Base HP - Why the differences?
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Guardians were in the Medium Health category a very long time ago, but were nerfed to low after they were deemed overpowered.
I’d say that they are still in a pretty good spot to this day.
Necromancer has High base Health because they were intended to lack active defenses but still be one of (if not THE) hardest to kill.
Anet mentioned how in their internal beta tests Necros used to be absolutely invincible.
They were far beyond Guardians in survivability.
Heck, they even had a Minor trait that made them immune to CC in Death Shroud.
Somewhere along the line Necro’s survivability got nerfed to the point that they are dead meat if focused down by multiple people.
They were never given the escape tools to survive that scenario.
Yet Anet realized how weak Necro was and now they are pretty potent in sPvP.
I think Necro lost much of their identity somewhere along the line.
They gained a lot of Condition damage but never quite got their survivability back.
They remain mostly unwanted in PvE, but are dangerous in PvP.
Perhaps the upcoming changes change that, however.
Thieves have low base health because they are meant to hit really, really hard and be very fast.
It’s their theme to be the fast, squishy ninja-like Profession. 
Likewise Elementalists are meant to have high damage, but I think that they are actually somewhat lacking atm.
Warriors have high base health because they focus so much on melee combat and lack stealth.
Don’t take this as a claim that they are balanced…
I’m just telling you what the intention is.
It’s why warriors in pretty much any game have high health.
They are intended to get hit often, whereas a Thief isn’t.
Ranger, Engi and Mesmers are somewhere in the middle for a reason, too.
Ranger was intended to be somewhere between Thief and Warrior as far as mobility/taking hits goes.
I dunno about Engineer. Guessing something similar?
And Mesmer was seen as a Profession that has less defenses than it’s fellow casters (Eles and Necros) have, so I guess that’s why they got a higher base health than Eles and more damage than Necro.
Again, this is my understanding of the reasonings, I am not claiming that the systems necessarily work in the intended way as far as balance goes.
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Passives shouldn’t be balanced with actives because actives are based on player skill.
The HP gap is an unnecessary complication that only serve to make some classes statistically better because they didn’t feel like making the classes equal in different but balanced abilities.
And now here we are, the development team is a extremely variable entity (see Mon’s thread on first page), and the hp differences and armor differences no longer have a clear counter balance. Significantly lower hp/armor (in some cases around 50%!) does not add up to equally significant damage (Does the elementalist do 50% more damage than warrior?)
I recall a thread a month ago that went on about this very thing… (wink, wink)
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Yeah I don’t really see changing base health amounts doing much good, but the game itself must somehow be better balanced to not make the Health differences too drastic or too insignificant.
I think that Warriors have a relatively nice mix defensively, whereas Necros almost completely rely on their two health bars, rendering them either super strong or weak depending on the situation.
Normalizing the health amounts would force Necro to become more like Guardian, otherwise they’d die way too fast with how slow and lacking in active defenses they are.
Speaking of Guardians, they’d be imba if their base was higher.
And I don’t see most sPvPrs being happy about Thieves with higher Health either.
(I wouldn’t mind that for my Thief, though! )
I do think that things may need to be generalized a tad more, though.
For example if Death Shroud had less max Life Force but also had an Invul skill it would make it a lot more flexible for different situations.
Or even just a skill that consumes Life Force for a short invul.
Likewise if the squishies had something to better deal with slow, constant damage it would even out the huge difference between being a tank of health or a squishie who evades 6 times in a row.
For example a version of Protection that reduces damage by a level-scaled set number rather than a percentage.
But yea I do think that changing base health values themselves that drastically would throw everything into chaos.
They’d need to rebalance the Professions almost completely.
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