Guild Wars 2

Brawler’s Recovery: Remove blindness when you swap weapons.

Let me start by saying that I appreciate the fact that the devs have acknowledge how huge of a pain blind is for Warriors and I like that they want to give us a way to combat the ever annoying D/P Thieves. HOWEVER, this trait is very underwhelming overall. For a Grandmaster trait it’s only useful against 2-3 builds. Not to mention the anti-blindness this is offering won’t be that useful against the builds in question because they rapidly apply said blindness. If it was a period of invulnerability then sure it would be somewhat worthwhile but a single cleanse on swap? No.

It would be nice to have some sort of side benefit that wasn’t reliant on fighting a specific type of build. What this would be I’m not really sure but seeing as it’s called “Brawler’s” maybe have it buff Physical Utility skills or Rampage in some way (I really want a reason you use more than just Bull’s Charge).

Welcome to a necromancers world. In our world every second trait or skill is purely based on your enemy and on the situation / the enemy build.

uses great amounts of willpower not to bring up Rangers

Ok. Yep you are right, it is at best a blind clear every 5 secs. It is useless.
But if it was invulni, it would be OP.

I know! Hands, so when single weilding a 1h weapon, you get a 10% damage bonus ’cause you punch um in the face (not animated). That there, is build diversity.

Both of you are pulling the “my main is worse so you don’t deserve nice things” card it feels like. That isn’t Warrior’s fault and just because they are well off currently doesn’t mean they can’t be further improved. Hopefully someday we’ll reach a point where everything has at least SOME use. It’s not my job as a Warrior main to worry about other classes, I just want my main to be as complete as it can be.

After I went through all that trouble of not mentioning Ranger you accuse me of only thinking of Ranger. Cruel Man.

I have a warrior too. A class that you talk about most, or play the most doesn’t define you. We are all just players, and we all have different styles. The profession we play should be the least interesting part of our play style.

Furthermore, I’m not saying that your traits have to be junk. I even said that I agreed that that trait was junk. Read, and don’t assume please.

I also did say that your invulni idea would be OP. Even if it was 1 second, you have 5 second weapon swaps. The fact that you think this is “grandmaster worthy” makes me wonder how many GM traits in this game do you find worthy?

If it was even just a general 1 condition cleanse I would be worried about it. 1 condition per 10 seconds is the rule of the thumb from what I’ve seen, there are only a few better.

However, if I look at it in perspective, I wouldn’t even bother taking it as a cleanse because I already have everything I need on my warrior build, including cleanse. I hope that speaks volumes in itself. The choices are lackluster because you have solid other choices. This is disappointing, but more than others can say.

Btw, if you don’t care about other classes, then why are you bringing this up on the balance forum, in which most things are compared between classes?

It’s a gimmicky hard counter to certain builds that exist or may exist, that adds nothing to warrior gameplay.

What’s not to like?

An adept-at-best trait introduced as a Grandmaster trait?

The Ranger community is shocked that such a thing could happen. Shocked I say .

Nike.2631:

An adept-at-best trait introduced as a Grandmaster trait?

The Ranger community is shocked that such a thing could happen. Shocked I say .

You beat me to it The Warrior class has officially been rangered.

Snow.2048:

After I went through all that trouble of not mentioning Ranger you accuse me of only thinking of Ranger. Cruel Man.

I have a warrior too. A class that you talk about most, or play the most doesn’t define you. We are all just players, and we all have different styles. The profession we play should be the least interesting part of our play style.

Furthermore, I’m not saying that your traits have to be junk. I even said that I agreed that that trait was junk. Read, and don’t assume please.

I also did say that your invulni idea would be OP. Even if it was 1 second, you have 5 second weapon swaps. The fact that you think this is “grandmaster worthy” makes me wonder how many GM traits in this game do you find worthy?

If it was even just a general 1 condition cleanse I would be worried about it. 1 condition per 10 seconds is the rule of the thumb from what I’ve seen, there are only a few better.

However, if I look at it in perspective, I wouldn’t even bother taking it as a cleanse because I already have everything I need on my warrior build, including cleanse. I hope that speaks volumes in itself. The choices are lackluster because you have solid other choices. This is disappointing, but more than others can say.

Btw, if you don’t care about other classes, then why are you bringing this up on the balance forum, in which most things are compared between classes?

No offense, but saying that you’re holding back the urge to not bring up Ranger is in effect bringing up Ranger.

I should also clarify, it wouldn’t be a blind invulnerability on every swap, but once hit by a blind you get a certain duration of immunity on a ICD. The whole appeal of a weapon like this would be the ability to stand in a Black Power field and deny the stealth. Overall, this is a trait aimed at ONE build more-or-less. Yes, Guardians have a blind build but compared to Thief they’re not as obnoxious and are avoidable. It could also work for Plague as well but again it’s not that amazing and that we both agree on.

I think many traits that are designed around the opponents playstyle could use other benefits, if they’re GM level at least. Adept and even Master traits can be more specific but for high ranking traits no one in their right mind is going to take this over Burst Mastery. Also….I really want a reason to use Rampage because it’s actually I really fun elite so having some sort of buff to it would be nice.