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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

Hello ANet,

could you review the skill glue shot?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glue_Shot

The travel time is so slow, it is unuseable for chasing people. That’s ok because it is designed that way.
But it is also too slow in close combat because every opponent is able to dodge it (and because dodge range is 300 they dodge complete out of this). The small radius and the short immob time does not stop the opponents from chasing me. The effect is too bad.

1 sec of immob (only on impact) and 1 sec cripple on a 30 sec timer, 240 radius, 700 range and very very slow moving projectile makes it one of the worst #5 abilities in the game.

I do not want a new pin down or something overpowered. But Pistol #1 is already one of the worst autoattacks. Pistol #5 is one of the worst high cooldown abilities. That’s too much for p/p in my point of view.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

It’s much more useful than you’re currently able to utilize it, trust me. But I agree that it is quite under-tuned, for the cooldown.

Cool things I do with it: Glue Shot into Chill/Shrapnel Grenade. Glue Shot into Blowtorch.

It’s also strong when used simultaneously with Box of Nails. A very large deterrent to would be melee attackers. An AoE circle is inherently nice.

A really cool suggestion that’s been extremely popular would be for Glue Shot/Bomb grant Stability for Allies for the duration. Get it? The glue literally preventing friendly units from being blown around by sticking them in place. C wat they did ther?

As another suggestion, I would suggest it gets bumped up to a 2 second immobilize, base. And perhaps stack 2 seconds of cripple per second, base. (Instead of 1)

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Posted by: Pyroathiest.4168

Pyroathiest.4168

Yeah, in my (extremely limited) experience using glue shot, I’ve noticed that it actually functions really nicely as a zoning/area deterrent skill rather than something that actually secures kills. People don’t like walking through it, so you can toss it on chokes or on points to enhance pressure.

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

It’s much more useful than you’re currently able to utilize it, trust me. But I agree that it is quite under-tuned, for the cooldown.

Cool things I do with it: Glue Shot into Chill/Shrapnel Grenade. Glue Shot into Blowtorch.

It’s also strong when used simultaneously with Box of Nails. A very large deterrent to would be melee attackers. An AoE circle is inherently nice.

A really cool suggestion that’s been extremely popular would be for Glue Shot/Bomb grant Stability for Allies for the duration. Get it? The glue literally preventing friendly units from being blown around by sticking them in place. C wat they did ther?

As another suggestion, I would suggest it gets bumped up to a 2 second immobilize, base. And perhaps stack 2 seconds of cripple per second, base. (Instead of 1)

I play your build and watch your streams so I see what you do with it but unfortunately english is not my native language. What does glue shot into blowtorch mean? Glue shot has a very long travel time and same activation time as blowtorch so blowtorch is over before the glue shot impact.

Same for chill grenade. I do not get the cool things.

I like your suggestions. I do not want a new pin down.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

It’s much more useful than you’re currently able to utilize it, trust me. But I agree that it is quite under-tuned, for the cooldown.

Cool things I do with it: Glue Shot into Chill/Shrapnel Grenade. Glue Shot into Blowtorch.

It’s also strong when used simultaneously with Box of Nails. A very large deterrent to would be melee attackers. An AoE circle is inherently nice.

A really cool suggestion that’s been extremely popular would be for Glue Shot/Bomb grant Stability for Allies for the duration. Get it? The glue literally preventing friendly units from being blown around by sticking them in place. C wat they did ther?

As another suggestion, I would suggest it gets bumped up to a 2 second immobilize, base. And perhaps stack 2 seconds of cripple per second, base. (Instead of 1)

I play your build and watch your streams so I see what you do with it but unfortunately english is not my native language. What does glue shot into blowtorch mean? Glue shot has a very long travel time and same activation time as blowtorch so blowtorch is over before the glue shot impact.

Same for chill grenade. I do not get the cool things.

I like your suggestions. I do not want a new pin down.

I am only suggesting you use the Glue Shot immobilize to allow a 100% certainty that a good ability won’t be dodged. 1.25s immobilize is enough!

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Posted by: Divus.3175

Divus.3175

Chaith, maybe it should work similar to mesmer’s temporal curtain, but with conditions. For example it could be 2 second immobilize on impact and then 2 second cripple but not stacking (if opponent already have cripple it wouldn’t put it on him again). I know there was a design decision to stack conditions in duration – immobilize, cripple, etc. But maybe, just maybe, this kind of skills have their place.

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

Temporal curtain seems to be much stronger in my point of view and has a lower cast time, no travel time and lower cooldown :/

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Posted by: Terrahero.9358

Terrahero.9358

I’d just tweak what it already does.

Faster travel time, bit longer range, slightly lower cooldown.

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Posted by: ellesee.8297

ellesee.8297

i think the stability suggestion would be a little op. i only really use it point blank because of the travel time and i try to use it after they’ve dodged. i always use it after i crate. if i land it it’s a guaranteed blowtorch. tasty burns.

i’m conflicted on increasing the immob duration. on one hand i’d like this underwhelming attack to be stronger. on the other i hate immob stacking so much i just want all immob abilities to be nerfed, even my own.

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