Guild Wars 2

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I play a guardian, this class uses aegis the most, i am writing this from the view point of a guardian.As it is right now Aegis is the only boon that’s useless to stack. It stacks in duration, and reguardless of how long its on you its going to disappear in a single hit. Virtue of Courage and retreat both give it for twenty seconds. Now who here think its going to take twenty seconds for an enemy to attack them, anybody? Yeah, didn’t think it would. The only reason its even used i think is because its part of the guardians class mechanic. And if a party full of guardians all pop it at the same time, well that’s just useless isnt it? Depending on who your running with there’s a chance that popping this boon will just add to its duration (which is already more than enough) essentially doing nothing. Its a no skill, no reward boon(Ok it has a use in the grand scheme of things but compared to other boons, meh). This could quite easily be changed I think if the boon times were nerfed, and it was allowed to stack in numbers. So if a couple guardians wanted to block the next two incoming hits, they could just both pop their VoC and get 2xAegis, instead of trying to magicaly watch the boons of everybody around them at the same time, and manage to slip that aegis in there after the other breaks. Doing this would still leave plenty of room for error in using the boon. With its lowered boon time if somebody were to decide to use it when they were only being attacked instead of their whole party, well then quite abit of aegis goes to waste, as opposed to waiting to use it when more people were in danger, same with CCs, if you pop it and end up needing it, it might go to waste before you get hit again, instead of just hanging around for 20 seconds.

TL:DR

Have Aegis stack in in numbers instead of duration, nerf its boon time.

P.S. the reason i made a whole post about this is because i’ve seen very few people use the VoC traits, and even less use aegis traits. Its the least available boon in the game and I would like to see more of it

Sorry but no.

Making Aegis stack in number rather than duration would only contribute to dumbing down an already dumbed down game.

Please don’t make Guild Wars 2 any easier/faceroll. Let’s start punishing spammers and rewarding good players more, shall we?

You mean by waiting until they pop might and fury and then blocking their entire attack spam? Yes yes i do agree

P.S. You cant spam aegis, I’m sorry but no, it just cant be used that often, seriously, this is more about letting multiple people use the same boon than it is about spamming

P.P.S. by letting it stack and reducing its duration it would basicly be treated like any other block, use it when you need to, or lose it. The only difference being it would be for the whole party and on a stupid high CD (which it already is). Its the same number of blocks, just easier to use togeather, and harder to set and forget

If it stacks in number, you are making people spam it, since it won’t matter if there’s already an aegis up or not: no aegis will be wasted and they will just stack nicely on top of each other. That’s what I mean.

It will promote, again, spam and unconscious playing.

Like regular attacks? like stacking fury and might? It would be fine if it was just yourself, but 5 ppl? all of which arent always even in your party. explain to me how u keep track of those boons. No its not spam, its recognizing that you or your teammates are about to get hit, and popping a shield. if some1 else pops one to. woopty do, why would they be punished for using it at the same time as you, instead of it apply to the next attack thats GOING to happen. most attacks take half a second. should we really have to be slipping in boons for 5 different people in that ammount of time? Attackers dont get punished for attacking at the same time, they dont have to wait in line, they get to lay into you simultaniously, why shouldnt shields work the same?Right now its only a boon in name only. Its duration stacking is pointless. its more like a special effect. all im asking is it be treated like every other boon that can be stacked LIKE CRAZY (ive gotten up to two mintues of fury before). you think those should be capped to? What about protection? Cap?. Having a 20 second aegis, getting stacked upon by other 20 seconds, THATS passive.

P.S. to clarify when i suggest reducing the boon time to compensate, im talking making it a few seconds, Ya know so people actualy have to think about when they use it

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Like regular attacks? like stacking fury and might? It would be fine if it was just yourself, but 5 ppl? all of which arent always even in your party. explain to me how u keep track of those boons. No its not spam, its recognizing that you or your teammates are about to get hit, and popping a shield. if some1 else pops one to. woopty do, why would they be punished for using it at the same time as you, instead of it apply to the next attack thats GOING to happen. most attacks take half a second. should we really have to slipping in boons for 5 different people in that ammount of time? Attackers dont get punished for attacking at the same time, they dont ahve to wait in line, they get to lay into you simultaniously, why shouldnt shields work the same?Right now its only a boon in name only. Its duration stacking is pointless. its more like a special effect. all im asking is it be treated like every other boon that can be stacked LIKE CRAZY (ive gotten up to two mintues of fury before). you think those should be capped to? What about protection? Cap?. Having a 20 second aegis, getting stacked upon by other 20 seconds, THATS passive.

Sorry to say, dude, but Aegis stacking would promote passive play. Imagine 5 berserker guardians all running “Retreat!”. They could pop their shouts and their Virtues of Courage and have 10 blocks on them for the next 20 seconds. A warrior has Shield stance, which is3 seconds of blocking attacks, but being unable to attack back. The same guardians can also blind you for more failed attacks and faceroll you to death.

Oh look a person who didnt read my entire post. God i love you people. Reduced boon time. God forbid you kite for two seconds for those 10 stacks of shielding to drop, bam problem solved. I do beleive somebody mentioned something about punishing spammers? Guess what that includes attack spammers. Oh no your squishy zerker was blocked? Guess ya shoulda payed attention

Also which is more likely, a party of 5 guardians, or a party including two warriors that are going to try and evicerate and kill shot you at the same time. Yeaaaah one of those is already happening as we speak (The point here is that a damage mitigation mechanic is unable to block damage as intended if it happens at the same time simply because the attacks stack and aegis doesnt. Because if another guardian did pop aegis when that happened, guess what, itll just add to the boon duration)

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Oh look a person who didnt read my entire post. God i love you people. Reduced boon time. God forbid you kite for two seconds for those 10 stacks of shielding to drop, bam problem solved

Also which is more likely, a party of 5 guardians, or a part including two warriors that are going to try and evicerate and kill shot you at the same time. Yeaaaah one of those is already happening as we speak

Having Aegis stack would get rid of any need to dodge anything. If a big attack is coming, everyone smashes Aegis and rides out the entire attack without any dodges or need to react. Unless you plan on making the duration one second long, it will promote passive play. I don’t even wanna imagine a PU mesmer who RNG’s Aegis in a row.

I was thinking more along the lines of two seconds, but yeah, short. It would then also actually reward players with higher boon duration (right now its the only boon that doesn’t) As the enemy would have to wait a half second longer if they chose to wait out the stack. Also, You do realize aegis can only be used like twice a minute right? And thats guardians with shout…

P.S.Ya know now that you said that we unfortunately are probably going to end up getting teams of 5 zerker guardians in pvp, thank you, we’re going to have to deal with that now

P.P.S. Didnt wana bump so I edited. Ya know if it did stack, that doesn’t mean there cant be a cap on it like there is on might and bleed (and no i do not suggest 25 being the cap). Just enough so that more than one could be used at once and they don’t go to waste

imo I think it’s better as a duration boon, it feel better to use.

instant blocks and invulns are a better as a extra doge type thing but I don’t think there’s a need for aegis to be a multi hit blocker.

Proper use of Aegis is one of the only ways to tell a good Guardian from mediocre ones.

No to this idea.

But my friend who is a champion Paragon told me the key to guardian is pressing all your buttons at once.

Changing Aegis like that would promote less interesting gameplay, whereas right now you need more skill/experience and concentration to make better use of 2 aegis skills (like, for example, activating it in-between attacks to completely negate an enemy’s combo).