Guild Wars 2

Done everything in the game so moved on to pvp.

I invested everything into a warrior, ascended armour, legendary everything, it just absolutely sucks at sustained damaged and the utility skills are garbage. Hear me out before you say “you’re doing it wrong” or “there are good warriors” there are, just very few.

After playing this since day one I’ve tried pvp for the first time, obviously experienced in all aspects of the game mostly WvW and the warrior is countered so easily it’s laughable. I’m sick of someone thinking they’re amazing and dancing on my body with their “i win” class.

The basic setup for a warrior is melee, so what does that require? Holding your enemy still or you have no chance at sustained damage. Despite “warrior spirit” it doesn’t make you run fast enough to chase and smash over the head because others have swiftness making them move the same, mobility countered.

Bull charge: 2 second knockdown, what can you do in two seconds even if a) they don’t dodge it and b) they are stabilised which most pvp builds will be, easily countered.

Bolas, better option but most still have cure conditions or can break free, meaning you’ll again be chasing stuff hitting lumps of nothing but air chasing someone just as fast as you. There you have it, two of your utility skills made useless with more than one possibility most players have.

Greatsword and rifle both useless in pvp, there goes two available weapons right there. Forcing you to use axe, mace or shield which the skullcracker build is easily broken now too.

Now you’ll be facing a thief who will deal an insane amount of damage on you, then hide not knowing where he will strike, repeat until you die. Even if you somehow get the better of him or he messes up his attack, cloak….he’s gone and survived. While you stay in open air, vulnerable and constantly a target. Yes you’re thinking “well not if he lands into 100 blades” not many are stupid enough to do that, lets be honest. Even then a dodge gets him out of it. Death most of the time awaits.

Mesmer – It’s like fighting a crowd, I have never seen a warrior beat a mesmer because it can run away fast if it starts to lose, he can confuse by dumping clones at a stupid rate and not only that they deal extra damaged at medium range with a constant stream of zerk dps, again you’ll die.

Guardian, you’ll get outanked and die.

Ranger (assuming he’s ok) will range you with a steady stream of sustained arrows weaking you and keeping you at arms length, by this time you’ll be using the heal skills uncomfortably early while you hopeless chase after him meanwhile being bitter to pieces by it’s companion.

Of those above utility skills these classes have made useless their other slots will be used to bring you a whole load of pain. You can’t cloak, you can’t run away you’re dead.

Again before you say “I’m a good warrior” you might be, but you know kitten sure as I do for every good warrior there is 20 times the amount of mesmer and thieves, a build that is now just an option for people to level and make their “i win” build.

So what do I do? Level a mesmer myself and pat myself on the head thinking I’m such a pro player when actually I’m just a universally diverse consistent damage dealing, clone producing, cloaking superweapon? Yeah why not everyone else does?

Or perhaps I should be a guardian, it’s everything a warrior is with insane regenerative capabilities. (By the way I have noticed in pvp no one seems to go after the guardian) I’m guessing that because it takes so much dps to down it they’ll have no one left in their arena team to win.

Oh yes, and should you down you’ll be about to be impales when of….HALF of your down skill (vengance) is built up….lets throw a knockdown, oh but then he’s stabilised, and even if he isn’t you can make two attempts at a finishing move before the vengeance skill is even ready, while your mesmer if you down him will ping away, clone itself AGAIN, or other classes will get the chance to run a short distance to safety or yes…cloak again.

The warrior is a terrible awful class at pvp and I’m annoyed I can’t even compete with the shere dynamic options of the above classes that render it’s attacks useless while having their own stupidly over powered range of diverse attacking options.

I’m now going to join the trolls and become a mesmer or a guardian and just be invulnerable in arena pvp.

Rant over, RIP warrior.

umm….warrior is like the most overpowered in PvP. You just need to learn how to fight each individual class, and it sounds like you haven’t figured out which utilities/traits are good for pvp. It should be easy since the learning curve on warrior is relatively low compared to some of the other classes

If this isn’t a troll post…
You should post this in the professions balance forum
and also check Warrior forums for advice.
What build are you playing?
Warrior can out bunker and out dps most other classes
depending on what build you run.
If you run glass cannon with physical utilities then you are
basically a hit and run type of build and most likely to become
Thief bait,unless you are 100% on top of your game.

From your past experience, very little is transferrable to PvP. Your mechanical skills are for sure, but other than that some dueling experience is really all that will carry over. PvP also has better quality players in terms of fighting other players than PvE or WvW do (they’re probably better than you are atm). There’s a lot you’ll need to learn.

Watch some tournament play, warriors are a very strong class.

Is this a warrior complaining that he is weak? If you would be a proplayer, playing only against the best of the best, I could probably understand you. But this is an assertion without substance. I play warrior myself some time in PvP and I can handle even 1v2s. Ofcourse, you will probably fail with an all melee setup, but still: the warrior is the last class which can complain being too weak.

I decided to hear you out before telling you you’re doing it wrong.

You’re doing it wrong.

Th-that was beautiful OP, truly a work of art.

If you are unhappy with the warrior, play another class. The beauty of PvP in this game is that your lvl 2 character is just as good as your lvl 80 character. Ascended and legendaries may look nice, but have no other significance in that part of the game.

Garambola.2461:

If you are unhappy with the warrior, play another class.

If he sucks at EASYMODE war what makes you think he will be happy with something else? XD

Iv got maybe 5hrs play time in my warrior, and I smash with him in pvp. With a random celestial distracting strikes build too. I man a thief, and when I roll my war I feel like a God, it’s a million times easier, I honestly don’t even know what all the weapon skills do I just press em when there up lol

Galsia.4102:

Th-that was beautiful OP, truly a work of art.

It feels to me like no one else got it. :P
Especially with the lead-in about full ascended and all (in sPvP!), I thought it was rather obvious.

If you can’t win with the strongest class ,then this game is not for you. The only option left is playing an AI based build. Its the only build that is easier than warrior.

MM necro , turret engi or spirit ranger.

Hammer and Longbow, 0/0/30/10/30, Soldier Amulet and Strength Runes. Berserker’s Stance and Healing Signet.

Look up “Hambow” builds that are up to date and you should do well.

anyone notice how long bow and hammer was not mentioned?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

anyone notice how long bow and hammer was not mentioned?

By the OP’s own admission, they are new to PvP. They probably don’t know the meta builds for the class (Sword Condi, Hambow, Axebow, Banner Bunker).

post this in the pvp forum if you dare.
warrior is the easiest pvp profession and has been for over half a year now.
i can imagine how frustrated you’d be if you were playing a class like ranger or thief…

No need to be rude, guys. PvP in GW2 is way more difficult than even PvPers realize, and unfortunately, PvE/WvW teach very little about PvP.

The OP is probably a fine player, he just doesn’t realize that he’s completely new at PvP. If I had played PvE/WvW for two years, I’d probably assume I could enter PvP at a high level, also. But that’s just not the case in GW2.

Unfortunately, PvE/WvW have probably taught him some “bad” habits that he’ll have to change to succeed in PvP; in that respect, he’s at an even greater disadvantage than someone who just installed the game yesterday.

My god… he’s not a troll, look at his post history, 1 year ago complaining about being forced into WvW for map completion and moaning about getting killed in under 6 seconds lol The OP is just not and never will be a PvP’er. Stick to PvE my friend!!

You finally tried pvp for the first time? It needs practice… I’ve been only WvW-ing since launch (spvp when i get stale matchups), and all I do is fight people… and believe me plenty of other people do the same thing. I don’t think you can just get all the best equipment and then hope you do OK.

Neko.9021:

Hammer and Longbow, 0/0/30/10/30, Soldier Amulet and Strength Runes. Berserker’s Stance and Healing Signet.

Look up “Hambow” builds that are up to date and you should do well.

Hambow is so overrated. Something like this will pretty much let you handle anything that comes your way. Do they attack fast? Death by Retaliation. Do they have poor coni removal? Death by Burning and Torment. Are they allergic to taking an axe to the throat? Use Evis with 3 attacks after switching and get a nice bit of burst damage. Sure, you lack the control of the Hammer but this build isn’t totally shut down by someone having stability or a heap of teleports. It also has a nice side benefit of not being Hambow which halves the amount of QQ. People will still complain about HS, just say that you are sorry for not using Mending.

Celestial gear is going to be the real problem, that and the ability to use Strength runes to maintain good damage even on a tanky build.

You’re new to PvP and you complain about the easiest and one of the top tier PvP classes being bad?

Your arguments are invalid. You don’t have experience.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Neko.9021:

Hammer and Longbow, 0/0/30/10/30, Soldier Amulet and Strength Runes. Berserker’s Stance and Healing Signet.

Look up “Hambow” builds that are up to date and you should do well.

Hambow is so overrated. Something like this will pretty much let you handle anything that comes your way. Do they attack fast? Death by Retaliation. Do they have poor coni removal? Death by Burning and Torment. Are they allergic to taking an axe to the throat? Use Evis with 3 attacks after switching and get a nice bit of burst damage. Sure, you lack the control of the Hammer but this build isn’t totally shut down by someone having stability or a heap of teleports. It also has a nice side benefit of not being Hambow which halves the amount of QQ. People will still complain about HS, just say that you are sorry for not using Mending.

Celestial gear is going to be the real problem, that and the ability to use Strength runes to maintain good damage even on a tanky build.

Axe/LB is more OP than hambow in 1v1, I doubt people will QQ less.