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Posted by: Eiland.1405

Eiland.1405

There are so many places that just call for a simple balance fix but the devs always seems to choose the other way…

You said you “rework almost all sigils” , then tell us why:

1. Why sigils with “on heal” skills have 10sec CD?
– the shortest heal possible is 12sec anyway
– it limits all these sigils for very certain builds that have a viable short CD heal skill (thievs, engies) making them stronger while making other builds weaker.

2. Why sigils “on elite” skills have 45sec CD?
– only 3 elite skills in the whole game have this short CD (or less).
Again making these builds stronger (warrior,necro , thief) while all others weaker.

These are just two example of thing that would’ve have been so easy to fix to achieve balance to all class and open up builds.

You trying so hard to say you want balance and build diversity while every step you make just does the exact opposite, it’s like you just want to keep things as they are to keep yourself from working.

Sorry dev team if this thread sounds offensive, but if the case is otherwise I would love for you the give any contrasting data to these facts

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Posted by: Prince.7198

Prince.7198

There are plenty of other very viable rune sets to choose from if your class does not have a low cd elite or heal skill!

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Posted by: Creld.8702

Creld.8702

10 second cooldown is originally because engineer’s medkit could be equipped and unequipped for instant rune procs. Ten seconds means the short heals are still able to proc the rune on CD while medkits not.

45 is for similar reasons, so the runes can be used on most elite’s cooldowns but cannot be used more than that.

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Posted by: Eiland.1405

Eiland.1405

Are you guys srs?

Of course other builds could use other sigils, but the point is
they have less choice!

And 45sec is very far from most elites CD:
Guard and mesmer shortest is 90sec, engi 105sec and ranger and ele is 120. Good math pal.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

There are so many places that just call for a simple balance fix but the devs always seems to choose the other way…

You said you “rework almost all sigils” , then tell us why:

1. Why sigils with “on heal” skills have 10sec CD?
– the shortest heal possible is 12sec anyway
– it limits all these sigils for very certain builds that have a viable short CD heal skill (thievs, engies) making them stronger while making other builds weaker.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Med_Kit

This has no cooldown.

5x Warrior, 5x Ranger, 4x Elementalist, 4x Engineer,
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant

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Posted by: Eiland.1405

Eiland.1405

It is amazing how every time I post here I end up regretting it.

The issue was NOT why put a CD at all on heal skill use, rather why is this CD so short.
Why do i even bother..

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

It is amazing how every time I post here I end up regretting it.

The issue was NOT why put a CD at all on heal skill use, rather why is this CD so short.
Why do i even bother..

simple it is for mantra of recovery and healing’s turret ability.

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Posted by: Killsmith.8169

Killsmith.8169

I think he’s advocating longer CD with a greater effect. That way builds with longer CD skills can make good use of them as well.

My thought would be to scale the effect based either on the CD of the triggering skill or how long it’s been since the triggering skill has been used. That would make things much more interesting.

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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

NinjaEd.3946

@OP, someone in another post made a very good point for this topic (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/When-you-activate-an-Elite-skill-UNFAIR).

Some rune sets proc on block, or heal while scaling off healing power, or increase condi durations even though some professions have rather low condi durations while others have high. It doesn’t mean we should nerf everything because some classes can use certain runes better. I mean we have a rune set that works off signet use, does that mean give engineer signets?

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break. I feel like they should be back by now..”

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

You said you “rework almost all sigils” , then tell us why:

1. Why sigils with “on heal” skills have 10sec CD?
– the shortest heal possible is 12sec anyway
– it limits all these sigils for very certain builds that have a viable short CD heal skill (thievs, engies) making them stronger while making other builds weaker.

2. Why sigils “on elite” skills have 45sec CD?
– only 3 elite skills in the whole game have this short CD (or less).
Again making these builds stronger (warrior,necro , thief) while all others weaker.

Mantra of recovery is faster than 15 seconds. You already know there are faster elites.

In general, since you can’t SEE the cooldown on these, they want it short enough it doesnt’ matter.

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“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.