Consider A Guardian Tweak Please?

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Posted by: BillX.4987

BillX.4987

Q:

(These questions are based off of the ‘perma-regen crit-tank escapist warrior’, ‘perma-stealth blind-bot condi-crit escapist thief’ and ‘perma-tele condi-crit stealth escapist mesmer’ combat experience)

~would a (1-3 second) ‘Cripple’ or (1 second) ‘Immobilize’ be too much on [Binding Blade]?

~would an ‘Evade’ be too much with [Leap Of Faith]?

~would having [Renewed Focus] affect ‘Utility Skills’ as well as ‘Virtues’ over-power a guardian?

~would having the damage from ‘Retaliation’ trigger the ‘Burn’ from ‘Virtue Of Justice’ passive effect over-power a guardian?

~would having ‘Symbols’ or a ‘Trait’ apply ‘Weakness’ over-power a guardian?

~shouldn’t the ‘Yarr’ shout from ‘Rune of the Privateer’ trigger ‘Pure Of Voice’ and remove the condition(s)?

(By all means, please post proper hows and whys…as opposed to sour opinions and comments)

~then I saw that there was a way to hell, even from the gate of heaven…

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Posted by: Littlefeather.8623

Littlefeather.8623

Consider a Guardian Twerk.

Now with that in mind, I do like the added cripple on Binding Blade idea.

Crazy Leg

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Posted by: MercilessLemurs.7459

MercilessLemurs.7459

Weakness on symbols would be crazy broken. Think about the hammer auto attack chain, it would basically dish out perma aoe weakness unless there was a cooldown. That coupled with perma protection = way to tanky.

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Posted by: BillX.4987

BillX.4987

Weakness on symbols would be crazy broken. Think about the hammer auto attack chain, it would basically dish out perma aoe weakness unless there was a cooldown. That coupled with perma protection = way to tanky.

~I agree, but I argue that one could simply walk out of the symbol which all veteran players will do anyways no? (I was thinking a 1 second weakness duration per pulse and with a condition ‘duration reduction’ pre-set one would really not have to worry no?) And maybe it’s my luck, but I always get ‘boon-stripped’

~then I saw that there was a way to hell, even from the gate of heaven…

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Posted by: igmolicious.5986

igmolicious.5986

(These questions are based off of the ‘perma-regen crit-tank escapist warrior’, ‘perma-stealth blind-bot condi-crit escapist thief’ and ‘perma-tele condi-crit stealth escapist mesmer’ combat experience)

~would a (1-3 second) ‘Cripple’ or (1 second) ‘Immobilize’ be too much on [Binding Blade]?

~would an ‘Evade’ be too much with [Leap Of Faith]?

~would having [Renewed Focus] affect ‘Utility Skills’ as well as ‘Virtues’ over-power a guardian?

~would having the damage from ‘Retaliation’ trigger the ‘Burn’ from ‘Virtue Of Justice’ passive effect over-power a guardian?

~would having ‘Symbols’ or a ‘Trait’ apply ‘Weakness’ over-power a guardian?

~shouldn’t the ‘Yarr’ shout from ‘Rune of the Privateer’ trigger ‘Pure Of Voice’ and remove the condition(s)?

(By all means, please post proper hows and whys…as opposed to sour opinions and comments)

My personal feelings:

Cripple on binding blade may be a little overpowered, simply because it’s already granting damage over time and CC in the form of a pull/knockdown.

Evade on Leap of Faith could be justifiable, depending on the length of the evade portion (I’d say 1/2 second would probably be appropriate)

Renewed focus affecting utilities would be overpowered, as you already get invulnerability along with being able to pop and refresh virtues. That’s a lot of utility on its own. Granted, I’d love to be able to refresh all my abilities on my guardian like that, but with things like heal on meditation that would allow for insane burst healing (with the base heal for monk’s focus, and meditations in heal/utilities you’d get around 16k JUST from monk’s focus on top of the healing from litany of wrath and merciful intervention — which would be another ~4k area and ~3k self heal for a total of 23k burst). That of course is just one example, I’m sure plenty of other scenarios would be equally or MORE broken. I could maybe see it refreshing the heal skill, but all utilities would be a bit overkill.

Weakness is one of those conditions that you don’t see often, because it’s powerful (50% chance for 50% damage reduction as well as endurance regeneration cut in half). Stack that with perma-protection symbols available to guardians and you have a recipe for tears. I may not be doing the math right, but that would be an effective damage reduction of a bit over 50% just for fighting inside a protection symbol with the added benefit of eating your opponent’s ability to dodge while damaging them (and making them vulnerable, if traited). Edit: This would also effectively make symbol of wrath nearly as tanky as symbol of protection, adding considerable damage reduction to the already heavy-hitting greatsword. Combine that with a weapon swap to hammer and you’ve got double-stacking duration on weakness.

I actually sort of hoped that the privateer rune shout counted as a shout when I ran in on my warrior, but I can see how it could be unbalancing to have a “free” shout proc every 20 seconds.

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Posted by: BillX.4987

BillX.4987

@igmolicious.5986

I actually have the same feelings, but still somehow fail to see how what your saying would make a ‘Over-Powered’ difference VS a 1 and/or all 3+: ‘perma-regen crit-tank escapist warrior’, ‘perma-stealth blind-bot condi-crit escapist thief’ and ‘perma-tele condi-crit stealth escapist mesmer’ which can and will strip boons, besides I assure you the fight(s) won’t be over after all those ‘Over-Powered’ heals and {Renewed Focus} is on CD, but will give a Guardian proper opportunity to be a better ‘escapist’ as well as was intended (please keep in mind the lack of Condi-Tank Necros, Engis and Eles in the conversation).
Perhaps I’m just burned from fighting PROs in WvW and S/TPvP and feel something is missing for Guardians to get proper kills and to NOT have to ‘conform’ to full ‘Bunker’ or ‘Paper-DPS’ to compete and I feel I should make a stand…If anything I’m challenging the ‘Devs’ to test these ‘twerks’ and take them into consideration for a Guardian rebalance after trial by fire VS the aforementioned meta-onomatopoeia…especially now that China is more involved :O (Yes, I respect and fear asian kids)

~then I saw that there was a way to hell, even from the gate of heaven…

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