Why do the Asura tolerate the Inquest?

Why do the Asura tolerate the Inquest?

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Posted by: wraithguard.5729

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This is something I’ve been thinking about since the very start of my Asura Elementalist. You don’t even have to go outside of Metrica Province to know all you need to about the Inquest. They lie, they steal, they murder, they sacrifice sentient beings for their experiments, they claim other krewe’s plagiarized them when in fact it is the Inquest doing the plagiarizing. Heck, they even openly attack and steal resources from Asura outposts! And you see all of this just in the Asura starting zone! I don’t even have to mention all the other terrible things the Inquest do in other parts of the world.

So why is it that the Asura seem to tolerate all of this? The Inquest are allowed to participate in the Snaff prize contest. The Inquest even have a recruiting station right inside Rata Sum! Their recruiters are allowed to spew their lies to Asura progeny in the heart of Asura territory and it’s left only up to us, the players, to drive them off. Why don’t the Asura just toss out the Inquest from Rata Sum? Is there something in the lore I’m not aware of? Or do the Asura have a reason so genius that my meager brain can’t comprehend it?

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Posted by: Orzwark.2431

Orzwark.2431

Short answer: it’s mostly due to the ridiculous bureaucracy of their society. Nothing the Inquest do is wrong in the eyes of the Arcane Council. Easy to draw analogies to the real world.

Besides, it’s just you, the protagonist, who gets on their bad side and ends up fighting them. Many Asura don’t see them as evil, just efficient.

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Posted by: Routine.6194

Routine.6194

I think Zojja actually explains that in one of the personal story lines – the Inquest may be everything you described: liars, murderers, thieves, but their inventions are genius, which is why the Arcane Council decided to keep them around. Even if a lot of the asura don’t tolerate the Inquest, well, I guess the Council still has the last word in this matter.

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Posted by: Lokai.7850

Lokai.7850

I actually wish we could choose the inquest as a college at the start… i rather like them to be honest.

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Posted by: Zizi.7860

Zizi.7860

I think Zojja actually explains that in one of the personal story lines – the Inquest may be everything you described: liars, murderers, thieves, but their inventions are genius, which is why the Arcane Council decided to keep them around. Even if a lot of the asura don’t tolerate the Inquest, well, I guess the Council still has the last word in this matter.

Much like the reason there’s a Svanir camp in Heolbrak. They may be evil jerks, but you can respect how well they fight. The inquest might be evil jerks, but you have to admit they pull off some serious progress.

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Posted by: Orzwark.2431

Orzwark.2431

I think Zojja actually explains that in one of the personal story lines – the Inquest may be everything you described: liars, murderers, thieves, but their inventions are genius, which is why the Arcane Council decided to keep them around. Even if a lot of the asura don’t tolerate the Inquest, well, I guess the Council still has the last word in this matter.

Much like the reason there’s a Svanir camp in Heolbrak. They may be evil jerks, but you can respect how well they fight. The inquest might be evil jerks, but you have to admit they pull off some serious progress.

The two situations are much alike, yes, but the reasoning is entirely different. Inquest is protected by Asuran laws and governing system that chooses to let their lawless (or rather, amoral) behaviour slide. The Norn don’t even have a government. Their society is made up of individuals. They don’t judge people that are part of a given group based on the group’s reputation. Instead they judge each individual based solely on the individual’s actions. Hoelbrak is a place for hunters to rest and recuperate (and drink and boast, obviously). If someone wants to come there, they are welcome. They are only kicked out if they make trouble.

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Posted by: Embolism.8106

Embolism.8106

The Inquest produce results. The Arcane Council is concerned with one thing only: Asuran domination over all of Tyria. They see the Inquest as the Asura’s best chance of achieving that, and it’s true.

Basically, the Arcane Council itself is very shady. That’s why it allows and even curries favour with the Inquest.

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Posted by: Udolpho.1209

Udolpho.1209

“The ends justify the means.”
— The Inquest

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Posted by: Tinni.4351

Tinni.4351

Basically what everybody has been saying. Asura who are moral do not like the Inquest but the Arcane Council is not moral and don’t even pretend to be moral. I mean, trying to kill each other is considered part of how council politics works. They have a secret police force for crying out loud! With the Arcane Council being so shady themselves, is there any wonder that they turn a blind eye to the Inquest?

That said, the Peacekeepers of Rata Sum do seem to have some measure of independence from the Arcane Council and so they fight the Inquest. Of Course, almost all the Krewes do not like the Inquest and so fight them as best they can.

My brain is shagging under the weight of changes… having six characters was not a good idea!

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Posted by: Embolism.8106

Embolism.8106

In other words, don’t think the Arcane Council necessarily represents Asuran interests as a whole. Remember that members of the Council are either forced into the position (most Asura would rather do research than deal with bureaucracy) or are power-hungry.

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Posted by: Pontianak.9714

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I think Zojja actually explains that in one of the personal story lines – the Inquest may be everything you described: liars, murderers, thieves, but their inventions are genius, which is why the Arcane Council decided to keep them around. Even if a lot of the asura don’t tolerate the Inquest, well, I guess the Council still has the last word in this matter.

The exact lines, spoilered for those that haven’t done the quest yet.


Zojja: If the Inquest want to play rough, we’ll play rough. Possession might be nine-tenths of the law, but the other tenth is my fist!

You: What’s the Inquest’s problem, anyway? Why are they such jerks?

Zojja: They’re completely amoral, bent on world domination, and they only care about results…which they often get. That gives them sway with the Arcane Council, which gives them free run of Rata Sum.

You: But they’re dangerous. And criminal. Why does the council allow them in the city at all?

Zojja: The council is all about long-term asuran supremacy. As long as the Inquest delivers spectacular and effective new inventions, the council turns a blind eye to their worst offenses.

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Posted by: DJRiful.3749

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The very first part of the story between them is like Apple and Samsung patent trolls.

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Posted by: Zesbeer.8365

Zesbeer.8365

The inquest are awesome and if i could i would have picked that as my college.

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Posted by: Nick.3926

Nick.3926

I think it’s because the inquest aren’t bad in the eyes of most Asurans. One of the earlier quests after you decide to save someone instead of going off and killing a guy, Zojja talks about how you are being soft and that it’s not looked highly upon in Asuran culture.
They are a very get it done at whatever costs it takes kind of culture, even if it means killing their own.

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Posted by: Nokturnal.8973

Nokturnal.8973

In one of the personal stories, the Council is actually attacked by killer golems and at the end even though they knew who did it, they didn’t bring them to justice, they just were going to send their own killer golems after them too. Basically, the council sends inventions to kill each other all the time, it’s probably the only reason they like their job. They tolerate the Inquest because hell some of the council is probably a part of the Inquest.

What really annoyed me about the personal story in this game though is the fact that there was no really evil choices. At best you could make your character angry, but still trying to save the world and protect the innocent.

Would’ve loved to have made a necromancer/theif/etc as part of the inquest and had an entirely new story devoted to stopping Destiny’s Edge from succeeding etc. After all everyone the personal stories take place in instances for the most part. Would it have been so hard to let people be evil instead of good?

Anet should’ve let people be evil and join the Inquest, or joined the Flame Legion, the Nightmare Court. (My Sylvari even looks like he belongs in the Nightmare court, but sadly “I’m not allowed to be evil”)

If only just for our personal stories. I’ll write off my hero work while leveling as a means to my evil ends.

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Posted by: Luce.4951

Luce.4951

I think they’re kind of like Slytherin. I personally like them, I mean Asuras aren’t exactly nice people anyway – they treat the Sylvari pretty badly and experiment on practically everything so it makes sense that there’s even a faction that goes even more extreme.

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Posted by: Sprawler.5612

Sprawler.5612

The Arcane Council doesn’t give a hoot what goes on outside of Rata Sum. The Inquest could blow up half of Metrica Province, but its only krewes in Metrica, not working for the Council. So why should they care?
The Asura barely have a government at all. Krewes are expected to keep themselves in order. If they can’t protect themselves from Inquest attacks, it’s their fault. If the Inquest can’t protect themselves from retaliation, it’s their fault. It’s a loose state of individual society. The very first conversation you have is about how ineffectual the Peacemakers are. You basically beat the Arcane Eye to death but the Council doesn’t punish you for it, because they were too weak to stop it. You can consider the Council and the Arcane Eye to be its own large krewe, the krewe devoted to the maintenance and safekeeping of Rata Sum and Rata Sum alone.

Be loyal to your krewe. You don’t have to be loyal to anything else.