Guild Wars 2

How will the Critical damage —> Ferocity change affect the Divinity Rune set?

Many people have spend a lot of money on this rune set (as well as the traveller rune set) for the high critical damage it gives, next to a nice bonus on all stats. However if the rune would be changed to just:

(1 to 6)+10 to all stats (including ferocity)

This would mean a big nerf to the set. How will this be changed?
1)Will all the stat bonusses be increased (cfr. celestial gear)? This would still be a disaster for all builds using the set for the crit damage.

2)Will there be a separation like so:

(1 to 6) +10 to all stats & +30 (2%) to ferocity

Please let me know:
A concerned divinator!

I’ll just use my psychic powers to get the data from the patch that hasn’t been released yet…

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I got nothing.

Maybe do what everyone else is doing and wait.

Rune of Traveler has also the same problem. Going from 6% crit damage to just 2% is a huge nerf…

rune of the traveler full set loses 4% crit damage and , in favor of:

+6 on all stats

I suspect divinity will get +10 more stats. (i suspect it will become progressive like traveler +8, +10, +12 etc….)

P.S. In the name of “build diversity” /sarcasm

The point of this change is to reduce the top amounts of crit available, especially in cases where the crit attainable was comparatively high (like with these runes).

Carighan.6758:

The point of this change is to reduce the top amounts of crit available, especially in cases where the crit attainable was comparatively high (like with these runes).

You should say its your personal theory not availed by any mean by devs.

The change is due to making lore consistence from what we know that is making all little numbers equal…(and its an awful reason).

What you refer to is ferocity nerf that its another nerf…
First the crit damage of celestial/divinity/wupwup/traveler is NERFED to make number consistent….then it is nerfed again by ferocity scaling.

Smart money is on post-patch 6/6 divinity giving right around 5% crit damage (down from 12%). Stats bonus rises from 60 to 72 or 75.

Wow, I didn’t think about how this will affect traveler runes. I understand the increase is currently only 6%, but I hope it’s scaled up so it translates into the same percentage

mrauls.6519:

Wow, I didn’t think about how this will affect traveler runes. I understand the increase is currently only 6%, but I hope it’s scaled up so it translates into the same percentage

That would be 63.6 to all stats for divinity (hopefully they round up to 64). I am ever glad I didn’t waste my money buying those.

Traveler runes only have 3 stages committed to all-stat bonuses and they jumped from 30 points to 36 (20% gain). I think its reasonable to anticipate Divnity runes will also gain 20% (72) and possibly a smidgeon more (75).

Nike.2631:

Traveler runes only have 3 stages committed to all-stat bonuses and they jumped from 30 points to 36 (20% gain). I think its reasonable to anticipate Divnity runes will also gain 20% (72) and possibly a smidgeon more (75).

I sure hope you are right cause 6% really is a kick in the junk.

Nike.2631:

Traveler runes only have 3 stages committed to all-stat bonuses and they jumped from 30 points to 36 (20% gain). I think its reasonable to anticipate Divnity runes will also gain 20% (72) and possibly a smidgeon more (75).

Oh so they do get a buff?

mrauls.6519:

Nike.2631:

Traveler runes only have 3 stages committed to all-stat bonuses and they jumped from 30 points to 36 (20% gain). I think its reasonable to anticipate Divnity runes will also gain 20% (72) and possibly a smidgeon more (75).

Oh so they do get a buff?

But is that buff worth the loss in crit damage and will those runes stills be worth the price you paid for them. My guess is no.

mrauls.6519:

Nike.2631:

Traveler runes only have 3 stages committed to all-stat bonuses and they jumped from 30 points to 36 (20% gain). I think its reasonable to anticipate Divnity runes will also gain 20% (72) and possibly a smidgeon more (75).

Oh so they do get a buff?

More accurately they get a shift. All sources of Crit damage are going down. “Celestial style” sources of crit damage are going down A LOT, so they’re being compensated with a small increase to the all-stat bonus.

If you used them for high crit damage builds there are (much) better choices now. IF you used them for multi-role functionality, they are a tiny bit better.

No actually they are better for tanks and worse for balanced builds….
That is why a refund/stat change would be the best choice…

I hope they’d give stat changes for Divinity/Traveler runes. I have 12 pieces of Traveler Runes on my armors >_<

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/gw2-pvp-build-UI-19.jpg

Wouldn’t it more reasonable to just guess it this way?

New Divinity:
+8
+10
+12
+14
+16
+18

Total: +78

Nike.2631:

Traveler runes only have 3 stages committed to all-stat bonuses and they jumped from 30 points to 36 (20% gain). I think its reasonable to anticipate Divnity runes will also gain 20% (72) and possibly a smidgeon more (75).

IIRC, they also got an additional 5% boon duration from the 5th rune step. Making a full set:

+36 to all stats
+15% Boon Duration
+10% Condition Duration
+25% Movement speed

they had 15% boon duration in second rune…just because they feel compelled to nerf eles and promote “build diversity” forcing people to use 6 of the same unes.

My logic for how Divinity Runes will play

Current Behavior:
10 to all stats
Traveler’s Runes stats are half as much

Currently Known:
Traveler’s Runes stats are 36
PvP Celestial Amulet Stat increase = ~47%
2 × 36 × 1.47 = 105

Future Behavior:
Divinity Runes
+12
+14
+16
+18
+20
+22
Total 102

What I haven’t seen spoken about is character effectiveness. Because after these changes, characters with Celestial items will be weaker in comparison to other power builds. They’ll be especially weaker toward condition builds.

The percentage of a pool of points matters. The maximum crit damage percentage is only around the 120’s. Thus, 6 points is about 5% of the total pool. Because Crit Damage is a multiplier, every point into the pool is stronger than the point before. Making Celestial items somewhat character effective because they add additional crit. Now an additional 6 point in power, which has a pool well of 2500, is only adding 0.25% to the pool. Which is statistically insignificant.

I simply can’t see how adding such a miniscule amount to the base numbers is somehow equal to the character effectiveness Celestial items are right now. Which is already not very much!!

My Engi has a full Celestial armor set with 6/6 Traveler Runes….the changes should be interesting. Doing the math is easy enough now but the practical application will be what I’m anxious for. As an engi, an overall increase in all the stats feels like it’ll be more beneficial than the loss of crit damage. What I love most about that set is the lazy versatility it offers me: easily swapping trinkets for various builds.

DeWolfe.2174:

What I haven’t seen spoken about is character effectiveness. Because after these changes, characters with Celestial items will be weaker in comparison to other power builds. They’ll be especially weaker toward condition builds.

The percentage of a pool of points matters. The maximum crit damage percentage is only around the 120’s. Thus, 6 points is about 5% of the total pool. Because Crit Damage is a multiplier, every point into the pool is stronger than the point before. Making Celestial items somewhat character effective because they add additional crit. Now an additional 6 point in power, which has a pool well of 2500, is only adding 0.25% to the pool. Which is statistically insignificant.

I simply can’t see how adding such a miniscule amount to the base numbers is somehow equal to the character effectiveness Celestial items are right now. Which is already not very much!!

this is wrong.
Every point into the pool adds less than the point before did.
I made a spreadsheet and the ratio in the crit damage modifier(1 + 0.5 + (crit/100)) decreases with every step.
The first point of crit damage adds 0.66% to the modifier, the 130th point adds 0.36%.