Guild Wars 2

ekleenex.1654:

It’s always so surprising how different sides interpret fights so differently.

By reading some of these posts you would think WFD are some kind of tactical geniuses. What you didn’t see was Watching Friends Die turn tail and run most of the night, until they got at least +15-20 more to their numbers to back them up, which they all still died in the end. WFD really should remove the semi-hardcore notation they gave themselves, every time I hear that I can’t stop laughing, the thought of it is just absurd. One or two mentions and suddenly WFD is like, someone knows we exist guys! OMGOMGOMGOMG semi-hardcore #2013WFDGoingTier1JBYOLOLOL! Which was totally awesome, don’t get me wrong I saw WFD man up like, 1-2 days after that then they realized calling themselves semi-hardcore didn’t actually make them any better, and slowly trickled back to their old game style, running.

Anyways, getting that off my chest was worth an infraction. Hope to see [WAR] out there tonight! The only guys we look forward to fighting and we didn’t get to bump into them yesterday.

Lol. He mad.

I thought it was hilarious that we setup 3 trebs and were able to get the wall down to 10% before ya’ll wiped us! That was awesome. Keep up the good work Borlis Pass!

tiramisu.8706:

BlackBeard.2873:

Fxncy.2398:

Why does BP keep saying we are fighting for second? You are fighting for last.. “We don’t want second anyway” stop whining and play, we come to your BL because Kalkz whispers us to go away so we come and fight them instead. To all you good players in BP: Keep it up you guys deserve better. (We also took Ebay bay on reset tonight and got a decent fight with them, it isn’t that we are afraid, join our server and find that out and stop suggesting and assuming random stuff to make you feel better.). It is WvW have fun please so the rest of us can enjoy the game.

I’d like to second what Kaedrin said, AR’s WAR was pushing on EBay BL all last night, and have been making a lot more pushes into the EBay BL as a whole. You have had the “blitzkrieg” advantage for a few weeks or having such good offense that you can abandon defense, thus fueling more offense.

In fact, last night, we even left EB while we had the outmanned buff to attack you guys. We managed to take Bay before getting wiped by a ~30 man Seks team at Overlook (lost a lot of good golems that day!). Also, I know Seks likes to pretend they only have 10-15 (or 20 people max) on WvW, the numbers just don’t match up. You also have to account for all the extra followers you get and people not signed into TS when you do your accounting. You benefit from your reputation pulling more people in. That being said, your strategies are very effective and you are coordinated.

Keep up the give and take, fellas!

-We’re not a big guild.

-Guildies can only raid with the group if they use mumble.

-The benefit of not using the commander tag, we’ll only pull about 6 people with us. If you guys get zerged it’s cause you let that orange X stay in the same place too long.

-Half the guild list WVW consistently / the other half joins us bi-weekly. 30 Sekz team doesn’t exist.

Tira,

Not starting something here… but I’ve seen a commander tag on one of the Rekz people in the past. You may not run with one often, but I have seen one (though it could be that weird bug where it shows you as a commander when you’re not). Other than that, once in a while I do bump into just you guys – the result is mostly the same unless we catch you off guard (which is surprisingly difficult).

Kioso.4819:

Well that lasted all of 10 minutes…

9 minutes…

Gorefiend.9675:

tas.6310:

I’m breaking up with you Gorefiend.9675, our relationship is over! I can’t take it anymore… it’s making me cry every time I look at you.

Stop skirting around the bush….answer the question so I can make fun of you even more.

prepares overly emotional voice It’s over! You and I had a good thing going and then you had go to and ruin it! I can’t believe you treated me this way after how sweet you were when we started.

Gorefiend.9675:

I still want to know if tas is talking about arrow carts…

I’m breaking up with you Gorefiend.9675, our relationship is over! I can’t take it anymore… it’s making me cry every time I look at you.

Gorefiend.9675:

I am beginning to wonder if you read others post as half of your statements were already responded to.

tas.6310:

We have no foundation to state to Anet to ban these people that are exploiting… here’s why:

Again, never stated the course of action I expect until a few posts ago. Which that was to just question around to try to get to the bottom of it.

tas.6310:

What eBay wants to see is an official PR release saying that Borlis Pass does not condone exploiting? It’s been done before.

It certainly is not on the Borlis forums. Care to show me where this is?

For the ps, if it is the situation I believe you are talking about this is a perfect example. We investigated that accusation ourselves. I remember a group of people trying to see if it was at all possible to get in that way by trying to recreate it.

Last note, it is obvious now that you will not budge from your definition of proof,(however wrong it may be :P) so this is not going to go anywhere.

For the PS, you didn’t investigate at all. You replied saying “That’s intended to destroy seige”. I actually just went back to where they were… ANet restructured the entire area. I had witnessed it happen on two separate occasions (FTF guild specifically).

At any rate, it doesn’t matter. You’ve clearly stated you have no proof. As I previously suggested, report them and stop dragging our name around in the mud. As for the official statement on our own server boards… I laugh if you think that’s the only method we have of communicating

rocky.8602:

Stone.6751:

Gorefiend.9675:

Stone.6751:

Well, my explanation is rather simple; I don’t know that your observations are accurate. Link us the video so we can see what you’re taking about. One that shows us some proof. Otherwise its just an assumption on your end. Is it not?

The only assumption being made is you believing what we are saying to be false. Which is fine if you believe the world to be out to get you I guess.

No, you are wrong again. You clearly stated no direct proof, or have put none forth, thus you are assuming. I’m simply not taking your assumption as a fact.

I, myself, as well as fellow guild mates have seen people from BP using warping exploits (similar to those used in PVE for node farming) to get into keep in WvW this past week. Do we have proof? I do not because they warped out to quickly for me to screen shot.

As to the mesmer exploit, I have no comment on that. I don’t know that has been used. The warping exploit/hack, however, I can attest to. I’ll make sure to video more of my wvw adventures this week in case I can catch it again if you need that sort of proof.

Proof is what we need, however, there’s a reason that the official rules of the forums state not to post proof on the forums. Submit it to Anet and get the people banned. The only thing I care about is some people slinging mud at Borlis Pass and stating that we’re backing up exploiters.

This is not the case. We have no foundation to state to Anet to ban these people that are exploiting… here’s why:

1) We don’t know their names, their accounts or their identities.
2) If we had this information, we don’t know the times of these occurances.
3) If we had all of the information in the world related to this we would do the same thing you are doing… report them.

What eBay wants to see is an official PR release saying that Borlis Pass does not condone exploiting? It’s been done before. We don’t encourage it, we do not ask for it (as a server), and anyone caught doing it amongst myself and many other reputable people are reported and submitted to Anet just as you yourself are doing.

P.S. I have screenshots of eBay guild [FTF] exploiting into a fully upgraded Hills from a while back. I posted those and was shortly thereafter infracted for it. Should I start the war of “Ebay is an exploiting server!” too? I have uhh… 12 screenshots of that incident. Do you encourage exploiting?

Gorefiend.9675:

tas.6310:

All these accusations are from one person. You.

Then you are woefully out of the loop.

Remember my last post? It was about you calling the entire BP server an exploiting server. I may be woefully out of the loop but you seem incistent on dragging the Borlis Pass server name through the mud and calling us exploiters. I find this insulting because you, as well as the rest of the eBay community, know that’s not true. All you do is sling mud at the wall and hope it sticks.

You want us to report Kalkz as an exploiting person because you say so. Because you, someone who didn’t see, watch, witness, or have any established record of knowing for a fact that it happened, say so. Kalkz is a commander of Borlis Pass. Kalkz has established a very… unusual… reputation on this forum. Let me pose a question to you – is it possible that you’re simply trying to ruin Kalkz name so that you have less competition for the “PvDoor” scenario?

Gorefiend.9675:

Rdrodriguez.3204:

First off, I do not condone using exploits. I am a BP citizen. Had I been there and this was in fact an abuse of an exploit, I would report it. However, I was not there. Very few people were there who can attest to the details you are putting forth. Right now, most of the posts on this matter are heresay. Did it really only take 30 seconds? Was there really no mesmer? I think I’ll give my commander the benefit of the doubt considering there is enough reasonable doubt here and I have never seen or even heard an accusation prior to this about Kalkz using exploits.

This is your problem BP. At most you are only willing to say that you yourself do not condone it. How about putting up a PSA condemning any actions or question the people being accused. At some point you have to think that there may be something to all these accusations.

All these accusations are from one person. You.

Gorefiend.9675:

tas.6310:

Oh wait… wait wait wait… now you’re saying you didn’t SEE them exploit in but that since you THINK it was taken within 30 seconds it had to have been?

I understand now.

Still waiting for your reasoning to how that situation could have happened.

Did you watch them exploit in?

Gorefiend.9675:

Stone.6751:

Wrong. Expecting us to turn on a well known commander whim no one has seen a hint of dishonesty from because two people can’t believie he captured their keep is nothing more than amusing. There is zero proof other than some assumptions, and that doesn’t really pass the reliability test.

Then let me hear your reasoning for how a keep could be taken within 30 seconds without taking down any doors/walls or having a hidden mesmer?

Notice, it was taken with 30 seconds of it going contested.

Oh wait… wait wait wait… now you’re saying you didn’t SEE them exploit in but that since you THINK it was taken within 30 seconds it had to have been?

I understand now.

eBay cracks me up. They claim their keep defense is impeccable and has no flaws of any kind. I was there last night, NA primetime with 14 of my guys and 3 pugs. We walked up to Hills south and built a superior ballista, demolished your defensive seige within a minute and then built two superior rams. Hills had 1100 supply. We had the door to 10% (a few minutes standing around) before ya’ll even considered responding.

Why do I bring this up? This was during your primetime! We were spotted IMMEDIATELY but yet we were almost in before anyone thwarted our response. What I find funny is “OH we would have seen the golems. We would have seen everything happening” but yet… if I built a golem at the gate you wouldn’t have noticed. DURING PRIMETIME!

Hahahahaha. I laugh.

P.S. I’m not saying it wasn’t exploiting, I’m saying that if it was and you reported them, ANet will handle it. It’s their business to take care of it.

KingTruffle.1752:

As someone who has GM’d for other MMOs in the past, I find the idea that a guild would be disbanded for an (arguably) inappropriate name completely absurd and ham fisted.

There’s no reason a GM could not simply force rename a guild and then have the leader petition with a new one.

Sadly, knowing how this business works, I doubt they will ever admit any fault in this situation, but I hope that at some point they reconsider this absurd policy. I. Have heard other disappointing examples of Anet policy, but this is by far the worst.

I think they have about as much control over everything in game as a GM does over his/her guild. Er… that’s not saying much. I really hope that one day they will expand all of their tools.

On an interesting side note: they can’t delete a specific item and re-create another specific item (even though it’s easy to get that item ID). I honestly think that they sacrificed some of the admin stuff to push out better “clean” content for the players.

Kodiack.2783:

Grats to the WFD zergball that was running around causing mayhem in ARBL last night.

-K

Hehehe we only had 32 or 33 of us for a short period of time. The rest of time we were normalized around 25 or so. We do like to cause a bit of mischief! Did ya’ll have fun too?

Wizardauz.3761:

[snip] We’re nothing too special of right now, and certainly not the champions of Ehmry Bay compared to the other guilds that do consistent work on the server. [FTF] / [GH] / [pk] / [CoS] / [Sekz] / [PUNK] / [Imtl] and alot of others (sry for not getting em all) that have been here since the beginning deserve that credit haha.

Sekz wasn’t with you originally… they were with NSP and before that they were with another server… just a heads up. GF, sounds like you’ve gotten some mad props here – I’d like to run into you a few more times once in a while and see how we fare. We usually run with 18-20 (unless it’s a good night like last night). Do you bring similar numbers?

Dark Aidget.3879:

Gratz to AR for a game well played this week. Lotta folks will prolly waste energy trying to explain why BP lost, but the truth is, we just couldn’t catch you. This one’s yours fair and square.

Agreed. Think we’re just relaxing and taking the game less serious.

I think they should provide another incentive… +5 supply to each point owned on the map (NOT world) per minute plus maybe an exterior incentive such as +3% WXP across the entire map (and maybe add a bit more WXP to those who defend since it occurs less). This would allow for a two fold inclusiveness:

1) Both offense AND defense would be interested in keeping it. Offense wants the +3% WXP and defenders want the bonus supply across the map.
2) Other towers would receive upgrades if you were able to defend the tower but not protect the yak’s from the massive 90 people zerg roaming around.

Appears as though there is nothing left to say. With that in mind, some intense fighting this week – I really appreciate AR and eBay putting up one heck of a fight. Looking forward to another round of fun and Sekz.

LAD will resolve this issue. I’m impressed that there have been this few of reports over the last few matches. EDGE is a great group… sounds like they recently recruited a few individuals that may not be the best.

ekleenex.1654:

Oozo.7856:

PenguiNet.3420:

Who’s leading that [WFD] guild running around? You’re as bad as the rest of BP’s commanders…leaving your servermates behind while you run away/desperately spam the waypoint. LOL

Hey now, WFD claims to have wiped GF/ECHO twice with even numbers.

/snicker

We miss you AD!

I will give kudos to WFD, they manned up when they got GOAT to back them up, you should have seen how excited they were they finally had enough to wipe us… We were done for… Except FTF/GH came in and evened it up, and then everyone died.

I also had fun when we were running circles around WFD so we could take garrison, I think GOAT was the only people who realized that it was a trick.

Haha why does it always come down to numbers? Ya’ll act like we had a chance when you were running around with 45 and we had 25! I’m impressed you feel this threatoned by us… it’s comforting to know that you know who we are now. Thank you for the recognition! Keep it coming!

PenguiNet.3420:

tas.6310:

PenguiNet.3420:

Who’s leading that [WFD] guild running around? You’re as bad as the rest of BP’s commanders…leaving your servermates behind while you run away/desperately spam the waypoint. LOL

Haha you appreciated that one, didn’t ya? We stuck you with RI for 4 minutes while we took back some other stuff

Sometimes the only way out is the way you don’t think about. Oh… P.S. ya’ll bring some SERIOUS numbers to the tables on reset! I’m very impressed!

took you a while to think of an excuse for running away. “took back some other stuff”…what are you talking about lol? we wiped you from EBBL and then we wiped you from your own BL.

@Kalkz…lol wiping pK? gimmie a break…have you seen EBG map? it’s all green. if you’re wiping anything, you’re not very effective at it lol.

Hehe, of course it does. Nobody can compete with your l33t skillz and awesome forum posting while playing the game and wiping everyone off the face of the earth!

Oh… and we took a few camps… you didn’t see those blips of blue? Nah… you’re not focused on that. You want to kill!

PenguiNet.3420:

Who’s leading that [WFD] guild running around? You’re as bad as the rest of BP’s commanders…leaving your servermates behind while you run away/desperately spam the waypoint. LOL

Haha you appreciated that one, didn’t ya? We stuck you with RI for 4 minutes while we took back some other stuff

Sometimes the only way out is the way you don’t think about. Oh… P.S. ya’ll bring some SERIOUS numbers to the tables on reset! I’m very impressed!

ekleenex.1654:

GreenSage.3256:

The posters saying BP just needs to step up is right. Sekz just does a ton of stupid stealth / stacking crap that we can easily beat with some good players or good siege at a choke point.

You can’t stack it anymore… and there is no culling…

And I can count on my fingers the times WFD has done anything useful against us. Usually ALS or WAR get the Sekz wipes, don’t go stealing their work!

Late to the party as usual. Thanks for the shout out! Actually… being able to count on your fingers is a good thing. We’re an extremely casual guild and we do this sorta thing for fun. The fact that a casual “ragtag” band of people did ANYTHING at all to your “hardcore zerg-busting” group indicates that we’ve done SOMETHING right!

Glad we could be at your service

Gorefiend.9675:

Scourge.1563:

111, 378 eb / 64,497 bp / 57, 676 dr

I am more interested in the current PPT seeing as it was today last week Borlis decided pvd was fun.

What you do we do

Almostfaceman.1804:

An Omega golem and 4 Alpha golems with 50 people on a Sunday night? We get it Borlis Pass, you really really really really really really really want second place.

:-)

That? That was just Dtc Justice and my friends having a bit of fun. We do love our golems!

That… was an awesome battle in Briar with the golem. We were horribly outmanned (just now in eBay borderlands). Nice job everyone!

I hear that all of BP will be taking a break today to do Guild Missions… or was that yesterday? Jeez sorry guys… I get my days all mixed up. Anyway… I’m sure eBay and DR will be doing the same, I heard it from the grapevine!

[Insert Humor]

Kodiack.2783:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/53714/gw100.jpg

Really?

Where the hell was this BP when you were in T6?

-K

We’re tired of fighting AR. It’s always the same old stuff. Once word gets around that we’re in a new tier… old wrestlers come out for their chance at fresh blood and new tactics.

DR, do you still have Insannoo on BP’s server or did he transfer off once we dropped a tier? I meant to look him up tonight as he and I shared many a great moments when we were facing each other last time. I only ask because my guild and I bumped into RED a few times tonight, sorry to have caused a bit of distress on you. We had a few great rounds – we missed you once you left

AR, I want to thank you for all of the Omega golems you walked into us last night. We destroyed 1 that was attacking Bluebriar and 3 Omega golems you walked in to try and destroy our seige. You’ll be featured in our next video!

bradderzh.2378:

Kalkz.5297:

Kodiack.2783:

“Take a note from BP this week. They are staying out of our way”.

Not really, just another borlisy strategy, i was inside your valley 1 hour ago btw, couldnt cap it

What the hell was that btw. I mean props for having a humongous Zerg and absolutely destroying everything we had, it was literally a sea of red… (well red and green because almost everyone was Upscaled) but seriously? How did you not cap that… Yeah we got some help but it was nowhere near the numbers you guys had.

I just don’t get where you borlis seem to pull all these numbers from, do you go to lions arch and callout “1g for every person that comes to EB and follows me?” or something? To match you guys we have to pull lots of people of all the other maps, and I still hear “30 BP attacking ARBL bay” down TS. It’s mind boggling!

Haha if we did that we would easily have double the numbers. Could queue up the map for hours.

Jscull.2514:

[WFD] Waiting for Death? More like waiting for PAXA

Had lots of fun tonight with ya PAXA, ya’ll have a mighty large group these-days! I’m impressed… think the first week we went up against you we killed you numerous times because of a balance, thesedays it appears you have recruited quite well

We don’t do too bad being a casual WvW and PvE guild that doesn’t require anything

I’ve been advised I should post up the latest video I made for BP here:

http://youtu.be/fEVSklDzKZk

Lots of fun has been had (and this is all featuring battles between the three servers)!

Looks like we were able bring the score a bit closer.

I predict burnout to take effect and sway this match in weird ways throughout the week.

30/20/0/20/0 is what I run. Works very well for survival and damage. Having signets affect me as well as my pet is amazingly powerful. I love 6 second invulnerability.

Shh… quiet… don’t want to say too much here.

Had tons of fun this evening. AR really brought the numbers, we were able to fight em off a few times! Looking forward to more guild wars

So… popped SM open for everyone. Hope ya’ll enjoy feasting over it!

I feel at home now! It’s quite possible with a few more matches this close we’ll all be happier than a complete blowout. I’m impressed with each side so far.

I can tell you… Maguuma, you are very insistent on doing the breakout in BP BL. You threw that commander at us at least 5 times. The first time we were all huddled inside of the tower… after the commotion came the server reacted and we were able to hold the fort down inside and out. Shout out to Diaosho who was helping keep that tower held.

Whew, this is gonna be a fun week! I’m excited.

APEX won’t last long here. We screenshot a lot and report our own exploiters. I will be sure to grab their names and report every one of them. I know most of the server feels the same way.

I’m very curious to see how this next matchup goes. I’m prepared to have a blast! I don’t think we’ll place first, but I know we’ll make it SOMEWHERE on that scoreboard. I hear Mag has a huge presence 24/7 and I read that the other server has a strong presence as well. This next week I feel will be a test on our overnight crew.

Hirasaki.6208:

Good Job on Commander Neural for the perfect defense and all the DH peeps who helped retake Darkhaven from both DB and BP!. Another win for DH tonight!

Excellent job! I’m glad you all took it back. Like I’ve been thinking for the last few days, it has come to light that having a strong third opponent evens the odds for everyone and as a result we (BP) were able to launch a successful counter attack multiple times in our own borderlands. The battle was still raging fiercely when I handed off the reigns, but I can tell you that we were holding our own at the very least.

Great job to everyone today!

Yanno, I honestly think this matchup would be a lot more fun if DH was strong too. I noticed it tonight in Eternal Battlegrounds while commanding (gosh it was fun taking Klovan 5 times)! It seems as though if DH had the numbers to support a full rallying around WvW, DB would be more spread out and BP wouldn’t feel so “targeted.”

I think this is where all of our hatred is generated, it feels like DB is making it personal against BP (even though they clearly go for DH too). I think the difference is, DH is knowing full well they shouldn’t be in that tier. So… what would happen if DH could keep up with us? (They do a heck of a job without a huge population… gotta hand it to them). When they came on Eternal and took back their keep, we were able to go in and take back our entire corner.

DB, do you feel threatened by DH at all?

It appears that DB will have a decent NA population now. Congratulations – may your ride up to tier 3 be proud and loud. Hopefully, one day, we’ll have a decent oceanic population that will compete with even your own. Until then, we’ll be around this tier since it appears that (without you anyway) we belong here.

Borlis Pass is at odds lately. We all have fun but it seems that some have found deeper personal reasons to not coordinate with each other. It happens to everyone at one time or another. While we fight amongst ourselves, we will continue to fight around the world as well. You will find that, during certain periods of time, we are not taking the game as seriously as we were when we got here. We still have a bite, however.

Nah, not yet. I was in BP BL at that time. Ya’ll made a very impressive move on Hills. Had a good 20-25 man zerg. I was commanding and sweating bullets because we didn’t have enough to keep up with you… how’d you like our flank?

Nice to see both EB and DH in BP BL as usual. Glad to have fought you guys… tonight was a blast.

All it takes is a holiday to make us realize how fragile the ecosystem is. Next week will be better, but then we face New Years. We’ll see how things go over the next two weeks before we say BP will be back at Tier 8. If we are, then I look forward to the battles ahead!