, rather than points. (still sad to see something blue tho)

I’m so glad that FC actually have fun with DR people from [SoCo] on reset night. I paid a visit to your camps around noon with my former guildie, now a mesmer in [EDGE]. We two left IoJ BL and went there because you were playing in DR’s south yard. Had a blast at NW camp defending it from your small group several times in a span of maybe 10mins.

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Eh, why am I writing all these?! Send, anyway.

Edit: add screenshots at 04:02 and 05:42, Saturday early morning, NA Pacific Time.

Tukmolytes.3467:

I warned you all about the whiner.

BTW, did you like the spawn camping in EB? Whahahahahaha! Maybe you need to purposedly get down a tier again? Whahahahahaha!

playard.6035:

Irishhaf/Deritt, sorry, I was dumb. I’m with you now.
– http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVVZaZ8yO6o

Well, here we are again
It’s always such a pleasure…

Tukmolytes.3467:

I have nothing against good people of DR here. I respect you guys if you don’t whine.

IoJ always been third and we never whine. We took it like a man and train ourselves to be better.

FC, if you will be good, you might be second. Just a hint.

By your definition, am I a good, bad, okay, or just noob/numb/dumb person?
Can you provide some positive DR role model for me? Deeply appreciated.

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BTW, I’m now in a beautiful place called Canada with lovely maple leaf on the flag, although somehow Canucks share the same int’l country calling code with Yankees…

Advent.6193:

Time to ask what many of us are thinkin’

Where’s my score update?

-> http://mos.millenium.org/na
or, even better -> http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/734

It’s live.

Lord Rager.8543:

you thought DH zergs were big…… OMFG GoM/NSP 3 way in SM had everyone spamming 234567890 and hopeing 1 would go off. Never had i ever had skill lag against DR/IoJ or ioj/sf. Gates of Zerging or Zerging Shiver Peaks.

Hey, you met the almighty zombie army from GoM? and, uh, well, NSP? Just watch your back and stay alert!

Lord Rager.8543:

Pro tip since IoJ did night cap us at times but we tend to slow them down by trying to only hold what we could with what numbers we had. say thing like IOJ INC SM +30 4golems at SE outer will help get a few there to slow them down as others come.

Thanks for the tip, however it didn’t work last night and this early morning… :-/

Some poor tip for you: beware of the flame golems! It’s a new religion our ethnologists discovered, discussed and announced in our eminent map chat seminar.

EFWinters.5421:

Why DR? Everyone knows you have the numbers and coverage to beat them.

I myself would like to see you go up against EB, SoS or maybe BP. I think a lot of people on your server would realize by then you are not much more than another zergling server without much going for you but numbers.

Are we here talking about some ancient history before the dawn of history?

This is my last memory about EBay and BP (I was there somewhere)
– http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOAkBnkHDZQ

Also somehow I think I met SBI once months ago?

Noob on the ancient DR history here, please enlighten me ._.