Guild Wars 2

Look im some player who enjoys pvp and 1vs1, the only reason i play spvp is to fight and kill players 1vs1 im always happy when some dude is running alone to point im standing on battling a fair and bloody fight man thats the spirit.
I /laugh at hambows but theres one warr build i seem to just cant stand up against and thats condi warr with swords and krait runes n all that kitten. See, normally when i die i look up ok what was that what did he do where did i fail ah took that shatter to the face need to look out next time get my eyes more on that pink guy or ok should dodge that and that or whatever but against this guys i dont even have a bloody idea.
That was not some outplay, no specific fail of mine nothing i see i can do better they just kittening kill me i literally have no chance. They melt me like im some ice in hot summer where do they pull that trillion stacks bleed from.
Even with years of applied chilling i dont seem to get their sword of my butt they do not cleanse it or anything they just dont kittening care. Im not even in range of their sword and then empathic bond ticks and i get my condis removad and im like thank god and then immediately here take some 5 stacks of bleeding and that bleeding ticks for some kittening damage and im like what where did that even come from.
And then they have the bow which is not that much of a problem, i dodge 5 sometimes 4 okok dont stand in f1 but heres some problem again they just do f1 on point and if i stand there i die so thats no cool idea so better step out, no? but that kittening field is bigger than whole point and they decap and we loose points, wtf is that 1 free decap for price of one skill? be fullbunker or loose cap?why is that field so big
Than they are so super tanky for me because pet is always dead and since warr ignores pet completely i suppose thats from empathic bond alone and pet is a huge part of my dps, i also in no way will engage them with sword in full melee where that cursed sword from them is just waiting for me but i need extra dogdes from time to time so thats dps loss again since i cant auto attack for like 8 seconds so im left with throwing axes in dem faces and thats not exactly king of damage right here.
If they get to catch me im dead in a matter of a second. that damage is insane, i have disadvantages against some necros or the occasional good engi but nothing comes even close to how this build destroys me and i feel kittening powerless because there literally is nothing i feel i can do.
Look this aint some rant about it being op or something im sure i just suck i just wanna know whats their weakness how can i counterplay them what is there important to know other than dodging sword f1,2,4 and bow 5
Please note im doing relatively fine against almost any other build so its not that my build just sucks or something like that

Whats their weakness? D/D eles

Condi clear, they don’t have a lot of access to cover condis so you can just repeatedly clear their bleed stacks. Might also try generosity.

Don’t stand in LB F1
Dodge LB #5
Don’t get caught in Sword F1
Dodge Sword 4, if you get hit, limit your movement til it stacks to 5 and cleanse.
Avoid Sword 5 counterattack.

Most condi warrs will have Bleed, Burn, Torment, Poison(sigil) and under some circumstances Confusion. And they can stack lots of all of them if you let them.

i demolish them with BM bunker.

taking purity and generosity runes gives you 2 conditions removed every 10 seconds (with decent crit chance) and since warriors will only really be doing burning and bleed then you should be able to keep the stacks from getting too high,

or if you’re a necro then let them stack their bleeds and then give them all back

The 2 things you absolutely need to be wary of are longbow #5 (pin-down) and sword f1. The windup on pin-down is quite obvious now, so that’s not much of an issue. As for flurry, if you see the warrior leap at you (sword #2) dodge roll/run away/evade (I have no idea what tools rangers have to work with), because that leap is 9/10 just a setup for landing flurry (which is where the huge bleed spikes come from).

Carpboy.7145:

Whats their weakness? D/D eles

Diamond skin eles

As stated above all of the condi War’s most damaging attacks are much easier to avoid than the majority of condition builds out there. Whether it’s Pin Down, Flurry, Impale, or Ripost they all have easy to read tells. What makes it good is that if you land all those big hitters the target has 1.5-2k Bleed ticks in addition to Burn damage and often times Poison from Doom sigils.

I’d be less worried about pure condi Wars these days, certain builds hard counter them. What I WOULD be worried about is more Warriors realizing how good Celestial gear is because I bet it would have enough power damage to break through Diamond Skin and other builds that are resilient to condi.

Celestial hybrid is weaker against high armor targets. Every build has a counter. As for pin down, some good warrior will cancel the pin down to force a dodge, so its not as easy to avoid as you think.

Thanks, sadly i cant really use another rune or sigil because then i basically could make the whole build new. Bow is not really a problem, i can dodge Pin Down from 4 races safely and F1 is easy to avoid but its still a problem that it forces me to get off the point and there is nothing i can think of i can do against it. In theory Sword is als not a problem, i know what i have to dodge, lightning reflexes is a good safenet against the sword f1 and if i avoid everything i shouldnt be put under such pressure. However always dodging everything if the fight goes on for a while is easier said than done and if only one thing hits me im already in a pinch, their conditions seem to do such more damage than from other condi builds i encounter. I also seem to get 3-5 stacks bleeding from only one hit of the auto attack alone, very weird. Not to mention the torment, poison blabla when they active the elite signet, is this effect dodgable?
Oh, this is the build im currently running by the way:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fjMqUua9Kusw1aAAhaVA0eGa2Ygd+2BfQBnOA-TZhBwAAOBAaOIA52fIyTAwbZAA

The 3-5 stacks from one auto could be a few things. The sword auto is actually really fast, and combined with an earth sigil and the 1 point minor trait in arms that applis a base 3sec bleed on crit (no ICD). They could also be using a sigil of geomancy. So the naturally fast attack speed of the sword combined with these sigils is probably whats happening

And there you have the problem with condi-builds.

They offer no counter-play, nothing you as an individual can do at any given moment to avoid them or beat them in any way.

Yes, you can alter your build and may have a better chance but ultimately your class mechanic, not your personal skill dictate if you beat a condi-build or not.

And that’s why conditions are so broken in this game.

Or you can just dodge the condi applications…

Popcornpasta.7605:

The 2 things you absolutely need to be wary of are longbow #5 (pin-down) and sword f1. The windup on pin-down is quite obvious now, so that’s not much of an issue. As for flurry, if you see the warrior leap at you (sword #2) dodge roll/run away/evade (I have no idea what tools rangers have to work with), because that leap is 9/10 just a setup for landing flurry (which is where the huge bleed spikes come from).

The leap is homing, so if you dodge they will still make their way to your location. What I do is let them hit me with savage leap but dodge right after that. Solves the immobilize though, not much to do against 8+ second auto attack bleeds which are usually mixed with cripple and/or immobilize from leg specialists and the occasional vulnerability.

Kibazuka.1390:

theres one warr build i seem to just cant stand up against and thats condi snip

Go condi or go home.