Guild Wars 2

Why is this?

I think there should be a full defense stat set. What if I don’t want to do damage?

That would give PvDoor a whole new meaning

What would be the point? You would be useless in PvE and you wouldn’t be able to kill anybody in PvP or WvW.

Have you actually played the game? If you have then there is no logical reason to be asking for this.

obviously the point is to tank. you don’t need to do tons of damage to be useful
nor to have fun, which is the real point.

I want to run around in WvW and see how many people I can have on me without dying.
if you don’t see the possibility for fun in that, I pity you

What is the 3rd tanking stat you plan to get? Vitality, Toughness, and ???

You can already get Soldiers or Sentinals gear. Are you advocating for a Toughness, Power, Vit set?

Yeah I agree, I like building my warrior for tanking and support, and I couldn’t care less what other players think of non-zerk people. I absolutely despise this game’s dungeons anyway so it’s not like you’ll ever see me in your LFzerk groups, heh.

That said, Giver’s (armor) is pretty much a defense+support set. It gives toughness, healing and boon duration. Toughness and healing is a good combo for sustain, although the lack of vitality won’t help you survive burst so there could be better defense gear. Problem is the weapon version is totally different stats so you can’t build entirely in Giver’s and probably have to resort to Soldier, Cleric or Shaman for the other slots.

Atherakhia.4086:

What is the 3rd tanking stat you plan to get? Vitality, Toughness, and ???

You can already get Soldiers or Sentinals gear. Are you advocating for a Toughness, Power, Vit set?

Healing.

You take less damage with toughness, and you regen more with healing. This is especially good with passive healing like regens or Healing Signet.

I’m pretty sure Anet hasn’t introduced a full defense set because they don’t want people trying to run it. I’m sure if they did introduce such a set all the pugs would run it and pugging would become 100% impossible even for the easiest dungeons.

reikken.4961:

obviously the point is to tank.

I stopped right there. You do realize that this game was advertised and based around not having any tanks/healers right?

ODB.6891:

reikken.4961:

obviously the point is to tank.

I stopped right there. You do realize that this game was advertised and based around not having any tanks/healers right?

He just wants Anet to create a whole stat set so he can make a troll build in WvW.

Sevans.4619:

What would be the point? You would be useless in PvE and you wouldn’t be able to kill anybody in PvP or WvW.

You don’t need to kill anybody in WvW to be win.

Giver’s is technically a full defense set… well, the armor anyways. Toughness, boon duration, and healing power. The boon duration helps you keep high uptime of things like protection, regeneration, stability, vigor, &c., so that in itself can be defensive.

Giver’s weapons have different stats (still partially defensive), although I think the exotic giver’s accessories also have these stats. No ascended version, obviously.

If you don’t want to do any damage you should be playing a different game.

healing power, toughness, vitality is what he wants i guess. Id play it if i want to go full support.

ODB.6891:

reikken.4961:

obviously the point is to tank.

I stopped right there. You do realize that this game was advertised and based around not having any tanks/healers right?

except ppl can do just that. They advertised it for many things but the trinity is still there. Just not as based towards one of the 3.

Atherakhia.4086:

What is the 3rd tanking stat you plan to get? Vitality, Toughness, and ???

You can already get Soldiers or Sentinals gear. Are you advocating for a Toughness, Power, Vit set?

Toughness/Vitality/Healing Power would be a nice combo.

I agree wit would be nice for some PURE defensive options.

reikken.4961:

obviously the point is to tank. you don’t need to do tons of damage to be useful
nor to have fun, which is the real point.

I want to run around in WvW and see how many people I can have on me without dying.
if you don’t see the possibility for fun in that, I pity you

The point is that you’re still going to die. A single fully offensive character is going to kill you. You will not outdamage his heal and his offense will punch a hole in your defense, even if it takes a few extra seconds.

It’s pointless and ANet likely isn’t going to waste their time.

Sevans.4619:

The point is that you’re still going to die. A single fully offensive character is going to kill you. You will not outdamage his heal and his offense will punch a hole in your defense, even if it takes a few extra seconds.

It’s pointless and ANet likely isn’t going to waste their time.

That is dependent on both the class as well as the build as to how strong it would be. I think they SHOULD introduce it.

Sevans.4619:

The point is that you’re still going to die. A single fully offensive character is going to kill you. You will not outdamage his heal and his offense will punch a hole in your defense, even if it takes a few extra seconds.

It’s pointless and ANet likely isn’t going to waste their time.

first of all, this is totally false, and second, there are far more “pointless” stat combinations already, so this is already a non-issue

You realize, that about anybody would just ignore you after landing a few hits?

You still won’t be able to defend a camp against a zerg and a roamer just /shrugs and does something else. Points are meaningless anyway.

Mosharn.8357:

ODB.6891:

reikken.4961:

obviously the point is to tank.

I stopped right there. You do realize that this game was advertised and based around not having any tanks/healers right?

except ppl can do just that. They advertised it for many things but the trinity is still there. Just not as based towards one of the 3.

They advertised support, control, and damage I believe. None of that says tanking or healing. People need to open their eyes and realize that support =/= healing. Healing is included in support, but that doesn’t mean that healing is a stand alone job in this game. In addition, the aggro system does not support tanking, so no, people cannot do just that. I get more aggro on my zerk guard than a whole team of pvts. The aggro priority list is listed on the wiki. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aggro

closest target to them
who is dealing damage
top damage dealers
who is using a shield / has more toughness and overall armor
others (see Tanking tactics below)

This is just an excerpt from the wiki on the aggro priority. With that priority, the aggro door will swing constantly….often towards high damage dealers…which is the opposite of people typically building a “tank”.