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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

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As stated on the Ready Up blog page. They’ll be revealed tomorrow.

It’s good to know they’re bundling the next balance pass on a Living Story episode patch. We haven’t got something like that for a long time.

And honestly, this makes playing the living story updates more refreshing, because in addition to the new content, you’re toying with the changed skills alongside it.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

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I hope it include scaling summons as well as other major change such as new elites god knows some classes realy need to gain them.

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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

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We haven’t gotten new skills/ traits in the last feature patch, unlike what expected, so I guess they’re holding them for something bigger in the future.

Perhaps for a system that would make their acquisition funnier, due to players complaints against the 25 skill point requirement unlocks and the new trait revamp.

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

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If they do that, then its good to get some balance changes after 2 months instead of having to wait 6 like last time, even if its just bug fixes and smaller tweaks to the big stuff that already changed.

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Posted by: Shanks.2907

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Added a skill fact.

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Posted by: Swamurabi.7890

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Cool, another Necro nerf patch. (/sarcasm)

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

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looking forward to it, Last patch anet did say in the interviews there is a lot more to come.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

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Posted by: Ynot.8397

Ynot.8397

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

Gotta tell Anet that they are happy without them!

It can only be a good thing if anet is willing to talk about balance more and have more balance patches. 2 months between patches is much better than we had before.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

Gotta tell Anet that they are happy without them!

It can only be a good thing if anet is willing to talk about balance more and have more balance patches. 2 months between patches is much better than we had before.

not saying it’s is a bad thing, ofc it’s good but as I said I’m very happy were I am and I’m not thinking of coming back in a near future.

And I’m here because I do like the game, I just don’t enjoy playing it right now.

Edit: not to mention the “desert” PvP was back when i last played…
with ArcheAge coming out and a lot of ppl leaving I can only imagine how it is like now days in solo queues, with the amount of posts here about 4v5 and 3v5 all day long…

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

Gotta tell Anet that they are happy without them!

It can only be a good thing if anet is willing to talk about balance more and have more balance patches. 2 months between patches is much better than we had before.

Agreed – but – this is the best balance I’ve seen in an mmo. I hope they are introducing more skills or buffing unused skills rather than really impacting balance a lot.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

I am hoping this is part of the new leadership on the PvP team. ANET must realize at this point that 6 months between balance updates is too long.

That said, I don’t expect this to be a huge change. I’m just hoping to see a celestial amulet nerf in PvP as well as a turret engi nerf.

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Posted by: Mikau.6920

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Added a skill fact.

100% this. You get my day.

Sorry for my english.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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Scaling summons would be a VERY welcome change.

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Posted by: Mikau.6920

Mikau.6920

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

Gotta tell Anet that they are happy without them!

It can only be a good thing if anet is willing to talk about balance more and have more balance patches. 2 months between patches is much better than we had before.

Agreed – but – this is the best balance I’ve seen in an mmo. I hope they are introducing more skills or buffing unused skills rather than really impacting balance a lot.

I don’t think so. There are a lot useless traits and utilities that aren’t even touched and nobody uses. They not even try. And some are there since lauch.

Sorry for my english.

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Posted by: Avigrus.2871

Avigrus.2871

Cool, another Necro nerf patch. (/sarcasm)

It’s funny cause it’s true…

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Posted by: Explosia.9164

Explosia.9164

Alright rangers you had your fun. Now you go back where you came from.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

more guardian tool tip balance? :P

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

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to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Soooo… why are you here?

@OP: It’s a good sign, for sure. Hopefully it means we start getting balance patches a bit more frequently instead of only with feature packs.

Gotta tell Anet that they are happy without them!

It can only be a good thing if anet is willing to talk about balance more and have more balance patches. 2 months between patches is much better than we had before.

Agreed – but – this is the best balance I’ve seen in an mmo. I hope they are introducing more skills or buffing unused skills rather than really impacting balance a lot.

Yeah…. that warrior adrenaline change. Best balance ever.

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

Alright rangers you had your fun. Now you go back where you came from.

Uselessness and mediocrity?

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

Alright rangers you had your fun. Now you go back where you came from.

Or we can accept they needed a buff and just suggest giving pointblank a delay.

Let’s go with that.

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

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Alright rangers you had your fun. Now you go back where you came from.

Or we can accept they needed a buff and just suggest giving pointblank a delay.

Let’s go with that.

Putting a delay on PBS implies the skill was largely used as an interrupt instead of a defensive skill, doesn’kitten ? Should a defensive skill have a delay? Will Hunter’s Shot be made more reliable to counteract the loss of defensive value on the skill?

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Because world of warcraft (cataclysm and kungkittenpanda) and Aion failed you even worse then guild wars 2 and that TESO is litteraly the biggest marketing failure Bethesda ever made? I didnt mention either that everquest next gets out way later this year or the next so your long due for waiting a new mmo.

Truth is guild wars 2 despite all its mishaps is still the best mmo around here when it comes to balancing and system

Wow is old and boring nowaday i wouldnt come back to it unless they totaly overhauled their combat system and we know that wont happen

TESO is a theme park perfect world like game wich litteraly failed to deliver the final merchandise

Dont get me started on other MMO the only real competitor in view isnt even out yet and will take a year or two to do so

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

Alright rangers you had your fun. Now you go back where you came from.

Or we can accept they needed a buff and just suggest giving pointblank a delay.

Let’s go with that.

Putting a delay on PBS implies the skill was largely used as an interrupt instead of a defensive skill, doesn’kitten ? Should a defensive skill have a delay? Will Hunter’s Shot be made more reliable to counteract the loss of defensive value on the skill?

Yes, Yes because it allows position resets when the ranger has terrain advantage without counterplay, and no. Stealth shots are fun.

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Posted by: OGDeadHead.8326

OGDeadHead.8326

Added a skill fact.

Lol!

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Posted by: Yelloweyedemon.2860

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Anyone care to post a link? Also thread states tomorrow and it’s posted 21 hours ago. Means we’ll have it in some hours?

EDIT: nvm found it

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

Alright rangers you had your fun. Now you go back where you came from.

Or we can accept they needed a buff and just suggest giving pointblank a delay.

Let’s go with that.

Putting a delay on PBS implies the skill was largely used as an interrupt instead of a defensive skill, doesn’kitten ? Should a defensive skill have a delay? Will Hunter’s Shot be made more reliable to counteract the loss of defensive value on the skill?

Yes, Yes because it allows position resets when the ranger has terrain advantage without counterplay, and no. Stealth shots are fun.

The problem I have is Rangers overall are still fairly weak when it comes to disengaging/defense despite the knockback and stealth shot (and SoS). It’s why they’re always looked down on in WvW/GvG.

I’m not a fan of reducing/removing the limited things the class does have without compensation elsewhere to be honest.

A half second delay on activation (so a pretty animal graphic can play like most other weapons get—maul for example) and/or an increase the 20 seconds on the cooldown would be far better imo.

It kind of ties into a conversation I had with Prysin a few days ago. Should give every weapon for Ranger 1 or 2 ‘spirit attacks’ (where the telegraph looks like an animal doing something) and introduce a trait to improve all spirit attacks to gain some group utility.

Something so a Ranger would have a use being in a melee train. Something so the Ranger could function as well as a Thief, Ele, or Warrior as a periphery class. etc etc.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

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It kind of ties into a conversation I had with Prysin a few days ago. Should give every weapon for Ranger 1 or 2 ‘spirit attacks’ (where the telegraph looks like an animal doing something) and introduce a trait to improve all spirit attacks to gain some group utility.

Point Blank Shot would obviously need to have a Ram telegraph (where the arrow is the Ram, similar to the unicorn on the legendary shortbow). Dodge the Ram!

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Because world of warcraft (cataclysm and kungkittenpanda) and Aion failed you even worse then guild wars 2 and that TESO is litteraly the biggest marketing failure Bethesda ever made? I didnt mention either that everquest next gets out way later this year or the next so your long due for waiting a new mmo.

Truth is guild wars 2 despite all its mishaps is still the best mmo around here when it comes to balancing and system

Wow is old and boring nowaday i wouldnt come back to it unless they totaly overhauled their combat system and we know that wont happen

TESO is a theme park perfect world like game wich litteraly failed to deliver the final merchandise

Dont get me started on other MMO the only real competitor in view isnt even out yet and will take a year or two to do so

My guild moved to ArcheAge if you must know, and although Gw2 combat is superior to AA, the game itself is way better than Gw2 and it is actually FUN to play!! O.O

no more frustrating 4v5 and 3v5, we got player housing, boats, gliders, freedom to be/do whatever you want, you can me a merchant, a pirate, a thief, a crafter, a fisherman or all of them depending on what you feel like doing that day, you can attack players from both factions if you wish to, so yeah… I have no reason to come back to Gw2, at least in a near future.

Edit: did I mention that the game is FREE and you can play a monthly fee with in game currency (gold) if you want to? if you don’t you can still play it, the difference is only the player housing…

Atm i have a “subscription account” without spending ā‚¬0,01 i’m paying with gold.

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

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to late for me… I have seen 3 guilds guilds leave this game and I also left with my last guild.
I gave this game a lot of chances and the game fail me every time.

there is no coming back now. not to mention that were playing a different game atm and having actual fun for a change. the last couple of month have been frustration free so… why would I come back here?

Because world of warcraft (cataclysm and kungkittenpanda) and Aion failed you even worse then guild wars 2 and that TESO is litteraly the biggest marketing failure Bethesda ever made? I didnt mention either that everquest next gets out way later this year or the next so your long due for waiting a new mmo.

Truth is guild wars 2 despite all its mishaps is still the best mmo around here when it comes to balancing and system

Wow is old and boring nowaday i wouldnt come back to it unless they totaly overhauled their combat system and we know that wont happen

TESO is a theme park perfect world like game wich litteraly failed to deliver the final merchandise

Dont get me started on other MMO the only real competitor in view isnt even out yet and will take a year or two to do so

My guild moved to ArcheAge if you must know, and although Gw2 combat is superior to AA, the game itself is way better than Gw2 and it is actually FUN to play!! O.O

no more frustrating 4v5 and 3v5, we got player housing, boats, gliders, freedom to be/do whatever you want, you can me a merchant, a pirate, a thief, a crafter, a fisherman or all of them depending on what you feel like doing that day, you can attack players from both factions if you wish to, so yeah… I have no reason to come back to Gw2, at least in a near future.

Game’s also new

Once the new wears off the gameplay is what will matter for the PvP crowd, and as you said… GW2s gameplay is far superior. That’s about all GW2 has going for it mind you as heaven knows this game isn’t balanced, routinely updated, or has any real point to the combat.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

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Interesting i might actualy try that thing i hope it dont turn out like perfect world where the repair cost is so darn kittened that you need to buy zen constantly just to play your account.. Those catgirls… i want one.

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

Like the changes coming, especially to skyhammer. Kudos to Anet.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

Anchoku.8142

Actually, PBS needs a pop-up confirmation radio button when the target is a mob; some little alert asking if the Ranger really wants to knock back the target.

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Posted by: Loco.4561

Loco.4561

Like the changes coming, especially to skyhammer. Kudos to Anet.

Please tell me they are removing it from the rotation?

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Posted by: dulfy.1493

dulfy.1493

Like the changes coming, especially to skyhammer. Kudos to Anet.

Please tell me they are removing it from the rotation?

No skyhammer’s hammer can now be dodged and there is a longer delay before the glkittenter when you step on it. Also stealth players can no longer cause the glass to shatter.

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

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Not very many balance changes overall. I do like the Engi shield skill change though.

If they did one like this every two weeks, now that would be good.

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

nicknamenick.2437

shield change for engie just gives them a free knockback..

now you pop it > closing distance > knockback.

if you go this way you should change other stationary skills also..
dont get why engie deserves this..

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

The necromancer changes are also really nice. The slow attackspeed on staff was always a big problem with that weapon.

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Posted by: AGGabriel.9230

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Okey from the preview skill changes the devs are rly rly ignoring the guardian pvp discussion wep skills acces and i find it near perfect ignorance towards the guardian shield skills and now engy and warr share a same skill use,
the bane signet (do enyone of you use it ever at that colld ?)
mace + warr
non guard
a small good news we get ,,Retreat reduced from 60s to 40sā€™ā€™ good ?
I would really want to get a vip preview on the skill changes(guardian) to start crying till the changes patch are up

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

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the bane signet (do enyone of you use it ever at that colld ?)

Well this is exactly the reason why they buffed it…

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

LoL
pathetic changes!

i’m out *

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

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if they are now doing changes every 2 months, i’m ecstatic….even if its only a case of “less changes more often. over more changes less often”.

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

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Did any warr used offhand mace?? lol @ crushing blow with a 3/4 casttime.. haha waste of weapon skill slot.

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Posted by: CboStL.4965

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LoL
pathetic changes!

i’m out *

Judging by your post history, you’ve been gone for a while now. Yet you still come on here everyday to let us all know.

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

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Did any warr used offhand mace?? lol @ crushing blow with a 3/4 casttime.. haha waste of weapon skill slot.

I think that was the point of buffing it. It has never been used outside of PvE. Maybe the 10 stacks of vulnerability will now make it worth using in pvp.

Overall I like this upcomming balance patch. Smaller and more frequent changes is what I have been asking for since I launch. Nothing is earthshattering and that is the way it should be. A few tweaks here and there, what a couple months to see how it affects the game, make a few other tweaks and repeat. I hope they keep going with this philosophy instead of the bi-yearly wack-a-mole approach they have been using until now.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Added a skill fact.

in-fact, that’s a fact.

Did any warr used offhand mace?? lol @ crushing blow with a 3/4 casttime.. haha waste of weapon skill slot.

used it before, as a test, with Axe mainhand. It is amusing when you knock down a whole team and burst the lowest player in the face with evis while their all down.

but other then that, havent seen anyone even try it.

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Posted by: Azel.4786

Azel.4786

Loved the part they almost forgot about the ranger, only to remember “oh ranger? Yeah people started to play with them again and they using a lot of LB huh? We should nerf it and fix this.”

Also really loved how they mentioned about fixing the pet skill of the elementalist but made no comment on fixing the most broken pet skill in the game, also known as the ranger class mechanic…

Typical Anet stuff…

Always thought this, but never hurts to say it, GW2 is a good game and has a lot of potential, but Anet really needs to get its ***t together, its been 2 years and some stuff are a problem since day one, from WvWvW to class issues.

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Posted by: nightwulf.1986

nightwulf.1986

Not very many balance changes overall. I do like the Engi shield skill change though.

If they did one like this every two weeks, now that would be good.

I’m pretty sure it was mentioned that these aren’t all of the changes. Just a head’s up. It’s just a preview.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Honestly, the exact nature of the changes (while all of them previewed are good changes) isn’t the most important part. It’s the possibility of more frequent, smaller balance changes that is really the big thing, here.

Balance patches every 2 months is a great goal for them to aim for. Sure, you can say “But games like LoL and Smite do balance patches every 2 weeks,” but those games, honestly speaking, are less complex than GW2. More individual pieces to balance (especially on League), but still less complex. Balance passes every 2 months is a great goal, and I hope that this coming one is not just a fluke.

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