Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
Supply drop can be good for sPvP or 1v1 roaming in WvW but it’s really not worth much at all in PvE or in large groups in WvW. So I suppose it really just depends on which area of the game we are referring to.
Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
Again as I posted to someone else, it depends on the game mode. It’s next to worthless when you are fighting large groups of anything such as in PvE or in WvW with the zerg (although at least it does have a short interrupt which can be handy at times). So primarily it is ok for a 1v1 situation or in a situation where you are forced to fight on a small spot like in sPvP.
We’re talking about all game modes. As an elementalist I would literally rather take a fourth utility than any of my elites, no matter what I’m doing where or when.
Supply drop dominates spvp like nobody’s business.
Thieves guild is a won fight when soloroaming.
We’re talking about all game modes. As an elementalist I would literally rather take a fourth utility than any of my elites, no matter what I’m doing where or when.
Supply drop dominates spvp like nobody’s business.
Thieves guild is a won fight when soloroaming.
FGs is one of the best elites for WvW…
and thieves guild is not a won fight against alot of builds becaues it gives them something to actually hit which triggers their on hit/on crit ect. skills. For example if you use thieves guild against a necromancer he will happily transfer all conditions to your thieves guild while sitting in death shroud to outlast the damage.
Changes to glyph will make it AMAZING in pvp. Controllable burst (fire)/interrupt (air)/huge heal (water)/defense (earth) is amazing. If its like a ranger pet and works while you are cc’d even, the air/water/earth can even be used as a pseudo-stunbreak. I have always wanted an elite (controllable) heal, and now ele has that.
Tornado is useless unless you can make it something special with lightning rod.
FGS is useless except for wvw roaming to gtfo b/c sustained mobility is poor thanks to the abomination that is RtL nowadays.
Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
Thieves guild…lmao.
lol… yah next they are plotting to murder Queen Jena, so they called the dhovakin.
1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.
Where any utility is a better alternative than your elite
Good job Anet
Show us video evidence of this…………
Until you do, I call shenanigans, because you have not touched it yet, and are just making uninformed assumption.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream? I would rather take three cantrips + ice bow for wvw/spvp than any of the elites. Tornado is literally useless now. You are a giant target and will most likely die from retal before you do anything useful. FGS is useless in wvw as well, it was only used for running away or getting to a point quickly, and ofc pve dungeons. The glyph actually isn’t that bad, but it still wouldn’t outshine another utility in my mind, especially in wvw.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream?
I did. I saw a dev using skills against dummies.
What does that have to do with players who have never touched the profession with those changes making claims based on no experience and stating it as if it is fact based on experience.
Are you guys unaware that the water-glyph elite heals for 8K?!?! It looks like this heal will be on a 15s CD, whereas previously it only happened 1x per-cast of the elite. Maybe the healing will be reduced a bit, but that is still INSANELY strong.
Making that heal on-demand is a massive buff, and makes the elite glyph good in every build for that alone.
Yes, FGS is trash. Maybe they will reduce its CD and make it a mobility skill.
Yes, tornado is very situational/build dependent.
However, don’t discount the fact that eles will now have the only elite with an on-demand and massive heal.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream?
I did. I saw a dev using skills against dummies.
What does that have to do with players who have never touched the profession with those changes making claims based on no experience and stating it as if it is fact based on experience.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream?
I did. I saw a dev using skills against dummies.
What does that have to do with players who have never touched the profession with those changes making claims based on no experience and stating it as if it is fact based on experience.
FGS is useless in wvw as well, it was only used for running away or getting to a point quickly
Odd, you cry useless, then list a very good use for it. Seems contradictory.
Wow a 180s CD elite used purely for mobility. You got me there! I guess it isn’t useless after all!
You seemed like a sharp fella………..I knew you’d come around. Especially after your post history showed you making the same digs about how dumb knee jerk reaction are to engineers, thieves, and warriors in threads in which they took nerfs in the past.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream?
I did. I saw a dev using skills against dummies.
What does that have to do with players who have never touched the profession with those changes making claims based on no experience and stating it as if it is fact based on experience.
FGS is useless in wvw as well, it was only used for running away or getting to a point quickly
Odd, you cry useless, then list a very good use for it. Seems contradictory.
Wow a 180s CD elite used purely for mobility. You got me there! I guess it isn’t useless after all!
You seemed like a sharp fella………..I knew you’d come around. Especially after your post history showed you making the same digs about how dumb knee jerk reaction are to engineers, thieves, and warriors in threads in which they took nerfs in the past.
I’m glad at least one person is happy sacrificing an elite used purely for mobility. I on the other hand (and clearly countless others) would like an elite worthy of the title “elite”. Please go troll somewhere else. If you think an elite is viable because it can be used for mobility while simultaneously knowing it won’t have use anywhere else, I really can’t be bothered dealing with a troll like you.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream?
I did. I saw a dev using skills against dummies.
What does that have to do with players who have never touched the profession with those changes making claims based on no experience and stating it as if it is fact based on experience.
FGS is useless in wvw as well, it was only used for running away or getting to a point quickly
Odd, you cry useless, then list a very good use for it. Seems contradictory.
Wow a 180s CD elite used purely for mobility. You got me there! I guess it isn’t useless after all!
You seemed like a sharp fella………..I knew you’d come around. Especially after your post history showed you making the same digs about how dumb knee jerk reaction are to engineers, thieves, and warriors in threads in which they took nerfs in the past.
I’m glad at least one person is happy sacrificing an elite used purely for mobility. I on the other hand (and clearly countless others) would like an elite worthy of the title “elite”. Please go troll somewhere else. If you think an elite is viable because it can be used for mobility while simultaneously knowing it won’t have use anywhere else, I really can’t be bothered dealing with a troll like you.
I apologize if it hurts your delicate sensibilities that i disagree with the claim that we have no viable elite, because I feel the big heal on the glyph summoned elemental is viable.
“video evidence” rofl, did you even watch the stream?
I did. I saw a dev using skills against dummies.
What does that have to do with players who have never touched the profession with those changes making claims based on no experience and stating it as if it is fact based on experience.
FGS is useless in wvw as well, it was only used for running away or getting to a point quickly
Odd, you cry useless, then list a very good use for it. Seems contradictory.
Wow a 180s CD elite used purely for mobility. You got me there! I guess it isn’t useless after all!
You seemed like a sharp fella………..I knew you’d come around. Especially after your post history showed you making the same digs about how dumb knee jerk reaction are to engineers, thieves, and warriors in threads in which they took nerfs in the past.
I’m glad at least one person is happy sacrificing an elite used purely for mobility. I on the other hand (and clearly countless others) would like an elite worthy of the title “elite”. Please go troll somewhere else. If you think an elite is viable because it can be used for mobility while simultaneously knowing it won’t have use anywhere else, I really can’t be bothered dealing with a troll like you.
I apologize if it hurts your delicate sensibilities that i disagree with the claim that we have no viable elite, because I feel the big heal on the glyph summoned elemental is viable.
Yes it is viable, but only in certain areas. Eles now have no proper elite for wvw play. The glyph (as I actually said earlier) is a nice change, but for many gamemodes, I and many others would clearly rather another utility. The only reason it would hurt me that you disagree with me is due to pity somebody could call a 3 minute CD skill useful because it can be used for mobility. Not only is that a terrible argument, but shows a complete disconnect with reality.
The fact remains that with the way ele elites are now, for many game types and play styles, another utility would be better than the elites. That shouldn’t be the case. An elite should also have a function other than mobility, it’s an elite after all.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
I undestand FGS nerf. To some extent I also understand the reasoning behind Tornado nerf, though I don’t agree that it was required to get rid of that “amazing” 3s damage boost for meteors.
I’m mainly a WvW player and in this game-mode I would now choose to replace any of the elite skills with Ice Bow or some other normal utility skill – that bad is the situation of our current elites going to be after this “balance”.
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To be totally honest, I think most players would take a 4th utility over an elite. The elites are generally situational across the board. Combine that with the long cool downs they all have, and I think a good deal of players would regularly take a 4th utility on any profession.
We’re talking about all game modes. As an elementalist I would literally rather take a fourth utility than any of my elites, no matter what I’m doing where or when.
Supply drop dominates spvp like nobody’s business.
Thieves guild is a won fight when soloroaming.
please bring thieves guild against a axe ranger, a trap ranger, a pistol dagger thief or a GS medi guard. They will be dead in milliseconds and you’ll spend the rest of the time with a elite on CD
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
I would to love using an arcane utility skill to replace the useless elites if I could.
That’s what Anet should do if they cannot come up with a good elementalist elite after 2 years. They should just look at Guild Wars 1, the elementalists elite were actually useful in that game.
Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
Thieves guild? You mean the highly predictable AI that dies in seconds and has a 180 second cooldown? The best thing they do is scare in a 1v1. Try not to mislead people into such lies.
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Thieves guild? You mean the highly predictable AI that dies in seconds and has a 180 second cooldown? The best thing they do is scare in a 1v1. Try not to mislead people into such lies.
And now the truth comes out…almost every profession would rather have 4 utilities than an elite. This has nothing to do with eles, thieves, engis, or guards but rather with how crappy and lackluster elites are in the first place
Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
lmao i just died….. the only time thief guild is any good if you are trying to solo champion… it is horrendous for pvp, wvw and in speed runs in pve
Supply drop and thieves guild are two of the best elites in the game. Try to be considerate to others and not post on this forum if you’re just going to mislead people.
lmao i just died….. the only time thief guild is any good if you are trying to solo champion… it is horrendous for pvp, wvw and in speed runs in pve
? Thieves guild has been the reason I’ve lost to thieves in many 1v1, that elite forces you to either waste a dodge or get force fed bullets.
What I have to say about elites is that some of them are useful in certain circumstances. However, there are plenty of circumstances in which I’d prefer to have a fourth utility skill, instead. From GW to GW2, elites went from the cornerstone of one’s build to being an occasionally useful skill.
What I have to say about elites is that some of them are useful in certain circumstances. However, there are plenty of circumstances in which I’d prefer to have a fourth utility skill, instead.
That’s GW2 elites in a nutshell, really.
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What I have to say about elites is that some of them are useful in certain circumstances. However, there are plenty of circumstances in which I’d prefer to have a fourth utility skill, instead. From GW to GW2, elites went from the cornerstone of one’s build to being an occasionally useful skill.
I always liked the idea to turn all elite skills into signets. Make a power, condition, def and utility elite for every class. Passive mode just gives a bonus to the stat and active is something that helps that kind of build. Right now elites are either completly useless or trivalize specific situations.
I fail to see the wisdom of making elites compulsory. It reduces the available depth/diversity of the game for no upside. They weren’t compulsory in the first game either, despite being on the whole more more powerful in GW1.
it is sad that they nerfed both FGS and tornado, the elemental was are already sub-par.
earth ele has its tanky moments in dungeons, but the rest are pretty “meh”
the only real use for ele elites was “MeteorNado” or Fiery Rush.
however, since eles can now pretty much PERMABLIND i think it makes up for it
And now the truth comes out…almost every profession would rather have 4 utilities than an elite. This has nothing to do with eles, thieves, engis, or guards but rather with how crappy and lackluster elites are in the first place
actually, my ranger likes it elites… their kinda good, and getting better next FP
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
