Guild Wars 2

The game used to be somewhat more control oriented then dps oriented i think most people would run MM discord to get their game done or have a Hero mesmer spam interupt on mobs (always a shine).

Might as well just nerf any combo of weapons and armor that can kill Lupi quicker than two minutes. So all kills will mimic Kyubi’s groups speedruns.

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Might as well just nerf any combo of weapons and armor that can kill Lupi quicker than two minutes. So all kills will mimic Kyubi’s groups speedruns.

Sure you aren’t talking about two hours?

nah we more talking about 3 to 2 minute… its not much time in your day just what it normaly takes to down something that is supose thats actualy be difficult to kill.

I think this kyubi is just jelly ;P

kyubi.3620:

nah we more talking about 3 to 2 minute… its not much time in your day just what it normaly takes to down something that is supose thats actualy be difficult to kill.

In case you can’t figure it out. Any of these speed kills with super fast times, require a lot of planning and a certain amount of Lupi luck. You can’t get 7 7 7 7 runs back to back. It just doesn’t happen that way. Nor can you grab any 5 people with Lupi experience to pull this off.

Its a super outlier extreme case of killing Lupi. Yet you use it as a basis for change… Come on man….. <—-Say that in Chris Carter’s voice.(reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fhCks3bvTdA#t=24)

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

In case you can’t figure it out. Any of these speed kills with super fast times, require a lot of planning and a certain amount of Lupi luck. You can’t get 7 7 7 7 runs back to back. It just doesn’t happen that way. Nor can you grab any 5 people with Lupi experience to pull this off.

Its a super outlier extreme case of killing Lupi. Yet you use it as a basis for change…

I’m trying to put this into his head but he appears stubborn. It’s like he thinks that people are doing that on daily basis.

haviz.1340:

If you think that going to retrait (about 5 minutes to retrait before and after the fight), stack sigils (1-3 minutes), position lupi properly (1 minute) and get good rng (few hours) is faster than just killing him in 1 minute, there’s something wrong with your math. No one fights this boss like it was shown in that clip.

Lupicus was never hard, especially considering that he was solo’d in Dec 2012. So why is he under the impression that the fight should last at least 2 minutes which by the way it does. It’s like saying jet-engines should be banned from being used on certain cars (1228 km/h) because they beat fastest cars by about 800 km/h (500 mph). Makes total sense.

[rT] is a jet engine. I like it.

kyubi.3620:

Silferas.3841:

Congrats kyubi, you are the first person that I have come to truly hate on these forums. You represent everything I loathe in the human race. Your posts are never constructive, all you are trying to do is to shape the game in your image without a single spec of regard for other players.

But to the topic: speedruns are the meta, because there is not enough new content to challenge players to do anything else. Berserkers melt in a matter of seconds when things don’t go right, and unless you are experienced in running the dungeon, things never go right. All that you hate on are guilds and groups that do manage to do the things right, and receive proper rewards for their efforts, which are still sub-par to rewards from open world content which requires no effort other than time investment. You have never backed any of your claims by your own videos and findings, you have ever only hated on things others have done, which you could not.

I wouldnt do it even if i could in the first place. To be honest yes your right i do this because im fighting against something, Glass cannon meta build and yes im doing all in my power to murder it. So yea i gladly provide the dev all proof there is needed if they will actualy burn it to the ground. This is not hate, this is an attempt at freedom

Because i play many build wich are disregarded as useless because of Meta zerker very existance yet still deserve some apreciation. While i do have a meta warrior and a meta guardian i would rather play hammer or dual sword but i cannot. Because play how you want gets you nowhere in this game. Behing shackled by the way a blind community view the game is whats left of a future to actual good player in Guild Wars 2. When i join a decent party and offer to run something what do i get everytime? Pleaaaase run your warrior pleaaaaaaase run your guardian we dont want to have more condition damage or control based unit in our party because its useless.

Im tired of the constant waste of time required on a game where im shackled to playing only 1 role because people are blind to the usefullness of the other specs all this due to the fact damage is king. In every single game including the ones where tank and healer are omnipresent supportive unit have little value save for their ability to heal people. I ran SOS beastmaster and MM in guild wars 1, i wish for that era to come back.

Why am i still playing if im sick of it all? Because i gave up on the constant increasingly boring end game dungeon runs wich doesnt serve any purpose but to stack gold to play alts only now in order to lvl them to 80 and gear them fashionably all while working on my personnal gimmicks and because i keep hoping and fighting for a future where all the builds are equal in the eye of common dungeon runners.

Running a non meta is viable in pug yes… but does it bring you respect? Was any minion master or turret enginer ever praised for his work? Do you guys even respect that staff guardian who keeps buffing you or that elixir enginer who keeps sending boons to the team? No you dont because people all think pets and supportive roles are for noobs and that players like that only deserve the kick button in an organised party.

Its funny how from one side of the forum im fighting for the pets to be actualy competitive and on the other side im fighting to kill the pure zerkers. What im fighting for? To be honest what i want is simply for all build to be equaly effective without discrimination. I want my darn minion master or my turret enginer to hit as hard as the guy next door who run a full glass cannon build but that aint gunna happen right? If i can actualy get glass cannon to be slightly better then pet builds at worse ill likely be fine with the final result but thats not gunna happen as well.

So yes… go ahead and hate on me for hating on the one build everyone including myself play so well it became the only viable build.

As for FGS how about they reinforce all other attack damage save for rush on FSG so to turn it into a burst mode for ele in about a same fashion as the warrior great sword without making it overwelming. That 1 is actualy somewhat interesting

You’re a sad sad person. I want to build a raft and sail down the river of your tears.

Its a super outlier extreme case of killing Lupi. Yet you use it as a basis for change….

The DPS meta isn’t getting changed because of Record Lupi Speed Kills.
It’s because it genuinely needs looking into from a mid-level-play and even new-player-experience perspective.

Stunts like this are just spectacular and interesting examples of our overall balance problems, not the actual reason people think we have a DPS imbalance. They could patch the FGS tomorrow and they’d still have to look into the DPS Meta. So, who cares how frequently it occurs?

Vox Hollow.2736:

Its a super outlier extreme case of killing Lupi. Yet you use it as a basis for change….

The DPS meta isn’t getting changed because of Record Lupi Speed Kills.
It’s because it genuinely needs looking into from a mid-level-play and even new-player-experience perspective.

Stunts like this are just spectacular and interesting examples of our overall balance problems, not the actual reason people think we have a DPS imbalance. The record for Lupi could be ten minutes and the DPS imbalance would still be a major problem for this game. So, who cares how frequently it occurs?

That was to the OP about what this thread is discussing. Not to whatever dps meta agenda argument you bring up. My point, was this thread is meaningless unless pugs can start doing this with ease. Then yes! That would be imba. But when the best players in the game take hours to achieve this.. Well then I don’t see a problem.

Not to whatever dps meta agenda argument you bring up.

/holds hands up in surrender
Hey, don’t look at me. OP clarified his position in a wall of text post on page 2.

But, yeah, I’ll butt out if you want me to.

Let’s all just stop spamming attention for the Op and let this thread die.